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Most traumatic Jacqueline Wilson book?

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Msblueskies · 05/10/2023 13:54

Lighthearted… those who grew up on JW books in the 90s and 2000s which book was the most traumatic for you?

In my early 30s now and I absolutely adored all my JW books. But looking back a lot of the content was pretty dark 😅 I think for me Dustin Baby wins the prize for darkest and most traumatic at all. I read it at age 10!

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Wrongsideofpennines · 06/10/2023 23:38

ShermansSherberts · 06/10/2023 23:28

@Wrongsideofpennines I think it was Ethel. After her great aunt "who was old and smelled of wee wee"

Ah yes, that was it. I may have just reserved it from the library to reread!

ShermansSherberts · 06/10/2023 23:46

@Wrongsideofpennines go for it! Nothing like a vintage JW on a chilly autumn night!

regularmumnotacoolmum · 06/10/2023 23:55

Reading this thread makes me want to read them again now. I loved the JW books whilst growing up and thought they touched on a lot of taboo issues. I'm not sure I'll feel the same about the books reading them as an adult.

yarnwitch · 07/10/2023 09:56

Bugger I've just bought Bad Girls for my 9 year old, I didn't check it as I thought Jacqueline Wilson books were aimed at her age. I wanted books about school and friendship issues, I didn't realise they were dark!

Beezknees · 07/10/2023 09:58

yarnwitch · 07/10/2023 09:56

Bugger I've just bought Bad Girls for my 9 year old, I didn't check it as I thought Jacqueline Wilson books were aimed at her age. I wanted books about school and friendship issues, I didn't realise they were dark!

Bad Girls isn't as dark as some of the others but one of the characters is a girl in foster care and her mum committed suicide which is mentioned in the book.

PurpleSoap · 07/10/2023 10:12

Most disturbing one for me was definitely My Sister Jodie. I was a voracious reader, had read a lot of Jacqueline Wilson books, but I remember being shocked at the ending!

Tracy Beaker makes me really sad as an adult. I don't think I quite grasped, as an 8yo, that her mother wasn't actually a movie star. And I wasn't too sympathetic to Tracy back then, especially not the TV version (which I don't think my DM was too keen on me watching)

However, I really liked Jacqueline Wilson's books because they didn't pull their punches. I was also a pretty sheltered child, so I think it was good for me. No lasting trauma here 😁

yarnwitch · 07/10/2023 10:32

@Beezknees thank you. I'll maybe have a chat about it with her. I'm glad I know about the others though, it will teach me to do more research!

Latenightreader · 07/10/2023 11:06

I found the tv version of The Illustrated Mum on YouTube last night! It is very well done but the ending seemed a bit rushed.

FourStringsNoWaiting · 07/10/2023 14:21

I'm so glad I found this thread! My mum saved all mine and my sister's JW books and gave them back to me a while ago so I could pass the family collection on to my daughters.

After about half an hour of searching I located the box in the garage and they're now all on display in the living room

Love Lessons to The Lottie Project is my collection, everything to the right of that belonged to my sister and I haven't read them yet so that's exciting!

My sister and I have managed to acquire two copies of Kiss and The Suitcase Kid - if anyone hasn't read them and would like to, I'm happy to pass them on

Most traumatic Jacqueline Wilson book?
Tumbleweed101 · 07/10/2023 15:00

I didn't read them so much myself but read Lily Alone that my daughter got one year as I thought she might be a bit young for it at the time. I think I cried with that one. When my daughter did read is she wasn't half as upset as me. I think you get a different view reading some books from an adult view point.

babysharkdoodoodedoodedoo · 07/10/2023 15:15

100% either Vicky Angel or The Illustrated Mum, as said before. I still think about both fairly often and I’m in my early thirties 😂

OMGTTC · 07/10/2023 16:12

FourStringsNoWaiting · 07/10/2023 14:21

I'm so glad I found this thread! My mum saved all mine and my sister's JW books and gave them back to me a while ago so I could pass the family collection on to my daughters.

