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To be really annoyed by this at Sainsbury's

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dcsp · 11/10/2023 11:42

I was at a large branch of Sainsbury's yesterday evening. None of the staffed checkouts were open, so I went to the self-checkouts. On the way out of them they have fitted gates which don't open until you scan your receipt.

If there was a person barring my exit from a shop until I showed them my receipt, I'd feel insulted by what was effectively an accusation of theft. Having a machine perform the same role felt similarly insulting.

I appreciate that retail theft has increased, but treating every one of your customers as if they're a thief until they prove otherwise is not the right thing to do! (also I expect most theft at self-checkouts happens by people who do still check something out therefore have a receipt).

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FloweryName · 11/10/2023 12:04

They’ve asked for receipts on exit at Costco for as long as I can remember and I’ve never taken it as an insult.

Be insulted if they pick on you for a check when everyone else can just go, but it’s clearly not personal when they’re checking everyone.

dcsp · 11/10/2023 12:05

Sunplant · 11/10/2023 11:52

It wouldn't bother me I have noticed it in a few shops.
They have to do something to try and reduce their losses.

They could have more staff! Sainsburys made a profit of £327M, from that they could pay more staff.

Or they could open the barrier by using facial recognition to see if the person approaching the barrier has just used one of the self-checkouts (which all have individual cameras on them) - if it doesn't appear to be someone who's just used a checkout, then that would at least give them reasonable grounds to check a receipt

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Coffeerum · 11/10/2023 12:05

If there was a person barring my exit from a shop until I showed them my receipt, I'd feel insulted by what was effectively an accusation of theft. Having a machine perform the same role felt similarly insulting.

Hardly when the same is applied to everyone. What a drama over nothing.

fieldsatnightfall · 11/10/2023 12:05

2PintsOfCidernaBagofCrisps · 11/10/2023 11:49

This is a post I seen online the other day and very much agree with:
(copied and pasted below)

Dear Tesco, Asda, Sainsbury's, Lid, Aldi, Waitrose, Morrisons, and all other stores that have self checkout.

You are heading towards almost exclusively self-checkout now.

The lady checking receipts at the exit was stopping
everyone (interchange for barriers!)

I didn't choose to participate in that nonsense, I had already

🛒 filled my cart
🛒 emptied my cart
🛒 scanned the items
🛒refilled my cart

and so I just skipped the exit line and left.

I heard her saying "umm - Excuse me " as I kept walking and raised the receipt above my head, leaving the store.

You can either trust me to do self-checkout, or you can put your cashiers back in place like it used to be.

I'm not interested in proving that I did your job for you.

• If you want me to be a cashier with no training then that's vour problem not mine.

• Keep employing young people and give them job opportunities.

YOU DON'T PAY ME TO SCAN MY OWN SHOPPING.

YOU DON'T GIVE ME STAFF DISCOUNT FOR WORKING FOR YOU.

Signed ....All of us

These are jobs that are needed to have for young and old

So you think making it harder for someone who's trying to do the job they've been told to do? A supermarket worker on minimum wage. Well done, slow clap for you.

Dramatic · 11/10/2023 12:06

It's not an insult to you, they're not specifically targeting you 🤦

VisionsOfSplendour · 11/10/2023 12:07

You need to start a protest group with the similarly offended shoppers who think Aldi shopping bag checks are some kind of person affront

It's not all about you

Fink · 11/10/2023 12:07

I find it annoying because there isn't the choice to have a staffed check out. If I had chosen to use self-scan and then there were a barrier, I wouldn't mind as much. But if I wanted to use an actual check out with a human being and they don't provide that, then I do feel that it's a bit rich to put up a load of extra computer-based security. Just employ people to do it!

tenbob · 11/10/2023 12:08

DH and I went to a French petrol station where there was a barrier at the exit and you have to scan your receipt to prove you have paid for your fuel before leaving

It struck me at the time as a pretty sensible measure, but I will now retrospectively get insulted and offended that the French fuel industry thinks I’m a thief

Bournetilly · 11/10/2023 12:08

It doesn’t bother me but you are probably right most people who steal from the self service still buy something (otherwise why would they bother going to the tills) so abit pointless.

dcsp · 11/10/2023 12:08

lemonraincoat · 11/10/2023 12:01

I don't understand how it helps. How does it stop anyone shoplifting if that's what they do? You are just waving a bit of paper.

To be fair, it's not any bit of paper, but a barcoded receipt.

But I read something ages ago which said the most common method of stealing at SCOs was to register expensive things as cheap weighed vegetables. That would still give the thief a receipt.

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Blathermoa · 11/10/2023 12:09

It doesn't bother me if I've bought something and have a receipt, but I had issues getting out of a Sainsbury's recently when I hadn't bought anything. No security guard or staff around, so I just had to push through the barrier, which didn't go off or anything.

