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AIBU?

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School certificates. Aibu?

66 replies

Glorie · 27/10/2023 20:06

Aibu to feel like this? My DD is in reception and every Friday 3 children receive a certificate. Everyone had received one throughout this term and my DD and 2 others were today. Aibu to feel like they got one because they were last on the list. As in, the others in previous weeks were genuinely chosen and the last 3 were not because there was no others IFYSWIM. Just feel bad for DD as she’s tried so hard and has come on a lot in the 6 weeks since starting.

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everythingisgoingup · 27/10/2023 21:45

Really, really, really don't worry about it!

By the time they finish primary they could not care less & they will never remember.

It does not matter, do not make a big deal of it 😞

SarahAndQuack · 27/10/2023 21:45

cadburyegg · 27/10/2023 21:39

Jesus wept. If this is what you're worried about 6 weeks into your kid's school life, you're in for a shock.

Oh, be nice! I think parents are under a lot of pressure to worry, and sometimes it's hard to resist the feeling that you 'should' be making a fuss about something.

ToadOnTheHill · 27/10/2023 21:46

Genuinely, what is your preferred outcome?

  • she never gets a certificate as shes never in the top 3
  • you push her until she is
  • school stop giving certificates
-school stop giving certificates unless your child is in the first batch.

Seriously, stop whining. Kids like certificates. Are you not just happy she is happy and proud of herself?

arethereanyleftatall · 27/10/2023 21:50

Just think for a second. Fucking think.
Teachers. Are. Fed. Up. With. Parents.
The teaching bit is fine, the portion of dickheaded parents is not.
Teachers don't want to do it any more. And it ain't just cos of the salary.

arethereanyleftatall · 27/10/2023 21:53

Here's another way of addressing this - yes, let's face it, she did get it because she was last on the list. Rather than complain about teachers who can never win, why don't you think about why your dd was last on the list, and only got the award so that she didn't be one of the only ones left out. Is she behaving at school?

Mammyloveswine · 27/10/2023 22:24

I see op hasnt been back.. honestly I had this one year and it was so annoying with parents complaining!! The kids don't care nor are they affected by it!! They all get a turn!

Macaroni46 · 27/10/2023 22:43

arethereanyleftatall · 27/10/2023 21:50

Just think for a second. Fucking think.
Teachers. Are. Fed. Up. With. Parents.
The teaching bit is fine, the portion of dickheaded parents is not.
Teachers don't want to do it any more. And it ain't just cos of the salary.

You're so right. An extremely unkind and uncalled for comment from a parent at parents evening was the straw that broke the camel's back and helped me make the decision to leave the profession after 30 years. Have never looked back and feel physically sick at the thought of ever teaching in a school again.
Parents - your child is ONE of 30. Back off!

user1496146479 · 28/10/2023 10:25

Oh for gods sake!! Get over yourself!!
I would guarantee that all the children were just given certificates on the basis of a list!!
All lists have a start & finish!!

BoohooWoohoo · 28/10/2023 10:33

Yabvu
It's good that everybody got a certificate this half term. The fairest way to do it is to keep a list and make sure everybody gets their certificate. Your child's certificate isn't less meaningful because it arrived last and will hopefully made her very happy.
Some schools (like one that my kids went to) would often forget someone and not even give a certificate unless the parent asks later in the year. Many schools will have a system of giving some kids multiple certificates and none to others presumably because those teachers don't keep a record of who has received a certificate.

AllBlackEverything · 28/10/2023 10:34

TinyTom · 27/10/2023 21:10

Oh for pity's sake. We cannot win. We cannot bloody win and we are EXHAUSTED. Shame on you.

You know how OP has massively over reacted to the certificate thing? You have massively over reacted to OP. Get a grip.

MrsSkylerWhite · 28/10/2023 10:34

She won’t care, why should you? You need to toughen up.

TinyTom · 28/10/2023 15:12

AllBlackEverything · 28/10/2023 10:34

You know how OP has massively over reacted to the certificate thing? You have massively over reacted to OP. Get a grip.

My point exactly, literally exactly. When you deal with this all the time (aka are EXHAUSTED by it) you naturally become overly sensitive to entitled opinions like that of the op. Rationality goes out the window, you are instantly so triggered by it. So yes, if this was the first time I'd ever heard something like this then it would be a massive over reaction. But my sense of perspective and resilience, my 'grip' if you will, are being slowly eroded away.

zingally · 28/10/2023 15:54

Oh calm down.

Someone has to be last.

Your DD probably doesn't care either way. Just celebrate her "achievement" and move on.

DanceMumTaxi · 28/10/2023 16:10

Oh god, maybe no certificates or awards should ever be given in school. Teachers can’t do right for doing wrong. It’s only been a few weeks. My kids often get certificates later in the year. This is because they’re both really good, basically they’re ‘bankers’ and could be given one any week. They don’t have to be caught trying or being good or need chivvying along like some children do because they do it every day. Being later on isn’t necessarily a bad thing. You need to get over this. Just be pleased she got one.

