To want a cleaner that will pick my clothes up off the floor?

[Zamphina]

Dp and I work very long hours during the week. We’re out of the house 9-10 minimum. We eat dinner in the office. When we get home we’re exhausted and just want to sleep. So often the kitchen has our breakfast stuff. We’ve left clothes on the floor. There might be sunday’s dishes on the table. The laundry has been left out drying.

We earn an OK salary and have a tiny flat to save money, so a cleaner coming 2-3 times a week for two hours a time won’t be an issue.

But obviously I’m slightly embarrassed for someone to see my home in such a mess. Are there any cleaners who will sort all of this? Pick up the clothes, put them on to wash, load the dishwasher, and clean the bathroom etc?

I don’t see why not.
As long as you’re very clear from the start about what you expect.

If they don’t want to do it, they just won’t be the right person, but you’ll find the right one who likes organising as well as cleaning.

Sounds weird, but if I was a cleaner (I’m not), I would enjoy it, because of the end result/effect.

If you want to live like that your best bet is to move back in with your parents

OP, were yiu waited on hands an foot as a kid?Clothes are personal things. The role of a cleaner is to clean. Difficult if you leave clothes on the floor. Laundry bins serve that purpose.

l too work long hours, all the more reason to be tidy.

Pretty disgraceful sorry. Just don’t throw your clothes on the floor! Wasn’t sure if this was a wind up

I could tell you were young from the OP so I will give you the same advice my Mum gave me and I give my adult children. Laundry baskets and dishwashers exist for a reason. Just use them. And fold your laundry as soon as it's dry.

I'm a housekeeper and I wouldn't expect to pick clothes up from the floor.

Because you are a self-respecting adult who got up in time to do some adulting?

The OP mentions the previous night's dinner plates still sitting there a day later. How can two able bodied adults get up from a table and just leave it there?

This is a case of people having trouble transitioning from teenage/ student life into adulthood.

OP sounds like she spent her entire university life at home with mummy and daddy picking up after her the whole time or she really pissed off flatmates. How can anyone have lived away from home without grasping any basics of growing into an adult?

I can't understand any adult who has been brought up to think you can just pay to have someone to trail around after you picking up your stuff off the floor .

How were you both brought up?

Did you have cleaners or just parents who didn't expect you to do anything?

I don't understand how adults are leaving dirty clothes on the floor for days on end or just walking away from the dinner table leaving the dirty dishes there for who knows how long?

You say you're tired when you get home from work (which most people are) so don't do anything when you get home but do you not do any housework at the weekend either?

When I was a recent grad my house was similar if not worse, my mum had done everything for me and never taught me to keep a house, at uni I’d had a cleaner in my halls and my shared house was also a state. It’s totally normal to find housekeeping difficult at the point of life you are at.
people on here are being dickheads and I imagine they thought you were 40 or something rather than a very young adult just starting out without having been given the proper tools you need. This is obviously also your first full time job. Which also is very very difficult to adapt to, especially when it’s a job which is longer hours than any other full time job.
you will learn how to be tidier and keep things in order, but it’s a process and doesn’t happen overnight. I am certainly still learning myself at nearly 40 and with 2 kids. I still struggle at times and the house still slips at times. Im sorry you’re gettting such a hard time, adults don’t seem to remember what it was like to be 21 (possibly older depending on your degree) but you’ve had some real dickhead responses here and I for one definitely was in your position at that age. Learning to be an adult is actually really tough. People on here need a slap for being so unkind.
all of my cleaners have always tidied if necessary, clothes on the floor the used to just fold and put on the bed, I imagine they would have stuck the washer on if I’d asked them to.

Most students are very untidy because they are kids 😂 our student house was a shambles, no one was pissed off because we were all as bad as each other.
youre a bit of a bitch and have obviously forgotten how hard it is to learn how to be an adult when nobody has taught you.
is it necessary to be so nasty? To a young girl. She could literally be 21, does it feel nice to be so nasty!!!

YABU, a cleaners job is to clean, not to tidy before cleaning. If you want someone to do this then you need a housekeeper and cleaner. But, why can’t you and your husband put your dirty laundry in the laundry basket? Stick a wash on Sunday night, throw it in the dryer before you leave Monday, take it out and sort it Monday after work. When you finish dinner, clear and clean the dishes straight after. You’re both grown adults, there’s no reason you should be throwing your clothes around and leaving dirty plates around the house.

