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AIBU to not like inanimate objects being called 'she'?

125 replies

LylaLee · 25/10/2023 12:10

I'm not on a campaign or anything, but this is just something that annoys me and I came to ask if IABU to find it jarring/grating.

I know that historically ships get called 'she' and that already annoyed me.

But now I'm seeing it everywhere. On YouTube someone gets a new belt: 'she's going to look great'.

On Instagram, someone's sewn a dress = 'she fits really well.'

Someone gets a wig: 'she looks really natural'.

It's almost as if 'female = an item to serve/be used/passively be of service'.

Oh, you say, they're just being playful and whimsical, anthropomorphising the object.

But they are never, ever, ever called 'he'. I've never heard it.

AIBU?

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Cattenberg · 25/10/2023 12:37

Apart from Hetty, of course. We can tell she’s a girl as she’s pink and has eyelashes.

autumn1610 · 25/10/2023 12:38

I call all my houseplants he. No idea why but I have done for ages

mindutopia · 25/10/2023 12:42

I personally can't save I've experienced this, beyond the obvious examples. We have lots of household items/cars/machinery that have names and they are equally male and female.

In the context of social media/vlogging, etc. in terms of fashion, if that is where you are seeing this, is it because the content creators are women? Because while I am not personally one to ever show off my belt or handbag or whatever on IG, if I did, and I was going to assign them a gender, because I'm a woman, it would be 'she' because it seems creepy frankly to have a belt or a shirt or a handbag called 'Richard' or 'Bob'.

PickAChew · 25/10/2023 12:45

All my sewing machines have been "she" apart from the one that was a piece of crap.

HakunaMatiłda · 25/10/2023 12:48

I think you should start a petition to rename Mother Nature to father nature.

LylaLee · 25/10/2023 13:19

Ifailed · 25/10/2023 12:28

I think it's a hang-over from when nouns used to have a gender, as they still do in French, for an example.

It seems more of a new thing. As PP said, more from reality TV.

And on YouTube I've noticed it with clothes and wigs.

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user14699084664 · 25/10/2023 13:30

My robot hoover is Male, Cyril. I love him!

8lue8irds · 25/10/2023 13:31

This has driven me mad since I was a kid, I just never got why, and for some reason it just grinds my gears.

DreadingTheSalon · 25/10/2023 13:31

OP, never, ever learn a foreign language. French or German will blow your mind!

Drinagh · 25/10/2023 13:31

Ponoka7 · 25/10/2023 12:14

It was done as a good luck thing. When you think about it, your vessel and how she handled the waves etc, kept you alive. From the internet
"Ships were seen as lifelines, providing sustenance, security, and the means to explore distant lands. By referring to boats as female, sailors believed they were connecting with the nurturing and protective roles traditionally associated with women."

It was a great compliment. My Dad was Merchant Navy and it was a sign of respect.

What a lot of misogynistic, essentialising bollockology.

Ships, cars, countries etc are all 'it' to me.

ManchesterLu · 25/10/2023 13:42

CalistoNoSolo · 25/10/2023 12:13

My upstairs robot hoover is male. I've never assigned genders to clothes, that's just weird.

Mine is a Henry, so obviously I treat him like part of the family.

Other than that, yeah, it'd be weird.

1990thatsme · 25/10/2023 13:46

I’m not sure I understand why gendering nouns annoys you.

Did you not learn French at school?

MammaTill2Pojkar · 25/10/2023 13:49

Peridot1 · 25/10/2023 12:15

I lived in Somerset for a few years and everything was called ‘he’!

This ^

I'm from Somerset, all inanimate objects are referred to as 'he' except maybe vehicles. I still call everything 'he'.

Yabu.

Neriah · 25/10/2023 13:49

With the exception of the Naval comment, I have lietrally never seen this anywhere, never mind seeing it everywhere. Perhaps you should stay off social media for a bit?

Readytoplay · 25/10/2023 13:51

I’ve just asked Alexa what gender they are: ‘as an AI, I don not have a gender’. I then asked what Alexas pronouns are: As an AI I do not have a preference’. She will be referred as a them, seeing as he is not bothered. 😂😂

LylaLee · 25/10/2023 14:04

HakunaMatiłda · 25/10/2023 12:48

I think you should start a petition to rename Mother Nature to father nature.

Well, there's already Father time, so there's a balance - the two most powerful forces.

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VikingLady · 25/10/2023 14:08

I name almost every expensive or important item. I had a very debonair umbrella once with gold coloured fittings that I called Oscar, afterOscar Wilde.

Our cars are always male because they're so grumpy, especially in bad weather, and you have to pamper them to get any flaming work out of them, and they seem to look for excuses to avoid jobs they dislike. I should probably watch that around DS.... in our house female items tend to be the better looking items that you can rely on, like my stand mixer.

KnickerlessParsons · 25/10/2023 14:18

Peridot1 · 25/10/2023 12:15

I lived in Somerset for a few years and everything was called ‘he’!

Same in Wilts. Lots of older people say things like "there he be" when they're talking about an inanimate object.

LylaLee · 25/10/2023 14:20

DreadingTheSalon · 25/10/2023 13:31

OP, never, ever learn a foreign language. French or German will blow your mind!

I am familiar with gendered languages and speak more than one. I'm talking about a recent YouTube/Instagram trend.

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TenderChicken · 25/10/2023 14:21

It annoys me as well. Growing up it seemed to be used mostly for objects men were obsessing over, like cars and boats. Definitely always held an air of female objectification to me.

Surreyclaire · 25/10/2023 14:21

Could not care less

LylaLee · 25/10/2023 14:25

1990thatsme · 25/10/2023 13:46

I’m not sure I understand why gendering nouns annoys you.

Did you not learn French at school?

Any femininity ascribed to 'la piscine' does not correspond to the way YouTubers are using it.

And the YouTubes don't give every single object they refer to a gender. Only the wig.

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shardash · 25/10/2023 14:26

Cattenberg · 25/10/2023 12:34

I’m more bothered by all animals being referred to as “he”. When DD referred to a bee on a flower as “he”, I pointed out that she was almost certainly a “she”. It might seem pedantic, but I don’t like the way that males are seen as the default.

It bothers me far more when people describe their pet animal as 'it' rather than 'he' or 'she'. I was talking to a friend at a hobby group about cats recently, and she described her cat as 'it' throughout the conversation. Very odd.

amicissimma · 25/10/2023 14:34

There weren't many laughs available during Covid, but I did find it amusing that the Institut Francais got in a tangle over whether Covid was masculine - le virus, or feminine - la maladie (disease), being Coronavirus disease.

1990thatsme · 25/10/2023 14:40

LylaLee · 25/10/2023 14:25

Any femininity ascribed to 'la piscine' does not correspond to the way YouTubers are using it.

And the YouTubes don't give every single object they refer to a gender. Only the wig.

Thanks for explaining, I can see why I wouldn't understand it, as I don't really bother with instagram or youtube.