Worriedmum86 · 28/10/2023 16:33

Omg ... Just wait until it's casting for nativity play in a few weeks time. That's a whole big bowl of "that's not fair"

You are going to get annoyed so much during your school journey so pick your battles wisely. If you go in and complain that your DC was given a certificate at the wrong time then you are instantly going to be labelled as "THAT parent"

LolaSmiles · 28/10/2023 16:48

Omg ... Just wait until it's casting for nativity play in a few weeks time. That's a whole big bowl of "that's not fair"
I'll have the popcorn ready for Nativity season.

We could start taking bets now:

  • AIBU that my child didn't get the part they wanted?
  • AIBU that my child, who didn't want a speaking part and gets painfully shy and hates public speaking, didn't get a big speaking part
  • AIBU to think it's awful that singing parts go to the children who should sing? Everyone should get a solo even if they have no pitch.
  • AIBU to think that Chicken 3 is a crap part and that somehow every child in a 3 form entry school should get a big part?
  • AIBU to think that teachers hate everyone other than their chosen few and those children will always get the main parts?
  • AIBU that my child auditioned, I know they're not very good at singing, didn't manage their expectations and I'm furious that the teacher hasn't given them a singing part?
  • AIBU to be annoyed that instead of a traditional nativity DCs school have done a Christmas show?
  • AIBU to be annoyed that we've been asked to get costumes and some yummy mummies are obviously going to show off their sewing skills.
  • AIBU that I only got to see DC's head from my seat in the hall. There were 20 other children on stage but I definitely should have been able to see more than my child's head!
  • AIBU to think that they shouldn't do the nativity during the school day because people can't attend?
  • AIBU to think they shouldn't do the nativity just after school because people have clubs and other children?
  • AIBU to think that they shouldn't do Nativity on an evening because it's too late for the children and not everyone can drive back to school?
  • AIBU to take photos of the performance even though it's on the website not to, and in the newsletter, and there's signs on the way in and the headteacher has stood up and reminded everyone to not take photos of the performance. I'm heartbroken that I can't have a picture of Timothy in his debut performance.
  • AIBU to think the PTA is a big conspiracy and all the PTA mums lobby the teachers to give their children the best part? This is totally unfair on those of us who haven't got time to do cake stalls and raffles.

That's a silly tangent, but I'm already predicting the threads.

Sunshineclouds11 · 28/10/2023 16:52

I wanted to cry when my son got his first sticker 😂 may be my pregnancy hormones.
But, enjoy her happiness with her.

Hellocatshome · 28/10/2023 16:54

This is such a non issue I dont even know where to begin. You need to let go of things like this and just say "oh wow well done DD you must have worked really hard" then move on. Or by the end of Primary School you are going to be a nervous wreck!

SouthernBel · 28/10/2023 17:03

LolaSmiles · 28/10/2023 16:48

Omg ... Just wait until it's casting for nativity play in a few weeks time. That's a whole big bowl of "that's not fair"
I'll have the popcorn ready for Nativity season.

We could start taking bets now:

  • AIBU that my child didn't get the part they wanted?
  • AIBU that my child, who didn't want a speaking part and gets painfully shy and hates public speaking, didn't get a big speaking part
  • AIBU to think it's awful that singing parts go to the children who should sing? Everyone should get a solo even if they have no pitch.
  • AIBU to think that Chicken 3 is a crap part and that somehow every child in a 3 form entry school should get a big part?
  • AIBU to think that teachers hate everyone other than their chosen few and those children will always get the main parts?
  • AIBU that my child auditioned, I know they're not very good at singing, didn't manage their expectations and I'm furious that the teacher hasn't given them a singing part?
  • AIBU to be annoyed that instead of a traditional nativity DCs school have done a Christmas show?
  • AIBU to be annoyed that we've been asked to get costumes and some yummy mummies are obviously going to show off their sewing skills.
  • AIBU that I only got to see DC's head from my seat in the hall. There were 20 other children on stage but I definitely should have been able to see more than my child's head!
  • AIBU to think that they shouldn't do the nativity during the school day because people can't attend?
  • AIBU to think they shouldn't do the nativity just after school because people have clubs and other children?
  • AIBU to think that they shouldn't do Nativity on an evening because it's too late for the children and not everyone can drive back to school?
  • AIBU to take photos of the performance even though it's on the website not to, and in the newsletter, and there's signs on the way in and the headteacher has stood up and reminded everyone to not take photos of the performance. I'm heartbroken that I can't have a picture of Timothy in his debut performance.
  • AIBU to think the PTA is a big conspiracy and all the PTA mums lobby the teachers to give their children the best part? This is totally unfair on those of us who haven't got time to do cake stalls and raffles.

