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Tell me it isn't normal for men to leave skidmarks in the loo for women to clean?

71 replies

thefuckingdisrespect · 28/09/2023 14:26

I can't quite believe I'm writing this, but I'm kind of freaked out that this happened.

Staying with friends recently. My friend's partner several times left shit marks down the loo - as in, when I used the bathroom later on, they were still there. My poor friend cleaned the loo at some point later that day on those occasions, I certainly was not going to.

Is this 'normal' for want of a better word? Do men really do this?

My partner is a woman. My male relatives do not do this. My grandpa used to do this and expect my grandma to clean it, he saw cleaning as women's work.

It seems really disrespectful to anyone else in the house if somebody does this? I can't believe a guy in his 40's thinks this is ok - surely it is unusual?

OP posts:
ginandtonicwithlimes · 28/09/2023 15:10

ManateeFair · 28/09/2023 14:50

Yeah, the women's loos in my offices are frequently gross, and there are brushes provided in each cubicle so there's no excuse. I genuinely don't think this is just a man thing.

Sounds like OP is trying make it a man thing. Weird.

Kangarude · 28/09/2023 15:14

Nothing to do with men. None of the males in my family do this. The women's toilets at work are another thing... disgusting sometimes.

Pebblesflintstoneandbambamrubble · 28/09/2023 15:32

My sd (then aged 19) used to block the loo-and walk off

Someone else would come in,do what was needed then flush it

The shitty water would rise and they'd have to deal with it-it was getting to the point of just about every night

She just didn't get that if she blocked it,she should deal with it-we had the lies,the screaming,the stomping off-the lot

She threw more than one tantrum over this-and started leaving skid marks/dirty loo paper for either me or her dad to deal with

(dad is soft and did-im evil and made her do it-cue more tantrums and screaming in my face)

Problem was solved when she threw one tantrum too many and found herself moving out

Not had any issues since-dp wouldn't dream of leaving a mess for me to deal with

I firmly believe if you make the mess,you should clean it up

I spent years teaching my lot (girls and boys) the same thing-im told it did sink in now they have their own places

thefuckingdisrespect · 28/09/2023 15:35

Sounds like OP is trying make it a man thing. Weird.

Well, he was one man in a house with three women, and he was the only one to leave the loo in a mess.

I have never ever come across women in their own homes or friends homes who have left the loo like this.

But yes, of course, sometimes I've happened upon a gross public toilet for sure. So it's not that women never do this.

OP posts:
Pixiedust1234 · 28/09/2023 15:37

Yes it's normal in my life. Yet another reason why I'm divorcing. I agree with pp though, he doesn't care about it and since I do, I get the joy of cleaning it. Same with snotty tissues left lying about, or rubbish, etc.

Lightningrain · 28/09/2023 15:43

I could forgive the odd occasion where someone’s been in a rush and forgotten to check before leaving the bathroom but generally I wouldn’t expect anybody to leave a mess in the toilet for someone else to deal with.

I’d be pointing it out and asking the perpetrator to clean up after themselves if it was a daily occurrence.

Brefugee · 28/09/2023 15:43

DonnaBanana · 28/09/2023 15:04

It depends I think. At ours we all leave 'traces' in the toilet every now and then and it doesn't always get cleaned up immediately and especially with kids and teens etc. Blood at certain times, small skids, sometimes paper, but I put bleach down every night and it's all gone no complaints. If it's how your family is, it's fine. I wouldn't want it like that in the visitor loo though.

Urgh.

Having spent time in Asia I got into their habit of cleaning the toilet after I use it. It takes seconds.

(interested how the famously loo-brush-less mnetters get rid of marksl

2Rebecca · 28/09/2023 15:45

I don't see skid marks in the toilet as anything to worry about. It's not on the part you sit on and they really don't bother me. People not opening the window after opening their bowels and leaving the room smelly annoys me more. Skid marks clean themselves after a couple of flushes and no manky loo brush

Lentilweaver · 28/09/2023 15:47

I have a loo brush! Though mostly I don't need to use it. It is possible to open the window and leave the bowl clean. In fact, it is the bare minimum.

HorseySurprise · 28/09/2023 15:49

Brefugee · 28/09/2023 15:43

Urgh.

Having spent time in Asia I got into their habit of cleaning the toilet after I use it. It takes seconds.

(interested how the famously loo-brush-less mnetters get rid of marksl

I use toilet paper to wipe the bowl and then flush it.

