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To not want to order via an app in a restaurant!

232 replies

TeaAndBrie · 25/10/2023 22:21

Visited a restaurant for brunch today, it wasn’t super fancy but £12 for eggs Benedict to give an idea of price.
we were told to sit anywhere that’s free and then use the QR code on the table to see the menu and order. I must’ve pulled a face as she said she would get a paper menu and that we could order at the counter.
surely part of eating out if the experience and the service and this is all part of what you pay for?

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Tigresswoods · 25/10/2023 22:40

Love this! Don't have to wait to order, just crack on & get exactly what you want.

gotomomo · 25/10/2023 22:40

Was it a "lounge" they have menus on the tables here then you order at the bar if you don't want to use the qr code but we find it's easier to do it all online

User3456 · 25/10/2023 22:41

I am in the prefer ordering on an app gang! Especially good for outdoor tables in summer.

TeaAndBrie · 25/10/2023 22:42

theleafandnotthetree · 25/10/2023 22:36

I hate it and pretty much all other attempts to force us to do businesses work for them. The end game is minimal pesky human staff to deal with/employ and at a societal level I think that is a disaster on multiple levels. Just this week alone I've had my blood pressure raised on at least 3 occasions. Once at Zara where in a large store on a Saturday afternoon they had one person on the tills for a queue of 25 people. The floor staff told me I could use the self service till, I told her I didn't wish to do so and clearly most other people feel the same way. I was spending 200 pounds and you can't spare me 2 minutes of staff time? Then had the stupid restaurant app thing - I'm a coeliac so not suitable at all. Then I stopped for diesel and had to do a whole palaver with my card before even starting to pump my diesel, many minutes wasted when I was going in to the forecourt shop anyway. It gives me the rage.

We were in a big city Zara a few days ago and the queue was ridiculous! I have never been in a Zara when the queue is less than 10 people long, they need to sort it out! Not helped by the fact she tried to substantially overcharge me and it was only when I added up the items in front of her several times she realised that the customer next to me had somehow had her items scanned into mine!

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Sunshineclouds11 · 25/10/2023 22:42

Tigresswoods · 25/10/2023 22:40

Love this! Don't have to wait to order, just crack on & get exactly what you want.

Same.

Less issues with wrong orders etc

gotomomo · 25/10/2023 22:43

@theleafandnotthetree

We are talking about a restaurant charging £12, how much "experience" do you get giving your order to someone earning minimum wage? The reason many cheaper places are using apps is to reduce wage cost thus keep prices as low as they can.

At an expensive restaurant fair enough you need the waiters advice

Drews · 25/10/2023 22:43

I don't mind ordering on the app as long as I can read on a full size paper version of the menu. I can't scan the full page on a tiny screen like you can on paper.

RudsyFarmer · 25/10/2023 22:43

My experience of apps is not being able to get a signal or the website hanging continuously. So I do dread those places abd we’ve been known to change our minds and find somewhere else to eat.

Somanycats · 25/10/2023 22:44

Another one here who much prefers it.

SkaneTos · 25/10/2023 22:46

I agree with you, OP.
All these apps everywhere, taking over my life.

SalviaDivinorum · 25/10/2023 22:47

Oh I hate it too.

The El Mexicana place at Swindon outlet centre requires you to order via the touch screen in front of the counter. My friend and I had to order sauces we didn't actually want as you need to complete every option before it will allow you to "submit". There is no way to skip them.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 25/10/2023 22:50

I don’t have a smart phone, so no dinner for me😳

theleafandnotthetree · 25/10/2023 22:50

gotomomo · 25/10/2023 22:43

@theleafandnotthetree

We are talking about a restaurant charging £12, how much "experience" do you get giving your order to someone earning minimum wage? The reason many cheaper places are using apps is to reduce wage cost thus keep prices as low as they can.

At an expensive restaurant fair enough you need the waiters advice

I just find it a very bleak and soulless experience. And people earning minimum wage are as likely to have engaging personalities and add to the atmosphere as anybody. Only tonight I was out in a town I don't know as I'm away on my own for work. Sitting there on my own, I enjoyed the few words with the waitress and felt just that little bit of connection with another human after a long day. OK, it was meaningless enough taken on its own but strip away ALL those opportunities for small moments of connection and added together, it makes for an even more atomised society than we already have. If anything, we need more, not fewer opportunities for social connection

OllieCollieWoo · 25/10/2023 22:51

In theory it's great.
Reality for us it is a nightmare as one of my children has a food allergy and a food intolerance.
Thankfully the place he most loves eating (the restaurant loves their App) are really great at assisting us in ordering. But thinking about it, if DS wasn't so into their food, I'd not bother as it is faff explaining and feeling we are being difficult for not using the App.

