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To be exhausted with this relationship

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Iheartchampagne · 25/09/2023 09:53

Long post. Sorry in advance
Also long term poster and name change.
So I have been with DP 25 years with 4 DC.
I'd say generally we have been happy. We are compatible, although he's very different to me. (Bit grumpy).
Start of the relationship I was certainly very happy. I'd describe him as very attentive, loving etc.

Had a few years where we had lots of arguments, some huge ones, but I will take responsibility for most of that as I was causing problems and picking fights over something and nothing.
Then many good years with the kids and I'd say very content, much more so than anyone else that I knew in such a long term relationship.
Past few years I've felt things aren't quite right. Mostly ticking away fine ,but I've found him to be very intolerant of me and how I just am. Snappy. Just to say I am also quite intolerant of him too but I will tell him when he pisses me off. He denies that he is annoyed with me. Says he's fine. Clearly he's not though. Doesn't pay me as many compliments as he used to and I think it's intentional.

It's become a bit of a silly game where he snaps at me and I get offended. No apology from him. Bit of silent treatment, okay for a bit and then repeat.
I have told him many times that I don't quite feel the same( but I want to) and he says I'm just moaning!!!

Anyway , about 2 months ago we had a massive row, first ones we have had like that for years. He went fucking mental at me. He said some horrible things. Including saying doesn't want to be with me . He said our house was more his than mine. Well we have lived together in this house for 20 years and it's in joint names, but he put down all of the deposit.
We probably earn equal amounts(maybe me a little more) and pay equal amounts towards bills in fact, I perhaps spend more as I buy More for dc.

Well this bloody hurt me.
Obviously we didn't speak after this, but after a couple of days I broached the subject. I expected him to say that he didn't mean it. But no! He told me to stop going on and seemed to think I should let him be and not bother him.
So that was 2 months ago. We have gradually gone back to some normality. Had family holiday that was already booked. Had a good time. Chatted about normal stuff, had a laugh at times.
Still no mention of the row. Now I can be mean myself, but I would always apologise and address what had happened. Not him. Complete silence about it.
So we haven't had sex since then( I wouldn't want to anyhow) and not so much as a kiss. He did try and snuggle up to me in bed recently but I didn't respond.

He seems happy enough with this set up. I honestly believe he just thinks we will slip back to how we were, and to some degree we have, but without the affection and intimacy.

Now we we meant to be having a DIY job on our house, not massive but a few grand. I'm expecting a smallish lump of cash soon and I was going to pay for it, or most of it. Now it's childish, but I do not feel inclined to use my money to do work in what he seems to think is his house. He seems all pretty normal about the future, discussing long term stuff like Christmas, next years holiday etc.I'm looking at holidays myself, but mine is instead of the work on the house!!!

I feel I can barely look at the bloke atm. No way am I asking him for a conversation as he is wrong here. I am not playing games, it's just he was so spiteful to me I can't move forward. He is in the wrong here, not me. I'm like inwardly raging when he says "oh we will get some new flooring next year, or shall we go back to Cyprus, do you think?"
I want to say " are you fucking nuts, you said you didn't want to be with me!" And "its your house isn't it?!"

The think is, I'm keeping my cool as I don't want to give him the satisfaction of saying I'm going on or having a go. I'm patiently waiting like a mug for him to address it all. But it seems unlikely now.
I don't know what to get from this thread. Maybe just to offload.

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Iheartchampagne · 30/09/2023 14:24

Bit of an update but not an update really!
No contacting solicitors or anything at this stage.
We have been together so long and first ever mention of splitting up, so seems premature.
He hasn't said anything about splitting or anything relating to the argument since. In fact he's being normal .

He has been trying to snuggle up to me in bed, which I have been almost tempted by until I remember what he said. And the bloody irony of it all. Me saying for a while things aren't right, him denying this. But then having the audacity to say he's had enough of me!!
Well I'm waiting until DIY jobs are mentioned or holidays and then I will say my piece about not being happy to make any long term or financial commitments as things stand.

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Takeabreather23 · 30/09/2023 14:41

Iheartchampagne · 30/09/2023 14:24

Bit of an update but not an update really!
No contacting solicitors or anything at this stage.
We have been together so long and first ever mention of splitting up, so seems premature.
He hasn't said anything about splitting or anything relating to the argument since. In fact he's being normal .

He has been trying to snuggle up to me in bed, which I have been almost tempted by until I remember what he said. And the bloody irony of it all. Me saying for a while things aren't right, him denying this. But then having the audacity to say he's had enough of me!!
Well I'm waiting until DIY jobs are mentioned or holidays and then I will say my piece about not being happy to make any long term or financial commitments as things stand.

