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To recline my seat in the airplane tonight ?

330 replies

Redeyeflight · 23/10/2023 12:52

We are flying from Boston and Dh told me I’m not allowed to recline my seat on our night flight ? We are on economy and flying with BA. I don’t fly often so not sure about the etiquette. I mean if it was a day flight I wouldn’t recline but a night one ? Everyone would want to ?

OP posts:
rainbowunicorn · 23/10/2023 16:48

saffronsoup · 23/10/2023 14:15

On one flight I was on recently - the person in front of me was fully reclined and in order for me to get up to use the bathroom / stretch, I had to pull on their seat back to get leverage to move. I am sure they didn't really enjoy that as I get up a lot due to heath issues but that is the price you pay for your seat being on my lap when I need to get out.

Or you could just have said excuse me would you mind putting the seat up for a min while I pop to the loo.
Just as you would ask someone to let you out at the cinema, theatre on a train etc.

gotomomo · 23/10/2023 16:55

Of course you can but don't recline until after meal service is complete

Burnoutwhat · 23/10/2023 16:57

I recently flew to Mexico City a back via the USA. We had a night flight and a day flight (but would he been night at destination) both flights had lights dimmed after meal early on in the flight and everyone reclined. I personally wouldn't do it for but will if somone does so next to me or in front of me. So I reckon you're fine and it will be everyone reclining.

gotomomo · 23/10/2023 16:58

@Mamai90

Remember some people may have just got off a night flight not have had enough sleep. Seats recline, they would stop them if you weren't meant to use them.

I'll be honest though, we always book premium economy for long haul now

Quartz2208 · 23/10/2023 17:03

gotomomo · 23/10/2023 16:58

@Mamai90

Remember some people may have just got off a night flight not have had enough sleep. Seats recline, they would stop them if you weren't meant to use them.

I'll be honest though, we always book premium economy for long haul now

For flights under 4 hours they pretty much have - they are now pre reclined at a slight angle.

suspect May for longer flights as can fit more in

saffronsoup · 23/10/2023 17:05

rainbowunicorn · 23/10/2023 16:48

Or you could just have said excuse me would you mind putting the seat up for a min while I pop to the loo.
Just as you would ask someone to let you out at the cinema, theatre on a train etc.

It isnt really possible to just say excuse me to someone sleeping in front of you. In a theatre or train, you are speaking to someone beside you. On a plane, with a seat reclined, unless I yelled or poked them in the head, there isn't an easy way to communicate.

InsomniacA · 23/10/2023 17:06

Jet0301 · 23/10/2023 15:36

I’m a very frequent long haul flyer, and have been for many years on many different airlines - hence the 99.9% positive comment. That’s like saying you can’t chose the fish option on the menu because the smell may upset other people? It’s completely ridiculous and if it was honestly that bad the airlines simply wouldn’t allow it. Its not
up to each individual flyer to be concerned with the persons comfort behind them. As said previously, your chair reclines about 2 inches - it doesn’t end up in the person behind you’s lap

No, it is actually not 'like saying you can't chose [sic] the fish option on the menu because the smell may upset other people'. Life is a bit more nuanced than this and you do not fully understand the applications or implications of your own analogy. If you are in a restaurant, then of course it is fine to choose the fish option, BUT it is not fine to choose the fish option and then carry it onto the tube to eat there because, while it is technically 'allowed' to do so, it is not the socially considerate thing to do. In the same way, it is fine to recline your seat at night when this is what the majority of people do, but not fine to do so in the day, which is a context in which this is not the socially expected or accepted behaviour.

I do not believe you are a 'very frequent long haul flyer' or you would be well aware that the majority of people do not recline on day or short haul flights. I can fully believe that there are plenty of day recliners on the short haul trips to Benidorm or Magaluf or similar, though.

InsomniacA · 23/10/2023 17:08

saffronsoup · 23/10/2023 17:05

It isnt really possible to just say excuse me to someone sleeping in front of you. In a theatre or train, you are speaking to someone beside you. On a plane, with a seat reclined, unless I yelled or poked them in the head, there isn't an easy way to communicate.

