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to think University students without particular needs do not need an en-suite shower room?

506 replies

LindorDoubleChoc · 27/09/2023 19:57

I'm so surprised that University Halls of Residence now offer this as an option to more or less all their students. What the hell? How many of you are indulging your offspring with this poncery and why? (exceptional needs aside of course).

When I went to Uni in the dark ages of the 1980s no one had an ensuite. Almost no one had a wash basin either. Is it a money making exercise?

New build houses are the same. Not every bedroom needs separate washing/bathing facilities. The first world's gone mad!

OP posts:
OhhhhhhhhBiscuits · 27/09/2023 20:22

Who honestly cares OP? You don't have to pay for the en suite so if students want to pay for it, let then pay for it.

GellerYeller · 27/09/2023 20:22

My eldest has an en suite at uni. Other people’s hygiene in the shared areas has come as a surprise to her. I think she would prefer an en suite kitchen now! 😂

flutterby1 · 27/09/2023 20:22

Back in the 80's early nighties, student poverty was real .. think THE YOUNG ONES. That was proper student life, no money to eat properly , accommodation was v v v v poor , falling apart and freezing. But always enough for drinks . Happy days

Andnowtowhatcomesnext · 27/09/2023 20:23

I shared a bathroom in halls with some rather disgusting men who would happily wank in the shower, leave their semen all over it and then tell us all about it. They were all rugby boys and were the most obnoxious and hideous examples of the toxic masculinity of the 90s. I’d have def paid more for an en-suite if I’d known the horrors to come!!!

00100001 · 27/09/2023 20:23

LindorDoubleChoc · 27/09/2023 20:13

Why on earth would I do that? I'm on holiday, not a student!

God help all these students who have to share a bathroom when they move out in the second year into a shared flat or house and for probably the next 10 years after that. Students aren't on holiday.

For exactly the same reasons you don't want to share....

just because they're a student they don't need privacy? Or a private washroom?

If they should share with strangers, then why not you?

What's the difference?

Krustykrabpizza · 27/09/2023 20:23

I remember visiting a friend's halls with a shared bathroom.and they were revolting. So glad I had an ensuite

Summerbay23 · 27/09/2023 20:23

@WillowCraft they don’t all have cleaners and loo roll. DSs halls had no cleaners for room or shared lounge/kitchen. No loo roll provided either.

BoohooWoohoo · 27/09/2023 20:24

My dd pays extra for an en-suite because while she is happy to scrub her own loo and shower, she doesn't want to be cleaning after others. She buys her own loo roll.

Her flat is mixed and it's not unreasonable not yo
want to share with men.

BetterWithPockets · 27/09/2023 20:24

Missedmytoe · 27/09/2023 20:14

University, you say? When we were kids our dad used to slap us about the head with a copy of Encyclopedia Britannica.

This made me chortle, @Missedmytoe! @LindorDoubleChoc — it was the same when I was at university (early 90s) but I’m aware both time and definitions of what count as ‘luxuries’ move on. (There was once a time people didn’t have TVs. Or fridges. Or cars… And at one point, women couldn’t vote. Imagine that!) Am rather envious of my DS, actually, just starting uni & having an en suite…

JADS · 27/09/2023 20:24

When I went to University in 1994, there was a 2nd/3rd year hall with ensuite shower rooms. It was brand new and considered very fancy. I had a sink and shared 2 showers and 2 toilets with 13 others (half of whom were lads).

I ended up in said ensuite Hall in the my third year after some house mate drama. It was absolute bliss. Unlike most of MN, I love my ensuite.

ShanghaiDiva · 27/09/2023 20:24

TinySaltLick · 27/09/2023 20:16

Why not, surely it's a suitable comparison - it is just the ongoing improvement of living standards

Do you really think students should deliberately be forced to suffer low standards because that is what people of the past had to endure

Exactly.
back in the 1980s I hand wrote all my essays, shared a bathroom with 6 other people, queued up to use one of the three phones in the hall of residence and attended all lectures in person…life has moved on.

DragonFly98 · 27/09/2023 20:24

A shared bathroom is pretty grim I think you are on a wind up.

LindorDoubleChoc · 27/09/2023 20:24

OspreyLambo · 27/09/2023 20:21

You said:
"I don't really have a problem with it unless parents are having to dig deep to spend more than they want to because 18 year olds expect an en-suite."

But they don't. Nobody does. No parents needs to spend more than they want to because of what their DC expect. They give as much as they want to. End of.

You still have a problem with it, which is why you started an entire thread about it.

Erm no. I think you are agreeing with me.

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QuestionableMouse · 27/09/2023 20:24

As an older teen I had horrible floody periods. Hated trying to get to the loos (which were absolutely grim) down the hallway past probably twenty other rooms.

