To counterfeit my daughters Christmas presents?

[Wazzitnow]

OK, so she's into some obscure person ATM. Shes autistic and her people of interest changes bi yearly.

Right now it's this person who has a clothing range that is only available in the USA and is crazy expensive. $100 for a hoodie "$40 for a Tshirt type thing.

She's never seen his merch in real life and it's really cheap iron on kind of stuff.

And his inside label tag is very simple.

I have a printing machine and could very easily forge the items and make the label for inside the collar too.

I don't want to spend that much money on some obscure Tshirt with 1 word on just for the label.

But in true autistic teen style this is all she wants.

I'd get charged import fees too.

It's unlikely she would ever know because ei doubt she will ever come across a real piece of merch from him

And the style he has along with the label he has means it would be super easy to make and there would really be no way for her to know.

I wouldn't be selling them obviously. Just a few items, couple of Tshirts and a hoodie for her.

Would be around £35 quid instead of £200+!

And I know she won't be into him by summer either which makes me even more reluctant.

My kids are autistic and I would never go to such lengths to dupe them out of something they really wanted. It’s cruel.

If you don’t want to buy the t shirt, just don’t buy the t shirt.

Quelle surprise. Some people just can’t help but see the worst in autistic kids no matter what.

I make my autistic child stuff for her current obsession, thers very little out there to buy. There will probably be some next year as a movie just got confirmed It's fan art rather than direct copies. Maybe you can improve on the stuff? Most of these 'merch' sellers don't bother getting quality stuff.

I agree with what you're saying, but from what op is saying, these aren't quality items that is this person's main income.
it sounds more like a high up YouTuber and their side biz of cheap merc with their logo or other people quotes on it

So with that in mind I agree with op, do it

When I was a teen there were a few popular clothing items with brand names printed on them, a certain type of jeans that everyone was wearing and a coat. Not everyone could afford the originals so their parents would buy them the knock offs from the market, some were quite good and others were obviously fakes. I had the ones that were obviously fake and got bullied for it.

Anyway, if you are 100% sure she wouldn’t notice the difference then I would go ahead and do it. Either that or you explain that she can only have one item because of the crazy prices. Both my dc have autism and go through hyper fixations, at the moment eldest loves Taylor swift and recently spent a fortune on a Taylor swift Cardigan (swifties will understand) and she would totally know if it wasn’t an original even though none of her friends have said cardigan.

How old is she?
Imagine other people her age pointing out that she’s wearing fake items. If she’s very young, i’d do it but if she’s tween/teen, i wouldn’t.

Also not sure why her being autistic is relevant here.

Is it Supreme clothing? How old is your daughter? Trouble other kids will be able to tell and she will get the Micky taken out of her.

oh my lord…to all the people saying you’re being deceitful and lying, i’m guessing santa and the tooth fairy never visits your house?

Absolutely do it…by the sounds of it she will be far more upset to not receive a tshirt that the very small chance of finding out it’s fake - even though OP has said there’s no way she will find out as she very obviously knows her daughter better than anyone

Do it! Do it! Do it! I completely get this! My kids are very obsessive and things are short lived. They’re good kids and NEVER ask for anything so when they do I really want to get it for them. Cost doesn’t matter as I know they will pine for it until they get it. If I can give them what they want for a small price and do it myself I 100% would. Actually would mean more as it’s time iv spent doing it. The trends are in and out so much I feel bad for mums and dads.

Also not sure why her being autistic is relevant here.

Because autistic people almost always notice the smallest details that neurotypical people don’t. They have intense special interests and learn everything about it. They have a strong sense of fairness and justice.

So can you see why giving this kid a fake t shirt might blow up in the OP’s face in more ways than one?

Shes not selling it, I would agree 100% if she was asking about a business plan selling counterfeit goods.

It depends on you really.

I couldn’t do it. I’m too honest and every time I saw them wearing it I’d feel guilty. Either bite the bullet and pay full price or explain to her it’s simply too expensive.

I couldn’t watch the joy of opening the present without thinking that I was deceiving the child and it would spoil the whole thing.

My son has ASD and he’d know as well. I couldn’t imagine the fallout if he found out after the fact.

Maybe tell her your budget is £× and so if she wants to get a part time job you can go halves with her on it as you know it is what she wants, but is outside your budget. If she REALLY wants it, she'll do this. Like you say, if she's coming to end of this current phase, she'll not bother.

I did this with my son who begged for an electric guitar, having tried and quit almost every other instrument and CBA to practice. Didnt want a job either. But once we found the guitar he wanted...found himself a job and each payday I'd match what he put by until 'we' had enough then we bought it together. 14 is old enough to deliver papers, walk peoples dogs, wash the neighbouts cars etc. He made a flyer for odd jobs like this and also delivered the free papers once a month. It's much more work than faking it, but he still plays guitar 6 years later...

I just don't think it's worth the risk. If you're caught, then she might never trust you again. Plus you have to be absolutely certain there's not extras in the merch that genuine supporters receives (like a signed photo or thank you card from the creator). She might catch on straight away (which is probably better than another fan working out she's wearing fake merch and assuming she's lying).

I wish you were my mum when I was a teenager. I love my mum, but she never made me a t-shirt for my special interests, though it was in the nineties so not as easy I guess!

I think this is horrible. What happens if other people tell her it is fake? She wouldn't trust you ever again.

How would other people know?

why do people think their input is so significant and important that they can't even take the time to read the OP before posting?

I get this. I've got a special interest kid too. Though sadly they don't change as often as bi annually.
The thing is, you get to choose what you give as a gift. It matters not whether it's the actual thing they wanted, especially if they may be none the wiser. But do consider the fallout if you get caught out. It could get...tedious.

If you're designing a single word hoodie and selling em for $60.. a) you're not a designer and b) your a leach

I wouldn't personally, just for the fact that it would be a lie. I couldn't handle seeing my kid getting all excited and elated while I've actually fooled her and make her believe that she's receiving a real one. I'd either ask family members to chip in a tenner and we'd all get her a real piece, or I'd try and explain why it's not possible for you to pay that much (which is completely fair). I'm saying that, but I have no experience of having a child with autism, so this is only my personal view and what I'd do/wouldn't do for my own daughter.

So on mumsnet never lie to your kid unless your kid is autistic?

No. Respect your child.

My mom used to make us clothes and fancy dresses, it was so fun. BUT we knew she made them and never lied pretending they were a piece of trendy, fancy clothing we were dreaming of.

OP, why not make the piece of clothing in the style of the real piece AND tell your daughter you made it yourself coz you know she loves them so much but they are unaffordable. To me, that would be an amazing present and done with so much love (without the lie).

This is what I’d do. I think tricking her is really unfair and patronising. Just explain why not, and get her to look for something similar you can buy in UK. She needs to learn she can’t just have everything she asks for.

Hi to be honest I wouldn't lie to your child, your her mum she wouldn't expect you to lie and she trusts you if you lie she would think different of you even if she found out later that she was cheated out of the real deal, I would talk to her that the merch is expensive and maybe put a jar aside and help her to save,I have children that are very expensive and no matter how long it takes to save in the end they get the real thing,I haven't got to feel guilty and I have there trust that I will not lie to them.