Stopped on a double yellow

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DS usually walks to school. Today it was chucking it down, so I drove him. Stopped briefly on double yellows outside the school. NOT on the zigzags. No kerb markings or other signs. As far as I know it's fine to stop (not park) on a double yellow, to let passengers out.

Was there 30 seconds. Stopped, DS got out, I left.

As I was pulling back out, man on bike shouts through my window "Do you know it's f*ing double yellows?". I reply "Yes thank you, I was letting a passenger out". He swears at me again and cycles off.

I'm not doing any thing wrong, am I?

I wasn't certain of the rules tbh until I read the thread, laughing at folk being mean to you and it turns out you were right and they were wrong. Anyway regardless of the rules the man shouldn't have yelled at you, that's horrible and distressing. Surely any kind person would understand you not wanting to send your son into school drenched? I see so many comments about entitled parents re: school parking but we have a responsibility to get our kids to school on time and not soaked. Lots of us don't qualify for the school bus. It can be so hard to find somewhere to drop off outside schools and what were you meant to do, keep driving round and round until your son's late and then that's your fault? Park further away and he goes into class in sodden clothes and then you're a shit neglectful Mum for that? I'd say even if it had been strictly speaking against the rules stopping for 30 seconds to let your son jump out of the car was the sensible thing to do. Sometimes no matter what we do people will say it's the wrong thing and judge, most people are so unkind it always confuses me.

Did you pull out on the cyclist?

Seems Google gives lots of contradictory advice but the government highway code says no you shouldn't.

The sheer amount of ignorance on this thread is staggering. What's worse is that people are champing at the bit to lambast the OP while displaying their ignorance.

The difference between single and double is whether it's time-restricted or at any time. Yellow means no waiting, red means no stopping. You can stop on yellow, and even load/unload (unless there are perpendicular yellow markings).

That cyclist was a wanker. Unfortunately pretty much par fir the course.

I can 100% confirm you were most definitely doing something wrong 🙄🙄. I'm at a loss as to how some people pass thier test.

Sorry but YABU

whilst you are able to stop for passengers to get out etc, you shouldn't near a school. You can drop off further away and let the child walk.

we seem to need to drive to every destination these days let children either walk or cycle to school it won't hurt them, will it???

Bit rude realOP. when you cycle you get used to having your life threatened and having to watch out for drivers who don’t see you/don’t think/care so sometimes we will lash out when we have been wronged. It’s very intimidating being so vulnerable on busy roads. You think it’s bad with a metal tin to protect you, try being on a bike!

I can 100% confirm you were most definitely doing something wrong 🙄🙄. I'm at a loss as to how some people pass thier test.

How did YOU pass your test? You’re wrong BTW.

Have you actually passed your test 🙄?

There’s always going to be people complaining whatever you do, right or wrong. My children’s school has double yellows with no waiting on them and several emails backing this up. They’ve even installed bollards and people still pull up to drop off, pick up and wait, blocking the traffic for everyone else. My children’s precious school was on an estate with little mini car parks all over. No restrictions on parking but I’d always get a mouth ful off a woman who says I took her space and then aggressively parked her passenger door up to my drivers door to make a point. We kept getting emails from school about respecting the neighbours and parking respectfully but as long as no one is blocking a dropped lorn or a parked car on a drive without a blocked kerb them it’s a free for all. Or school car park has a road out to a slip road as it’s onto a dual carriageway. Again double yellows are there with no parking or waiting signs but people ignore them. I hate driving my kids to and from school. They are generally made to walk unless it’s tipping it down, but those are the days that re busiest and it’s a spite gridlock.

It’s all gone a bit airplane 😂

Genuinely interested where people have read that it's acceptable to stop on double yellow lines? My understanding is unless you have a blue badge or there is a sign stating operating hours for the lines, then it is strictly no stopping. The government website/highway code state 'Double yellow lines indicate a prohibition of waiting at any time even if there are no upright signs. You MUST NOT wait or park, or stop to set down and pick up passengers'.

And yet from a council website…

definitely red zone/ white zone!!! 😂

Genuinely interested where people have read that it's acceptable to stop on double yellow lines? My understanding is unless you have a blue badge or there is a sign stating operating hours for the lines, then it is strictly no stopping. The government website/highway code state 'Double yellow lines indicate a prohibition of waiting at any time even if there are no upright signs. You MUST NOT wait or park, or stop to set down and pick up passengers'.

That sounds like the rules for double red lines.

You missed the end of the quote, it changes the meaning somewhat:

You MUST NOT wait or park, or stop to set down and pick up passengers, on school entrance markings (see ‘Road markings’) when upright signs indicate a prohibition of stopping.

I hate seeing parents parked up on double yellows outside school for ages OP but stopping briefly to let a passenger out is OK. People are being very rude to you on here tbh but it is mumsnet after all so...

You can stop on double yellows to drop a passenger off or pick someone up, or to load or unload goods.
Another cyclist who doesn't know the rules

As you were outside a school, YES you did wrong

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Rule 238
You MUST NOT wait or park on yellow lines during the times of operation shown on nearby time plates (or zone entry signs if in a Controlled Parking Zone) – see ‘Traffic signs’ and ‘Road markings’. Double yellow lines indicate a prohibition of waiting at any time even if there are no upright signs. You MUST NOT wait or park, or stop to set down and pick up passengers, on school entrance markings (see ‘Road markings’) when upright signs indicate a prohibition of stoppin

OP said they stopped on double yellows and not the school zig zags so your rule 238 means nothing

Chlorofthemask, rain coats are designed to stop the wearer getting wet, useful in the rain

Oh FFS! Of course you were in the wrong. A cyclist told you so!

If a cyclist speaks you’d better listen.

Wretched drivers and the law. On what basis is being obviously right a reason for doubting shouty people on push-bikes?

I've met a fair few shouty drivers in my time

Are you ok?
You seem very angry

Yeah, I’m fine. Are you angry?

Funny how any unsupportive comments about cyclists brings out the passive-aggressive, or just aggressive, reactions of cyclists.

I’m a motorist, cyclist and pedestrian.

I’m not sure I’m the one being aggressive here tbh, and would say your comment was more than just unsupportive.