RandomButtons · 27/09/2023 20:24

I had an en-suite at uni in 2000. It really helped me a lot to have my own little space there and not have to wait for loo etc. had to share a loo in later years and it was a nightmare if you had bad flatmates.

Why would you deny a small comfort to young adults trying to navigate living away from home for the first time, living with 7 utter strangers. En-suite very sensible option for a multitude of reasons.

tpxqi · 27/09/2023 20:24

It’s always amazing how people expect low standards in this country. An en-suite for an adult living in shared accommodation is considered a luxury. Next, someone will come along and say that Garlic is exotic. It’s not the 1950s anymore.

PleaseGiveMeBackMySummer · 27/09/2023 20:24

@LindorDoubleChoc

100% disagree. I bet YOU would not like to be staying somewhere for 3 WEEKS, let alone 3 years - with 3 or 4 other people who were strangers, and you had to share the shitter with them. No privacy for the shits, or if you're vomiting, or if you're sick/ill/ or got flu or something, and no privacy when you're butt naked after a shower.. No way in hell would my DC have ever have had any accommodation without their own shower/loo with a bunch of randoms she didn't know. Possibly men too.

And as has been said, some student accommodation is now mixed sex/mixed gender. Like fuck should any young woman have to share a bathroom with men.

As for 'what the hell' and 'what poncery is this?' What kind of stupid comments are these? Do you actually think anyone cares what you think about them - or their young adult children wanting their own en suite? 😆 You sound bitter and annoyed for some reason. What a strange attitude you have.

00100001 · 27/09/2023 20:25

5128gap · 27/09/2023 20:22

And universities...? What's all that about, then? In the 80s we left school the Friday we were 16 and were down the pit or in the biscuit factory on the Monday morning.

You had an entire weekend off?

La de dah.

I was down t'mines til 11:30, after finishing school at 3pm when I were 8. Didn't hear me complaining.

BitOutOfPractice · 27/09/2023 20:26

Yeah what’s wrong with a tin bath in an unheated scullery. All this hot and cold running water has made people soft.

YoureALizardHarry11 · 27/09/2023 20:26

Most people prefer their own wash facilities and their own complete privacy. I don’t get why you are so outraged at the idea. Most people also don’t stay in hotel rooms without an en-suite either. The uni’s have cottoned on to the fact that there is demand for that.

RandomButtons · 27/09/2023 20:26

ShanghaiDiva · 27/09/2023 20:24

Exactly.
back in the 1980s I hand wrote all my essays, shared a bathroom with 6 other people, queued up to use one of the three phones in the hall of residence and attended all lectures in person…life has moved on.

Quite.

My dad lived in a tower block that swayed in the wind when he was a student, amd electric regularly went out. He got 1st class and PhD, but thank goodness standards have improved.

OspreyLambo · 27/09/2023 20:27

LindorDoubleChoc · 27/09/2023 20:24

Erm no. I think you are agreeing with me.

No, I don't. I think an en-suite is lovely. I'd certainly get one for my DC. You think it's a pointless luxury and have spent several posts railing about it.
You have still failed to explain 'why' it's a problem.

PleaseGiveMeBackMySummer · 27/09/2023 20:27

DragonFly98 · 27/09/2023 20:24

A shared bathroom is pretty grim I think you are on a wind up.

This. Such a goady thread. OP knows this though. Probably loving the attention and the frothing.

Prescottdanni123 · 27/09/2023 20:27

My uni room had an en-suite bathroom. My parents didn't contribute a penny towards it.

OspreyLambo · 27/09/2023 20:28

PleaseGiveMeBackMySummer · 27/09/2023 20:24

@LindorDoubleChoc

100% disagree. I bet YOU would not like to be staying somewhere for 3 WEEKS, let alone 3 years - with 3 or 4 other people who were strangers, and you had to share the shitter with them. No privacy for the shits, or if you're vomiting, or if you're sick/ill/ or got flu or something, and no privacy when you're butt naked after a shower.. No way in hell would my DC have ever have had any accommodation without their own shower/loo with a bunch of randoms she didn't know. Possibly men too.

And as has been said, some student accommodation is now mixed sex/mixed gender. Like fuck should any young woman have to share a bathroom with men.

As for 'what the hell' and 'what poncery is this?' What kind of stupid comments are these? Do you actually think anyone cares what you think about them - or their young adult children wanting their own en suite? 😆 You sound bitter and annoyed for some reason. What a strange attitude you have.

Well put!
OP has gone to great lengths to pretend she doesn't care at the same denouncing en-suites. What's the issue? Don't know.

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