That sounds like a way forward.
Then you can also mention why you aren’t taking him on with his advances unless of course he mentions this first .
You could tell him living with your mouth shut all the time as he won’t communicate or listen also what he said about splitting just isn’t attractive .
Then you could tell him how his words hurt and if he didn’t mean it he should apologise and talk as you need this from him.
He needs to know this relationship isn’t just about him his needs and wants and feelings.

Iheartchampagne · 30/09/2023 22:07

Thanks. Just waiting for the right time. I don't want to blurt it out in temper. As I'm quite calm tbh

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Confusedmeanderings · 01/10/2023 01:33

I think you're right about needing to choose your moment, but I think that you need to be very clear in your own mind about what you want to achieve and what you will do if that doesn't happen .

Summonedbybees · 01/10/2023 02:21

Make sure this is what you want. My friend and her husband had a massive row. They were older than you with kids at university. She threatened him with divorce and seeing a solicitor, He became defensive. They both ended up entrenched in their corners and she felt she had to continue what she had started. Each step of the way she expected him to stop proceedings and make up. They ended divorcing which I honestly think is not at all what she intended. That was twelve years ago. He has remarried and he appears settled and happy. She is single and resentful. She hates that they see their children ( and now grandchildren) separately.
Only you know what you want. Your coolness and resentment will eventually give him a clear message that you have had enough and he will realise that you are over. Just make sure it is what you want. Don't play games and end up regretting that you allowed things to end.
I think you don't believe he meant what he said. Time goes on. Is it worth ending things over a row? Be clear in your own mind what you want. You write that you despise him. If that is true, is there any way back?

BoxOfCats · 01/10/2023 08:19

Are you actually on the deeds of the house? Or just the mortgage?

Iheartchampagne · 03/10/2023 10:16

@Summonedbybees
That's very interesting. And sad.
Well I don't want to end up like that.
What I want to happen (or wanted) Is for him to immediately address what he had said and apologise as I don't believe that he meant it, no.
Or if he did mean it,follow it up. Although I really don't think a big argument should be the end of a 25 year relationship.
But he hasn't.
And I think hes slipped into thinking things are okay! Although he must know that they aren't as I have not even as much as pecked him on the cheek in all this time.
I'm actually raging at this ,as does he really think it's OK for a relationship to he like this. Or does he just think maybe I need a bit more time to snap out of my mood?! Probably.
He probably knows he's done wrong , accepts I'm pissed off and just thinks things will eventually return to normal.
I don't know if I detest him , but I detest the way that he is behaving.

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Iheartchampagne · 03/10/2023 10:20

@Confusedmeanderings
I'm not sure what I want to achieve.
He will never be a talker and address issues. I know that now. His response to every issue is move on without talking things through.
He sees this as 'going on'.

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ArtyStripedSocks · 03/10/2023 12:30

I know you've said that he won't see a relationship counsellor but honestly, he doesn't have many options. It sounds like the way he conducts himself within your relationship is very challenging and resentment is building. I say this because this was my experience of relationship counselling, but you could probably do with some adjustments to how you cope and behave as well; I certainly did.
Why don't you find a relationship counsellor you like the look of, and start going to sessions by yourself if he won't partake? The counsellor may give you some suggestions about how you can persuade him to engage with the process.

The very last thing you want or need at this stage in your life is a divorce, it will be a nightmare, and will set you back a minimum of ten years financially, combined with the fact that you won't even be working for much more that then years anyway. Plus it's a nightmare for the kids, and as another poster had said, the grandchildren too.

You sound like a fairly pragmatic person and don't necessarily expect or need the big romance, but he's slipped too far in the other direction. If he carry's on being like this he'll be intolerable as an old man. You definitely need an intervention from somewhere.

Good luck.

Iheartchampagne · 03/10/2023 18:56

Thanks@ArtyStripedSocks
Your post has given me a lot to think about.
I don't want to end such a long relationship and all the things that we have shared.
But I agree, he will be an intolerable old man at this rate.

He hasn't been the same with me for some times and a grumpy fucker at times too. But I accept my part in that too. This time is different.
The counselling by myself sounds a good idea.

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ArtyStripedSocks · 03/10/2023 20:19

Ah, I really wish you the best of luck. I was lucky that my DH was prepared to engage with relationship counselling. It was hard though, for both of us, but thankfully worth every minute in the end. I hope you can find a way of getting through to him.

ChaliceinWonderland · 03/10/2023 20:31

Yep, you've been with him so long, you've lost sight of what's normal. Married people in love don't despise each other.

My marriage ended too when had so much contempt for him, I had to leave.

Thank god did. This is broken stop trying to fix it.

See a solicitor ASAP.. move on.

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