I have a cleaner who comes for 3 hours weekly, on a Wednesday. I work long days also, 8:30-21:30, so I’m gone from 7:30am-10:30pm 4 days weekly. When my cleaner arrives; I have already done all the small tasks (dishes, laundry, making beds, putting away clothes etc), and she then cleans (vacuums, mops, wipes all countertops down properly, dusts, cleans bathrooms and toilets). If I expected her to tidy before this, I would expect to pay more and for longer hours as it is not part of a cleaners job description to pick up after grown adults.

if you can both manage to hold down full time jobs, you can both manage to pick up after yourselves and make your house presentable enough for a cleaner to do their job.

You could get a housekeeper to tidy and clean, so you have no laundry or washing up to do, but dropping your clothes on the floor and leaving the plates at the table is just lazy, slobbish behaviour.

At the very least, a respectful /dignified employer will get the dishes to the sink and the clothes into the laundry basket. No one is too tired for that. And if you both are, you’re not going to do well in your chosen careers.

Does it feel nice to you calling someone a bitch?

Pot...kettle.

It's not hard to not drop clothes on the floor, it really isn't. Or take plates to the dishwasher instead of leaving them on a table to get crusty.

Nobody should need to be taught to not live like pigs. They are graduates so they have a decent level of intelligence. They have eyes so they can see the mess and know what needs to be done, they just can't be arsed to do it.

And stop referring to adults as 'kids' or 'young girls', they're adults.

And I had a disgusting lazy housemate at university who made everyone else's lives a misery, so no not most students are untidy. Just the lazy ones who don't give a shit.

You kinda lost the moral high ground @saffy2 with your giving people slaps and calling them bitches.

Being nasty to someone who is struggling and asking for help when you know that that person is young, makes you a bit of a bitch. That’s just fact. You’re being horrible to someone who is already down. I’m glad I’m not you.

I wasn't the one that you called a bitch bit carry on dishing out insults.

I'm sorry you're still learning how to be a grown up at almost 40 with 2 kids but stropping around calling people bitches and saying "I'm glad I'm not you" like you're in primary school is just making you look even more ridiculous.

Oh god you work such long hours how on earth can you spare a second to pick your clothes up off the floor. I am amazed you even found the free time to write this post....

The way you spoke to op was unnecessary. And nasty. It wouldn’t have hurt you or anyone else on this thread to be compassionate to her, a literal stranger who is finding things hard. Everyone learns from the beginning. And yeah the fact that you can’t see that and were so nasty to a stranger who is young who is struggling and who is asking for help, really really does make me glad I’m not you. I can’t imagine being so horrible that bringing strangers down when they are already at the bottom and asking for help is my go to response.
this whole thread is just a horrible read. It’s so unnecessary and just goes to show exactly what is wrong with the world. No wonder our schools are full of bullies, when their parents act like this on a thread responding to a young person struggling and asking for help. It’s shameful.

@saffy2 - do try to read everything. I haven't resorted to name calling.

😂😂😂😂😂😂 that’s your bench mark for being a nice person and not a bully. 🤦🏽‍♀️ no wonder there’s so many bullies around if they can’t even differentiate 🙄
you were unnecessarily nasty, along with others on this thread, to a young person struggling for absolutely no reason. It’s disgusting. And you should all be ashamed.

I agree saffy. This thread is turning into a complete pile on and deeply unpleasant.

I’ve worked these hours. As the OP says it’s 13 hours minimum and often longer - 1 am finishes are common and all nighters aren’t unknown. It’s a bit like having a newborn in terms of how tired you are and how little free time you have.

If a mum of a newborn posted on here about how she was struggling to keep the place tidy, she’d get sympathy (I like to think!) Instead of being called lazy and entitled.

Reporting the thread.

I feel so sorry for op, imagine at 21 being in amongst this gaggle of horrible older women. It’s disgusting.

Hi OP, if you’re willing to pay for a service and you communicate what you’d like done, I don’t see why not. A lot of cleaners won’t pick up clothes etc., but you just need to be clear. Ie, if it’s going to take someone an hour to tidy before cleaning, you should expect to pay them for that extra hour.