After about half an hour of searching I located the box in the garage and they're now all on display in the living room

Love Lessons to The Lottie Project is my collection, everything to the right of that belonged to my sister and I haven't read them yet so that's exciting!

My sister and I have managed to acquire two copies of Kiss and The Suitcase Kid - if anyone hasn't read them and would like to, I'm happy to pass them on

I’d forgotten about Midnight! Is that the one with the (painted?) fairies? Sorry if someone’s already mentioned it here and I missed it!

Beezknees · 07/10/2023 17:04

I think I might borrow some of these from the library for a bit of nostalgia. I miss them!

BabyofMine · 07/10/2023 17:10

Wow! I’ve just realised something from this thread. I have an absolute ton of JW books from childhood and absolutely loved her, but I’m sure from this my Mum must have been carefully checking which of her books to buy me because I didn’t have any of the ones that sound really dodgy! The worst was probably The Suitcase Kid but I was from a divorced family and it really helped me process it tbh.

whenindoubtgotothelibrary · 07/10/2023 17:22

I don't love the later ones for younger readers, but Waiting for the Sky to Fall made a big impression on me as a teenager in the early 80s. Bits of it still come back to me even now - like when she chose a subtle blue material for her one annual summer dress, and her mum went to the market and bought yards of cheap fabric patterned with huge cabbage roses instead. I can feel the teenage frustration and injustice of it all, although 40 years later I have a better understanding of what might have been going on for the poor mother.

RandyAndTheRainbows · 08/10/2023 00:49

whenindoubtgotothelibrary · 07/10/2023 17:22

I don't love the later ones for younger readers, but Waiting for the Sky to Fall made a big impression on me as a teenager in the early 80s. Bits of it still come back to me even now - like when she chose a subtle blue material for her one annual summer dress, and her mum went to the market and bought yards of cheap fabric patterned with huge cabbage roses instead. I can feel the teenage frustration and injustice of it all, although 40 years later I have a better understanding of what might have been going on for the poor mother.

I loved that book and remember that bit about the fabric very well.

I think this is why Jacqueline Wilson is so popular, she is so brilliant at portraying teenage (or preteen in the case of many of her newer books) angst. Whether a child comes from a bad or a sheltered upbringing, those little bits of angst are relatable to most of us.

Luddite26 · 08/10/2023 10:30

As a mum of JW readers she used to pee me off for giving them ideas and not behaving /conforming to my word. That's meant in a light hearted way!
Being a child reading them and the adult is different perspectives

SnuggleBuggleBoo · 08/10/2023 10:35

The Illustrated Mum was my favourite. I re-read it sometimes. It's very tragic and moving, but ends on a more hopeful note than some of them though!

Did anyone ever read Midnight? That was just plain dark and disturbing!!

SnuggleBuggleBoo · 08/10/2023 10:38

I don't really approve of the JW ripping off classic books - Katy, 4 children and It, The Primrose Railway children etc. It's not really on!

RedHelenB · 08/10/2023 10:40

Msblueskies · 05/10/2023 13:54

Lighthearted… those who grew up on JW books in the 90s and 2000s which book was the most traumatic for you?

In my early 30s now and I absolutely adored all my JW books. But looking back a lot of the content was pretty dark 😅 I think for me Dustin Baby wins the prize for darkest and most traumatic at all. I read it at age 10!

My sister Jodie

BertieBotts · 08/10/2023 18:24

I used to love her books, I think I read the illustrated mum, Vicky angel and the suitcase kid plus the second Tracy Beaker the most because those were the ones I owned. But I used to get the others out of the library and read those too. I didn't find the illustrated mum scary or traumatic at the time. I think because it has a happy ending - they all sort of do, don't they? I probably just naively thought everything would get better. It's with an adult viewpoint you can "see" into the future and guess what life is like going forward for the characters.