Woahtherehoney · 25/10/2023 22:52

Yep much prefer it here too! No waiting ages to order then getting “oh sorry we don’t have that” and then having to look at the menu again. No worrying about who’s paying for what, or being anxious about what you order, or having to wait ages and ages for the bill.

Surreyclaire · 25/10/2023 22:54

Won’t get involved usually don’t take phone out

Woahtherehoney · 25/10/2023 22:55

Just to add though I think it needs both.

my mum hates using an app to order and I prefer it so I think places should offer both options.

My job focuses on accessibility and I think both have their merits for different kinds of people. Ordering on an app is great for someone with anxiety, or someone deaf for example who struggles to hear or maybe even speak, it can also be great for people who struggle visually as their phone can read them the options. However I can also see how it isn’t great for other people.

1dayatatime · 25/10/2023 22:56

Tigresswoods · 25/10/2023 22:40

Love this! Don't have to wait to order, just crack on & get exactly what you want.

I get your logic if the objective of going to a restaurant is to get food in the most efficient manner possible and in which case why not go for pre ordering McDonalds on an app or even more efficient Deliveroo.

However if the objective is to get an actual restaurant experience then I can see OP point about having a physical menu and a real waiter / waitress to interact with.

Surreyclaire · 25/10/2023 22:57

Think it’s very sad that people prefer to look at a screen rather than engage with a person is why so many have social anxiety and can’t function in the real world

warriorofhopelessness · 25/10/2023 23:02

theleafandnotthetree · 25/10/2023 22:50

I just find it a very bleak and soulless experience. And people earning minimum wage are as likely to have engaging personalities and add to the atmosphere as anybody. Only tonight I was out in a town I don't know as I'm away on my own for work. Sitting there on my own, I enjoyed the few words with the waitress and felt just that little bit of connection with another human after a long day. OK, it was meaningless enough taken on its own but strip away ALL those opportunities for small moments of connection and added together, it makes for an even more atomised society than we already have. If anything, we need more, not fewer opportunities for social connection

Very well said.

CatChase · 25/10/2023 23:03

I've found so far that the places offering app ordering have always previously had you have to go up to the bar. So for me this is a lot easier and means I can spend more time at the table with others. Way less pressure and hassle

theleafandnotthetree · 25/10/2023 23:06

Surreyclaire · 25/10/2023 22:57

Think it’s very sad that people prefer to look at a screen rather than engage with a person is why so many have social anxiety and can’t function in the real world

Agree, it takes what most people consider to be some negative aspects of modern living - like increased levels of loneliness, disconnection, lack of contact between people from different social strata etc. - and reinforces and amplifies them. I get what's in it for businesses but doesn't mean we should happily go along with it. At the very least it should be a real choice (not a fake choice like my Zara example earlier). Surely even people who have social anxiety wouldn't necessarily want everyone else to head down that road too!

TeaAndBrie · 25/10/2023 23:10

theleafandnotthetree · 25/10/2023 22:50

I just find it a very bleak and soulless experience. And people earning minimum wage are as likely to have engaging personalities and add to the atmosphere as anybody. Only tonight I was out in a town I don't know as I'm away on my own for work. Sitting there on my own, I enjoyed the few words with the waitress and felt just that little bit of connection with another human after a long day. OK, it was meaningless enough taken on its own but strip away ALL those opportunities for small moments of connection and added together, it makes for an even more atomised society than we already have. If anything, we need more, not fewer opportunities for social connection

I definitely feel the same as you regarding this.
for some people having a chat with waiting staff could be their only human interaction that day.

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picturethispatsy · 25/10/2023 23:10

Ugh hate it.
Why do SO many businesses these days want the customer to do all the hard work 😭
If it’s not your bank it’s the supermarket or a restaurant. It’s gives me rage. Just do the work for me!! Stop outsourcing your work to me. I have my own job!

Tiredalwaystired · 25/10/2023 23:10

Terrible for those with allergies as there is no one to ask. Also makes it difficult to adapt orders (no ketchup for example) and as others have said, difficult to use voucher codes, gift vouchers or cash (the latter being a real challenge when a group of teens want to go out to eat together as invariably only a few have cards and end up having to pay for the others - not a biggie when you’re an adult but it stresses them out when they’re learning how things work)

Bring back the humans!

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