DappledThings · 11/10/2023 12:09

I'll find it annoying when they bring this in in my local store because I generally don't take a receipt. But insulting? No, that's very silly.

dcsp · 11/10/2023 12:09

Coffeerum · 11/10/2023 12:05

If there was a person barring my exit from a shop until I showed them my receipt, I'd feel insulted by what was effectively an accusation of theft. Having a machine perform the same role felt similarly insulting.

Hardly when the same is applied to everyone. What a drama over nothing.

If they barred everyone from exiting, including me, then I'd be equally insulted.

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Glitterblue · 11/10/2023 12:09

I would never feel insulted by something that wasn’t personally aimed at me! They need to do something to stop shoplifting - to me it’s no different from putting your ticket into the barrier in a station or showing your ticket on the train.

Crikeyalmighty · 11/10/2023 12:12

This was common practice when we lived in Copenhagen. If shoplifting is on the rise it's important it's monitored as it raises prices for all

Costalife · 11/10/2023 12:12

I genuinely can't understand why people get annoyed about things like this
Scan a receipt and leave. Complete non issue

AuntieMarys · 11/10/2023 12:13

You're being ridiculous

goingtotown · 11/10/2023 12:14

SM4713 · 11/10/2023 11:56

You felt insulted!!! 🙄

Our new Morrisons have the barriers too- but they open automatically. You've clearly never been a costco have you? Aldi now check your empty bags too- does that insult you also?

What if you choose NOT to print a receipt though? What happens then?

Self Scan checkouts print the receipt automatically, no option for no receipt.

SauronsArsehole · 11/10/2023 12:15

What’s insulting is sainsburys and other supermarkets making record profits but being too cheap to hire real staff on a FT basis and making the gig economy significantly worse.

MrsSkylerWhite · 11/10/2023 12:15

Or they could open the barrier by using facial recognition to see if the person approaching the barrier has just used one of the self-checkouts (which all have individual cameras on them) - if it doesn't appear to be someone who's just used a checkout, then that would at least give them reasonable grounds to check a receipt

Lots of shoplifters put some things through the checkout to get a receipt.

IHopeYouStepOnALegPiece · 11/10/2023 12:16

Crikeyalmighty · 11/10/2023 12:12

This was common practice when we lived in Copenhagen. If shoplifting is on the rise it's important it's monitored as it raises prices for all

Yep was going to say it’s incredibly popular here in Copenhagen, and shoplifting has reduced. They stop people legging it out the door, they do spot checks and are v good at scanning a receipt and quickly jutdgibg wether that looks accurate with the Shiloh g bag size. It works and I cannot for a second be bothered to be offended by somthing like this

Mistressanne · 11/10/2023 12:16

tenbob · 11/10/2023 12:08

DH and I went to a French petrol station where there was a barrier at the exit and you have to scan your receipt to prove you have paid for your fuel before leaving

It struck me at the time as a pretty sensible measure, but I will now retrospectively get insulted and offended that the French fuel industry thinks I’m a thief

The french think everyone is a thief.
You routinely have to show them empty carriers at the till and they won’t let you return to the shop with your shopping bags if you’ve forgotten something, customer service take them from you.
Jean Valjean still wouldn’t get away with stealing a loaf 200 years later.

Hellendegenerate · 11/10/2023 12:16

OP
I would be ok with this. What annoys me to boiling point is witnessing and it's happened countless times, people running out of stores with whatever they can cram in their jackets and even worse trollyfulls of unpaid for items. I know many shoplifters are caught but the majority get away with it.

😞😬

dcsp · 11/10/2023 12:17

user1497207191 · 11/10/2023 11:49

Do you get annoyed when you have to put your ticket in the gate at train or tube stations?

Do you get annoyed when staff scan your ticket at attractions, events, etc?

You need to chill out. Precautions ARE needed to prevent people from shoplifting, travelling without tickets, entering attractions without paying, etc etc. It's NOT personal!

No, because that's how train stations and ticketed attractions have always worked for as long as I can remember.

Shops, on the other hand don't generally work on the assumption that shoppers need to prove they're not thieves. Checking people on exit where the shop have failed to remove a security tag is normal, checking every single person on exit is not.

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dcsp · 11/10/2023 12:18

MrsSkylerWhite · 11/10/2023 12:15

Or they could open the barrier by using facial recognition to see if the person approaching the barrier has just used one of the self-checkouts (which all have individual cameras on them) - if it doesn't appear to be someone who's just used a checkout, then that would at least give them reasonable grounds to check a receipt

Lots of shoplifters put some things through the checkout to get a receipt.

Yes, I've already pointed out that this new check which I really don't like won't even stop a lot of actual thieves!

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