I mostly read them from about 11-16 and tended to see them from the point of view of showing you what it was like to have a different life experience. I think they did help me have empathy and see a different perspective. I also think they do a really good job of illustrating that even when parents aren't ideal in terms of providing stability, security, financially, routine etc that a lot of the time that doesn't mean that the parent and child don't love each other. In fact, that can often be very strong. I think that's the most important message I got from the books really, and this is sometimes picked up on too, directly by the characters, like when Dolphin goes into foster care, and the foster mother washes her black witch dress because she thinks it's dirty and ragged, but Dolphin is devastated because it fades the black and it smells like washing powder, not its "magic witchy spell". And I think JW is very good at observing and illustrating this kind of thing, where adult concerns override what is really important to children. There were parts of Tracey Beaker that touched on this kind of thing as well. I think it was always clear why the characters act "bratty" but maybe that was me being that much older when I read the books to realise that.

The only one that really upset me was the Diamond girls, I remember being really shocked and upset by the force feeding scene, and I'd forgotten the nail cutting but yes, that as well. I found that one really really hard to read specifically because of the scenes with that neighbour.

Tracy Beaker the TV series was nothing like the books. But I think you couldn't really do a TV series about a children's home like in the book version of Tracey Beaker and have it be actually suitable for children. There are bits in the books where she just alludes to things where as an adult you fill in the blanks, but children wouldn't, and you couldn't show that on TV. I have no idea how realistic JW's portrayal of being in care is, but I suspect it's a bit out of date compared to when the books were released and certainly in comparison to today.

MargaretThursday · 08/10/2023 18:32

SnuggleBuggleBoo · 08/10/2023 10:38

I don't really approve of the JW ripping off classic books - Katy, 4 children and It, The Primrose Railway children etc. It's not really on!

I'm not sure it's really ripping off the classic books. She's reimagining them for the modern day, which is quite popular.

But I'm not really sure why she's doing it. I would have suggested someone doing that was trying to piggy back on the classics names to try and get better known, but she has no need to do that.

The one I really did feel irritated by is the sequel to "The faraway tree". I had a quick look and... oh dear.
She has not got Enid Blyton's imagination for the fantasy. I think the best she managed to come up with was "The land of unicorns". Compare that to the "land of goodies" with the inside of the flowers being jelly etc.
She also changed things, I thought not for the better. The original, the children's parents knew about the Faraway Tree and the children did their chores and asked to go. She had it a time slip (like Narnia) so the parents didn't know. Surely in today's world the parents knowing is better? And that's actually not in keeping with the original.
Then she uses it as a way of lecturing. Something along the lines of: (can't remember the new children's names so I will use the originals)
Mum: Betty, will you do the washing up?
Betty: You are only asking me because I'm a girl. Boys can do washing up too.
Jo: Don't worry I will do it because I'm a modern man...

If she wanted to break into Fantasy, then she's a big enough name to try it on her own stories, and people would buy it.

purpleme12 · 08/10/2023 18:38

Which is the book that says that Santa isn't real?

MankyMinge · 08/10/2023 18:39

SnuggleBuggleBoo · 08/10/2023 10:38

I don't really approve of the JW ripping off classic books - Katy, 4 children and It, The Primrose Railway children etc. It's not really on!

Yes I must admit I much prefer when she writes her own historical novels. I loved Opal Plumstead, Rose Rivers and Baby Love. Katy wasn't one of her better ones, it was too similar to the original Katy. It's like she ripped off the whole book but changed it to modern times. I hate when authors do this.

I didn't like Midnight much. But she has done some absolute gems and I consider her a favourite writer of mine.

DrinkingMyWaterMindingMyBiz · 08/10/2023 18:40

Dustin Baby and Vicky Angel were overtly sad, but having re-read The Bed and Breakfast Star and The Illustrated Mum as an adult, I see how sad they both were too. Even Tracy Beaker!

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