Really? You can't easily communicate with the person in front of you unless you 'yelled' or 'poked them in the head'?

saffronsoup · 23/10/2023 17:15

InsomniacA · 23/10/2023 17:08

Really? You can't easily communicate with the person in front of you unless you 'yelled' or 'poked them in the head'?

Yes, I travel a lot, An excuse me in a normal tone of voice doesn't work on a plane for someone asleep in front of you where you can't see them or talk to them. Completely different from someone sitting beside you. How would you get the attention of someone asleep on a seat in front of you on a plane?

FamBae · 23/10/2023 17:31

Dwappy · 23/10/2023 13:18

Why is it only selfish during the day? I don't sleep on planes (im terrified and uncomfortable most of the time) so if they person in front of me reclines I'd be doing exactly the same thing at night as I would in the day time. Watching film or reading etc. So why are they apparently selfish for disturbing my TV watching during the day but not at night? (I don't think it's selfish at all and despite being quite tall I don't care if someone reclines in front of me. I just recline myself and have the same space again).

You are entitled to your opinion as am I.

InsomniacA · 23/10/2023 17:38

saffronsoup · 23/10/2023 17:15

Yes, I travel a lot, An excuse me in a normal tone of voice doesn't work on a plane for someone asleep in front of you where you can't see them or talk to them. Completely different from someone sitting beside you. How would you get the attention of someone asleep on a seat in front of you on a plane?

I would gently touch their shoulder and say something. I wouldn't 'poke them in the head' or 'yell', and haven't ever needed to do that. I fly long-haul regularly and recently had to wake up the person next to me because they were sleeping with their head on my shoulder and had pulled my blanket over themselves in their sleep. The touch on the shoulder and speaking to them worked with no need to yell or poke them in the head.

For what it's worth, I would never poke someone in the head. I can't imagine a context in which you would think that OK.

Jet0301 · 23/10/2023 17:54

InsomniacA · 23/10/2023 17:06

No, it is actually not 'like saying you can't chose [sic] the fish option on the menu because the smell may upset other people'. Life is a bit more nuanced than this and you do not fully understand the applications or implications of your own analogy. If you are in a restaurant, then of course it is fine to choose the fish option, BUT it is not fine to choose the fish option and then carry it onto the tube to eat there because, while it is technically 'allowed' to do so, it is not the socially considerate thing to do. In the same way, it is fine to recline your seat at night when this is what the majority of people do, but not fine to do so in the day, which is a context in which this is not the socially expected or accepted behaviour.

I do not believe you are a 'very frequent long haul flyer' or you would be well aware that the majority of people do not recline on day or short haul flights. I can fully believe that there are plenty of day recliners on the short haul trips to Benidorm or Magaluf or similar, though.

I think you need a lie down lol

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 23/10/2023 18:05

IBlinkThereforeIAm · 23/10/2023 16:33

So whose comfort wins? Is the person behind more important?

During a daytime flight people are not just using the tray to eat. Some are working. Others are doing games or activities on them with DC. Ir watching films on the screen on the back of your headrest, depending on airline. So yes, reclining your seat on a daytime flight and leaving someone unable to use the small amount of space they have is utterly selfish, when it's totally unnecessary and the only disadvantage to you from not doing so is you need to sit upright just like you would on a car or train journey. It is pretty shocking anybody thinks doing this - except late a night when everybody will be sleeping - is ok.

If you are working on a flight, your employer should have paid for business class for you. Economy seats are not designed for use as a flying office.

saffronsoup · 23/10/2023 18:11

InsomniacA · 23/10/2023 17:38

I would gently touch their shoulder and say something. I wouldn't 'poke them in the head' or 'yell', and haven't ever needed to do that. I fly long-haul regularly and recently had to wake up the person next to me because they were sleeping with their head on my shoulder and had pulled my blanket over themselves in their sleep. The touch on the shoulder and speaking to them worked with no need to yell or poke them in the head.