Peaceandquietfinally · 28/09/2023 15:49

Exactly what I was thinking. Flush loo wash hands and not realising there are marks

WeWereInParis · 28/09/2023 15:57

Somanycats · 28/09/2023 14:38

Truth is I honestly don't think they expect women to clean it. They don't care the marks are there and don't care if they stay there. If they think about it at all the probably imagine the flush will get rid eventually.

I agree with this. I think people who leave it just thinks it washes off after a few flushes so no need to actively clean it.

Brefugee · 01/10/2023 18:56

HorseySurprise · 28/09/2023 15:49

I use toilet paper to wipe the bowl and then flush it.

but skid marks are often just before the bend under the water line. What do you do with those?

HorseySurprise · 01/10/2023 19:00

Brefugee · 01/10/2023 18:56

but skid marks are often just before the bend under the water line. What do you do with those?

If they are still there after flushing I still use toilet paper, the water is clean and you're washing your hands anyway.

stayathomer · 01/10/2023 19:00

I lived in three different houses with guys in college- yes, normal, but it wasn’t always the girls who cleaned it up. As someone said they’re not expecting women to do it, they just leave it there. Worse was when they did clean and the loo brush sat there covered in poo. (Hence the reason I’m one of the people on mn who detest brushes!!)

comfyshoes2022 · 01/10/2023 19:05

Somanycats · 28/09/2023 14:38

Truth is I honestly don't think they expect women to clean it. They don't care the marks are there and don't care if they stay there. If they think about it at all the probably imagine the flush will get rid eventually.

This

TheGoogleMum · 01/10/2023 19:06

DH doesn't necessarily expect me to clean it for him, he does sometimes need reminding to clean the toilet though

localnotail · 01/10/2023 19:13

WOW some people on here say toilet brush is "manky" but sticking your hand into the bowl and wiping the poo off with your bare hands is ok! crazy .

Brefugee · 01/10/2023 20:20

HorseySurprise · 01/10/2023 19:00

If they are still there after flushing I still use toilet paper, the water is clean and you're washing your hands anyway.

(I have a loo brush so this doesn't apply to me)

I would, at a push, do that for my own mess. I will under no circs do that for anyone else's shit stains. They will get hoiked into the loo sharpish to disappear them.

muddyford · 01/10/2023 20:31

Tell him you scrubbed them off with his toothbrush.

swanteapot · 01/10/2023 20:33

I mean it's in the toilet, not like you are eating off it? Provided the toilet gets cleaned once every so often (by both parties) what's a mark or two in it. Pearl clutching or what.

winterchills · 01/10/2023 20:36

My ex used to do this!!! Absolutely disgusting 🤢

Pugfin · 01/10/2023 20:38

It's not just men but it's rank. No you don't sit on skid marks that are in the bowl but it's still not something people should leave for someone else to clean! MN is weird about toilet brushes, but there are plenty of options that are hygienic now. I left an ex over his poor hygiene, leaving a dirty toilet was one of his grim habits, ew. Also never seen women's toilets that messy bar at 3am in a nightclub. Not denying they exist but again, ew.

QuickDraining · 01/10/2023 20:39

Just get them to do it in tissue and chuck it out the window. Or was that an earlier thread? Confused.

I still feel slightly terrible for having a go at a house guest once that left shit all over the toilet. I read it as some weird dirty protest at the time. And couldn't quite believe it outside of a public toilet.

And as for public toilets, I'm sure I've seen everything. Even turds in the corner of the cubicle as if there was some weird anti-turd force field being emitted from the toilet. And even the walls of the cubicle being completely covered.

I think some people get off on it.

Greenberg2 · 01/10/2023 20:46

Grumpyold · 28/09/2023 15:08

I honestly didn't realise people got so upset about this until I was on MN. It's not something I'd ever do or have done consciously, but AFAIK you use the loo, as it's intended, flush, wash your hands and walk away. I wouldn't know if there were skid marks or not. Stopping to check is just not something I was ever taught to do or thoguht of. Now I know, I am more careful.

Judging by the state of the loo at work, it's not only men.

Genuine question: how would you feel if you went to the loo and someone had left skid marks in it? Wouldn't it bother you? Because it would make me heave tbh. Also poo doesn't always flush so if you don't check you could leave the next person with that delight!

The other thing I hate is when you go to the loo after someone grimy has left something that doesn't disappear after you have been. Then you have to clean someone else's shit off the loo so no-one thinks it's you! Urrrggghh.