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Partner's work "friend"

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LotusPetals · 07/10/2023 01:30

Hi all,

There's this woman my partner of two years works with, who he befriended at a work conference earlier this year.

Upon first meeting her, other colleagues and even his boss warned him to keep her at arms length, as she's been known to cause a bit of drama and trouble (apparently, she's the type to hook up with/have a fling with fellow male colleagues in order to further progress her career, and has even lied and said some of them have assaulted her after her advances had been rejected) anyway, according to my partner, she had been a bit too "friendly" with him in the past and I've also advised him to watch her closely because of this, and that if she tries anything, his best bet would be to cease contact with her- he's had to keep his distance at points, but recently, they attended the same conference together where he had to comfort and console her because she had just found out that the guy she was currently having a fling with, is in fact engaged. Of course, if she really didn't know he was already involved, then I feel bad for her, but have a sneaking suspicion she knew this already and was hoping he'd leave his fiancee for her or something, just from what I've heard about her, and recent events involving my partner, which I will explain below.

Apparently, she and her friends even questioned my partner on how he could be so committed to me and how he hasn't thought about cheating on me/hasn't cheated on me already (this alone was enough to shock me and make me feel disrespected, because why on Earth do they think they have the right to question my partner and our relationship in the first place?) Then he also disclosed to me, that a few days ago, she asked him to go with her to her brother's wedding, which would've been today, and is quite a way away from where my partner lives. He obviously said no, because even he thought it was a weird request and crossing a boundary or like she wanted to see if she could conquer him and get him in bed (his words) and I'm thankful he did that, but then I told him that he now needed to cut this woman off, unless it was for work, as it looks like she is trying to push the boundaries of their friendship and overstep with little regard, which is very disrespectful to me and our relationship, and I don't want him to potentially end up being another one of her male victims who loses his career by her lies.

At first, he couldn't see my point, and didn't want to purge her socially because he believes she is his "friend" (I say "friend" because someone who really is your friend wouldn't act the way she has, in my opinion) which upset me, despite me already outlining that this whole situation has made me uncomfortable, including her comments on his fidelity, the fact we'd spoken about this before and that if it came to it, he'd need to cut his losses, and that I'd feel completely disrespected if he were to continue on this path and allowing her the chance to try something a little shady again, even if he continues to shut her down (forgot to mention, I'm also 35 weeks pregnant with our little one, and this woman knows this) and that I also don't want her trying it on with him, and then trying to ruin his career for rejecting her.

He eventually understood and agreed to remove her off of all social media platforms and just to keep a professional relationship with her, but I could sense a tiny bit of begrudging. My question is, am I being unreasonable for telling him he can't continue to be socially involved with her, based on my reasonings/her behaviour, as his reaction wasn't what I was expecting at first, and would you be worried or feel the same if it were your partners response in the same or similar situation, or if you'd feel the same as me if someone had acted this way with your partner?

I guess I also needed to get this off my chest as I have never experienced something like this before, and am usually a confident woman, but right now I'm at my most vulnerable, quite hormonal, and I just feel so dirty, upset and disrespected by these events from her actions and his response, not only on my behalf, but also the behalf of our unborn baby - add the fact that if I hadn't raised a somewhat related issue, it's likely he would never have told me about this, unless maybe something similar happened again?
Now I'm not only fuming with her, but also questioning my partner a little bit? Not in a "is he cheating kinda way?" because I don't believe he is, but more of a "what are his true intentions/motivations kinda way?" as he has also disclosed to me in the past that he finds it quite flattering and ego boosting if women flirt with him, even though he says he'll happily turn them down and let them know he's not available. I'm starting to wonder a little if he's just really friendly and naive, or if there's potentially a little something more there, if you know what I mean?

I'm so very sorry this is very long winded, and if this seems a bit over the place, or I seem crazy, it's late, and on top of being tired and heavily pregnant, I'm also unwell, so am a bit all over the place and struggling to understand what's rational and what's not at the moment 😅 I also have trouble articulating sometimes. If you managed to make it to the end, thank you so much.

OP posts:
Hibiscrubbed · 07/10/2023 05:55

I'm also 35 weeks pregnant with our little one

Oh.

He’s lucked in with you, hasn’t he? He’s got you actually believing he’s some sort of innocent victim of this woman.

Despite everything, he wouldn’t end a really inappropriate ‘friendship’ that he made while with you. That is extremely telling. And it sounds like he was lying by omission about the whole thing anyway.

The fact that you’re about to have your baby makes this much, much worse.