For what it's worth, I would never poke someone in the head. I can't imagine a context in which you would think that OK.

Waking up the person next to you is completely different from waking up the person in front of you. I have no access to their shoulder from my seat. They won't hear me speaking in a normal voice on a plane if they are asleep in front of me.

Anyways, I am not that concerned - I don't yell or poke their head. I just use their seat for leverage to get up and get out of my seat. If that wakes them- oh well.

Lovelyautumncolours · 23/10/2023 19:14

amusedbush · 23/10/2023 14:43

If you know which model of plane you'll be flying on, BA has seating charts for its fleet and it also tells you which seats have moveable arm rests Smile

https://www.britishairways.com/en-gb/information/about-ba/fleet-facts

I did not know this existed, I will look it up thanks so much!😊

ElaineMBenes · 23/10/2023 19:41

If you are working on a flight, your employer should have paid for business class for you.

Hahaha I'm sure you'd all be really understanding of me using your kids university tuition fees on business class flights. 😂😂

Supernova23 · 23/10/2023 20:07

Fine on a night flight after the meal. 95% of people will do the same, and I’ll tell the person behind me before I do. Never during a day flight or anything short haul.

notimagain · 23/10/2023 20:33

@Redeyeflight

"We are flying from Boston and Dh told me I’m not allowed to recline my seat on our night flight ?"

If the seat reclines then day or night you're entitled to use the facility, but it's nice if you can take other peoples needs into consideration, especially during meal service.

@gotomomo

Remember some people may have just got off a night flight not have had enough sleep.

Absolutely correct...or maybe even no sleep at all and that couple of hours on a subsequent short haul sector is a chance to catch up...not uncommon on airlines like BA where passengers may have connected sectors and there would certainly be eyebrows raised if people were told they couldn't recline the seats because it was day time.

Maddy70 · 23/10/2023 23:02

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 23/10/2023 18:05

If you are working on a flight, your employer should have paid for business class for you. Economy seats are not designed for use as a flying office.

Never have my work paid for business. .....economy every rime !

tiutinkerbell · 24/10/2023 07:25

I recline my seat on every flight, I just put it up for meals. I travel long-haul in economy every few weeks and would not love having to sit up uncomfortably constantly.

FarEast · 24/10/2023 07:26

Ditto @Maddy70 - most UK universities won't pay for Business, as they're basically not allowed to by various bits of legislation etc. I sometimes use my own money to upgrade a flight to Premium Economy, although for anything less than 8 hours, it's not really worth it.

I think a lot of posters have very little knowledge of the conditions of publicly employed people, such as university staff and civil servants. We get next to no perks (see the thread about per diem allowances for meals on this). I suspect a lot of posters don't travel for work, and have a bit of a fantasy idea about the conditions & arrangements for those of us who do.

WaltzingWaters · 24/10/2023 07:30

Absolutely fine OP. Especially on a night flight. Just make sure it’s up when food comes around.

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 24/10/2023 07:43

I had it once were the person in front of me for the full flight (other than 19 mins for their food) but they were so heavy that it went back even further than it should. It was practically on my knees and uncomfortable , I couldn’t see the tv screen and they refused to unreclaimed for the food until theirs came despite being asked by the flight attendant multiple times. My food came earlier as it was a special request but the tray couldn’t come down so i had to wait almost half an hour to eat it.

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 24/10/2023 07:45

rainbowunicorn · 23/10/2023 16:48

Or you could just have said excuse me would you mind putting the seat up for a min while I pop to the loo.
Just as you would ask someone to let you out at the cinema, theatre on a train etc.

You can ask but that doesn’t mean they will, I am talking from experience here.

ElaineMBenes · 24/10/2023 08:36

I suspect a lot of posters don't travel for work, and have a bit of a fantasy idea about the conditions & arrangements for those of us who do.

Most definitely.
I work for a university and my international trips often involve multiple countries in one trip with an ever changing itinerary which means I am often updating presentations at airports or on flights.
I've never flown anything other than economy unless I've paid to upgrade to premium economy myself.