That's a silly tangent, but I'm already predicting the threads.

Are you a teacher?? Honestly this is BANG ON! I feel so seen 🤣 I handed out the parts just before half term (our show is ludicrously early this year). Back at school tomorrow and I made the error of checking my inbox today - the barrage of complaints have already begun! Kill me!

LolaSmiles · 28/10/2023 17:09

Are you a teacher?? Honestly this is BANG ON! I feel so seen 🤣 I handed out the parts just before half term (our show is ludicrously early this year). Back at school tomorrow and I made the error of checking my inbox today - the barrage of complaints have already begun! Kill me!
Guilty as charged!

However I hope you realise that you are single handedly ruining dreams, crushing spirits, sucking the festive joy out of the season and ensuring that Timothy will never get his break on Broadway.

🍷

SouthernBel · 28/10/2023 17:19

LolaSmiles · 28/10/2023 17:09

Are you a teacher?? Honestly this is BANG ON! I feel so seen 🤣 I handed out the parts just before half term (our show is ludicrously early this year). Back at school tomorrow and I made the error of checking my inbox today - the barrage of complaints have already begun! Kill me!
Guilty as charged!

However I hope you realise that you are single handedly ruining dreams, crushing spirits, sucking the festive joy out of the season and ensuring that Timothy will never get his break on Broadway.

🍷

It's true, I'm a monster and children's tears and parent's vitriolic tirades are the only things that sustain me - why else would we do this job?

Solidarity, and wine ♥️🍷

( would it be going too far to post my dream response to them all on here?!

Dear Reasons That I Drink,

First, the airing of grievances. I gotta lotta problems with you people)

And so on...

PutWoodInHoleDuck · 28/10/2023 17:34

Realistically, many children could win it every week, so early on in the term you might choose someone who isn't going to be good every week. The fact your child was last suggests is a good thing - someone who can be trusted to do something or many things good in the final week. Kids, especially little ones, get very excited when they win and it would be a real shame to stop because parents are unhappy with whatever system teachers (who generally want the best for the children, even if it's not what you personally would choose) use.

MargaretThursday · 28/10/2023 17:47

LolaSmiles · 28/10/2023 16:48

Omg ... Just wait until it's casting for nativity play in a few weeks time. That's a whole big bowl of "that's not fair"
I'll have the popcorn ready for Nativity season.

We could start taking bets now:

  • AIBU that my child didn't get the part they wanted?
  • AIBU that my child, who didn't want a speaking part and gets painfully shy and hates public speaking, didn't get a big speaking part
  • AIBU to think it's awful that singing parts go to the children who should sing? Everyone should get a solo even if they have no pitch.
  • AIBU to think that Chicken 3 is a crap part and that somehow every child in a 3 form entry school should get a big part?
  • AIBU to think that teachers hate everyone other than their chosen few and those children will always get the main parts?
  • AIBU that my child auditioned, I know they're not very good at singing, didn't manage their expectations and I'm furious that the teacher hasn't given them a singing part?
  • AIBU to be annoyed that instead of a traditional nativity DCs school have done a Christmas show?
  • AIBU to be annoyed that we've been asked to get costumes and some yummy mummies are obviously going to show off their sewing skills.
  • AIBU that I only got to see DC's head from my seat in the hall. There were 20 other children on stage but I definitely should have been able to see more than my child's head!
  • AIBU to think that they shouldn't do the nativity during the school day because people can't attend?
  • AIBU to think they shouldn't do the nativity just after school because people have clubs and other children?
  • AIBU to think that they shouldn't do Nativity on an evening because it's too late for the children and not everyone can drive back to school?
  • AIBU to take photos of the performance even though it's on the website not to, and in the newsletter, and there's signs on the way in and the headteacher has stood up and reminded everyone to not take photos of the performance. I'm heartbroken that I can't have a picture of Timothy in his debut performance.
  • AIBU to think the PTA is a big conspiracy and all the PTA mums lobby the teachers to give their children the best part? This is totally unfair on those of us who haven't got time to do cake stalls and raffles.

That's a silly tangent, but I'm already predicting the threads.

🤣

You forgot the "I pulled my child out of all religious education but still think they should be Mary"
and
"Only PTA/governors/staff kids get main parts always ever at any school."

Worriedmum86 · 28/10/2023 20:31

My DC one year got a certificate for "doing an imaginative piece of homework".....then the next month a certificate for "a creative take on their homework" we we quite disappointed the month after when they didn't get another certificate for creative homework.

Anywherebuthere · 28/10/2023 20:37

Small world problems!
She probably did get it because she was last on the list. The others probably got it when they did because of where they were on the list.

It really doesnt matter. The certificate helps boost childrens confidence. You just have to tell them well done and how proud of them you are and move on.

Its not a big deal, nothing to be upset about.

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