ShadowsontheHill · 07/10/2023 06:15

He had to comfort and console her

No he didn’t and that’s all you need to know.

Plus all the my colleagues and boss said X about her, have you heard it from them or just him?

GRex · 07/10/2023 06:24

It all sounds very strange and gas-light-y. Whatever has been going on, I think you're getting versions of it and they aren't factual. Can you go back through your post and say where the info is from please? Seen for yourself, heard from him, heard by you from one friend, heard by you from lots of people. I think that would really help nail down which bits are true and that helps in considering what to do.

236Adf · 07/10/2023 06:26

Read Not Just Friends by Shirley Glass. Take heed of walls and windows.

Your senses are spot on. He’s not friendly and naive.

What woman asks a man to a wedding unless he has implied that would be acceptable or appropriate. He knows exactly what to do to get ego boosts.

why is your partner encouraging, enjoying and refusing to give up have smoke blown up his arse by this woman? Why is he using her need to shag him as external validation? Why does he see her as a ‘friend’?

You are pregnant and it’s harder to leave. He’s not a victim he is opening the door to her to receive ego kibbles and attention. Why does he need this? Why can’t he validate himself? His priority should be you and his baby. If he can’t cope without ego boosts now wait until the baby is here and sleepless nights and lack of attention makes him feel ‘unloved’.

Your partner is the issue here.

236Adf · 07/10/2023 06:29

Also Affairs start due to character defects - read ‘How to help my spouse heal from my affair’. Plus the other book I suggested- it explains how affairs begin. Your partner is on the road and his need for external validation (smoke up his arse) means he is a risk.

Legselevens · 07/10/2023 06:45

These ‘friends’ always seem to young attractive females don’t they? He would not behave like this with Joe Bloggs from accounts I’m sure. He is telling you who he is. Mention it is and character assassination to throw you off the scent. I am suspicious by nature unfortunately.

LolaSmiles · 07/10/2023 06:53

Your DH won't lose his career because of her. If he loses his career it will because of his actions and his choice to prioritise this friendship with this woman. Please don't fall into the trap of believing the "I'm great but this Sandra's got form, Sandra steals men..."

The mentionitis would have me suspicious, especially when it's all about how great he is and apparently how amazed they are that he's been faithful.

This breaks my heart:
as he has also disclosed to me in the past that he finds it quite flattering and ego boosting if women flirt with him, even though he says he'll happily turn them down and let them know he's not available.
It's his way of basically telling you he needs to be the centre of attention and have his ego boosted all the time.

Like other posters I'm a little suspicious because you're pregnant and are about to rightly be focusing attention on your newborn, so is sulky man going to feel put out?

DrinkingMyWaterMindingMyBiz · 07/10/2023 06:55

I wrote replies to this twice and then deleted before I pressed ‘post’ because I felt guilty, like I was potentially stirring things up, but having seen the replies since then I see that I’m not the only one who can see it for what it is!

I often notice that women with these kinds of “reputations” amongst men are not actually the vixens they’ve been made out to be, but perfectly normal women who happen to be physically attractive. Men make up these stories about them to cover their own backs and make themselves seem innocent. I can bet my arse that several men in the workplace have made passes at her that she’s rejected, and the ones who she has happened to reciprocate with have been blown out of proportion (either by the men themselves or jealous others), making her seem like the “office slut” (not a word I would usually use but you see my point here.)

Your gut is probably right - there’s more to this story than the one sided spiel your DP has given you. However, the only way you’ll ever know is by speaking to the woman yourself, and I doubt any good will come from that conversation.

Essentially, you have two options: take his word for it and move on, or go with your gut and leave him, going ahead with life as a single mum. Whichever option you choose has its flaws, but please know that you are not the problem in all of this, no matter how much you’re made to feel like you are. It’s not your hormones, your insecurity or an overactive imagination; it’s his behaviour.

LolaSmiles · 07/10/2023 07:15

DrinkingMyWaterMindingMyBiz
I did the same, then thought that the OP needs to know that it's not her and she's not unreasonable or emotional for feeling how she does.

I'd hate for a heavily pregnant woman to think she's got baby brain, feeling hormonal, being unreasonable when actually her partner, who should be looking after her and preparing for baby, is busy focusing on having his ego massaged.

luckysonofagun · 07/10/2023 07:49

You are definitely not being unreasonable in any way. But do ask yourself can you trust him and is he being honest with you?

aleC4 · 07/10/2023 07:52

About 8 years ago my husband had a 'work friend' who he had to help out with all manner of personal/practical problems.
They're getting married next year.
Be careful.

TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 07/10/2023 07:57

I don’t like the way the woman is characterised here. What a dangerous seductress she seems to be, luring all these hapless men into her trap and then ruining them by lying about their behaviour 🤔

Do you know how incredibly rare it is for women to lie about assault? Someone’s not being truthful in the stories you’re hearing, but I’m willing to bet it’s not her.

AgnesX · 07/10/2023 08:05

Hmmm. I think you're doing the right thing in having him remove her from all social media (bar LinkedIn if he's senior enough).

This isn't because she's a man eater, it's for him to be and stay professional. It cuts out the whose fault is it stuff right at the get-go.

Twofortheroad · 07/10/2023 08:09

‘question is, am I being unreasonable for telling him he can't continue to be socially involved with her’

Telling a grown adult anything is never a good idea and I can see why he did so begrudgingly- be much better if he came to that conclusion himself which he really should have.

This women is being portrayed badly but then to invite your husband to her brothers wedding (unless a group from work were going) is a massive red flag to me.

Many men are ego chasers and I’ll get slated for this but I quite like how open and honest he is with you about it. He’s clearly enjoying her attention, it’s not unusual but I’d be worried and hacked off with him and the situation too.

jeaux90 · 07/10/2023 08:11

It's really straightforward.

He needs to cut ties to protect himself!! This is the only message he needs to get right now.

I wouldn't be over explaining it with the way it makes you feel because he will have all sorts of reasons why you shouldn't feel like that.

But if you centre him, his career and reputation in the conversation then he might well get it and do something about it.

Nousernamesleftatall · 07/10/2023 08:14

has even lied and said some of them have assaulted her after her advances had been rejected

This is bs. Sorry this is bs.

DrinkingMyWaterMindingMyBiz · 07/10/2023 08:16

jeaux90 · 07/10/2023 08:11

It's really straightforward.

He needs to cut ties to protect himself!! This is the only message he needs to get right now.

I wouldn't be over explaining it with the way it makes you feel because he will have all sorts of reasons why you shouldn't feel like that.

But if you centre him, his career and reputation in the conversation then he might well get it and do something about it.

Protect himself from what? This temptress who lures all these unwilling men into her folds?

OP, protect yourself here. Whether that’s by making your feelings very clear and not allowing him to gaslight his way out of it so you can move on, or leaving him. But he definitely isn’t the one who needs protecting right now.

Aquamarine1029 · 07/10/2023 08:21

The only problem you have is with your bullshitting partner. He's playing you for a fool.

ohfook · 07/10/2023 08:29

I don't know. I'm sure there are a women somewhere who behave like you've described, but my first thought on reading your post was that your husband has done a cracking job in getting you to see her as the villain.

MorrisWallpaper · 07/10/2023 08:33

I’m with @TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross. I’m struggling to believe in the Evil Seductress straight from central casting.

Joeylove88 · 07/10/2023 08:33

Your partner is not an innocent party in this scenario as others have already said. Even if this woman behaved as he has described why on earth would you want to associate yourself with someone who has accused men of sexual assault for not sleeping with her...it does sound like BS. If she was a bad person he would of kept well away from the beginning but yes he's enjoying the attention and ego boost. You need to make your own boundaries very clear to him. You are about to have a baby together. No more fucking around so if you and this baby aren't his absolute priority then out the door you go asshole!

YouJustDoYou · 07/10/2023 08:35

He didn't "have" to do anything, he CHOSE to "comfort" her, she's not forcing him to do a single damn thing.

LightSpeeds · 07/10/2023 08:36

Well I'm really sorry that you're pregnant and now enmeshed in this relationship.

Your partner is treating you pretty despicably and it's not a good sign of things to come. Heavily pregnant partner at home but his mind seems to be on another woman.

Although you're not happy, you seem to be entirely blaming her but really this is all your partner's lies and bullshit.

Good luck because you're going to need it.

jeaux90 · 07/10/2023 08:39

@DrinkingMyWaterMindingMyBiz

Because a lot of men always minimise their behaviour and its impact on women.

Sometimes the only way to get through to them is by centering them.

Honestly if I was the OP I'd not be putting up with his shitty behaviour at all. I'd tell him to piss off and bring the child up on my own.

(Which I did, I'm lone parent by choice rather than put up with shit behaviour)

TammyJones · 07/10/2023 09:25

Where is the Op?
Beginning to wonder if this is real?

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