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Bonsaitreepic · 22/09/2023 08:49

I got my UC payment today. Just checked and it’s almost £300 less than usual. This is because my oldest is now classed as an adult as he’s left ft education. He’s not currently in work.
I have 3 other children but now I seemingly only get support for 2 of them due to the child cap.
Im freaking out. I only get maintenance for one of the children as I have the other 2 50/50 with their dad. I cannot afford to lose this much money every month. I was already struggling as it was. I’m unable to work just yet as one of the children has complex needs. I already get some DLA for them.
im quite sure there’s nothing I can do about this but I’m so worried

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Secondwindplease · 22/09/2023 20:40

fluffyguineapig · 22/09/2023 20:38

You're not offering help. you're just telling everyone that you managed it so get on with it.

You're also claiming that you did 60 hours of work in the 30 hours a week of school time, and then just didn't sleep. It doesn't sound like advice that anyone else can follow.

Not helpful for me as my child doesn't have a school placement, but glad to hear that other people should just not sleep and do as well as you.

I have already explained that a full time degree is not the equivalent hours of a full time job (unless you’re medicine or hard sciences). I hope you found my post helpful because I did try to explain how some courses can adapt to modern family life, even in difficult circumstances.

Princessandthepea0 · 22/09/2023 20:41

fluffyguineapig · 22/09/2023 20:38

You're not offering help. you're just telling everyone that you managed it so get on with it.

You're also claiming that you did 60 hours of work in the 30 hours a week of school time, and then just didn't sleep. It doesn't sound like advice that anyone else can follow.

Not helpful for me as my child doesn't have a school placement, but glad to hear that other people should just not sleep and do as well as you.

No I am not. Read my posts. 30 odd hours of study I managed to do in 15 max - more when assignments were due. I did it because I wanted a better future. I pushed myself to do it in the shortest time possible. It’s possible with 8 hours a week study max.

Literally, in the time you’ve been arguing on here trying to ‘catch me out’ under the guise of wanting advice - you could’ve completed a weeks worth of study on an undergrad. Choices.

fluffyguineapig · 22/09/2023 20:43

Princessandthepea0 · 22/09/2023 20:41

No I am not. Read my posts. 30 odd hours of study I managed to do in 15 max - more when assignments were due. I did it because I wanted a better future. I pushed myself to do it in the shortest time possible. It’s possible with 8 hours a week study max.

Literally, in the time you’ve been arguing on here trying to ‘catch me out’ under the guise of wanting advice - you could’ve completed a weeks worth of study on an undergrad. Choices.

Yes, in the hour that I've been on here I could have done a week's worth of undergrad 😂 thanks for the advice!

mycoffeecup · 22/09/2023 20:43

Bonsaitreepic · 22/09/2023 16:30

Sorry for the delay. I haven’t read all the replies(there’s quite a lot!)
when he was doing his A levels he had a pt job in a restaurant. He was there about 2 years but he left a few months ago. Too many staff, not enough customers.

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and for the last few months he's been doing what? applying for tens of jobs every week? or sitting on his backside?

Princessandthepea0 · 22/09/2023 20:44

fluffyguineapig · 22/09/2023 20:43

Yes, in the hour that I've been on here I could have done a week's worth of undergrad 😂 thanks for the advice!

Yes you could. In the time you’ve been on here you could’ve done a weeks modules on an undergrad unit. As @Secondwindplease has told you also - you know a uni lecturer.

Secondwindplease · 22/09/2023 20:46

@fluffyguineapig Differences aside, if you are interested in pursuing a degree then you can PM me. I am more than happy to help shortlist courses, research funding and review applications. Its not easy but it’s more accessible than people first think.

Dixiechickonhols · 22/09/2023 20:46

toomanyhobbies · 22/09/2023 20:34

@Bonsaitreepic I have only read the first page and hate to add to your worries but assuming your also claim Council tax reduction/support this will also change now he is not in education. Assuming your son is over 18 you will lose your 25% single person discount on your council tax so your liability will increase but your council tax reduction/support you claim might not cover the difference.

That’s a really useful post and I hope Op sees it so she’s not blindsided by that too.

bananaxapple · 22/09/2023 20:46

fluffyguineapig · 22/09/2023 20:43

Yes, in the hour that I've been on here I could have done a week's worth of undergrad 😂 thanks for the advice!

An hour relentlessly arguing with strangers online trying to look ‘smart’ Confused. Trust me, posters reading this thread definitely think you’re being a busybody, nobody is cheering you on, but instead think you’re being incredibly petty.

Go spend this time with your own child instead which you seem to heavily advocate for, instead of playing detective on a post that will be off the front page by tomorrow morning 😂 was it all worth it?

Princessandthepea0 · 22/09/2023 20:47

Secondwindplease · 22/09/2023 20:46

@fluffyguineapig Differences aside, if you are interested in pursuing a degree then you can PM me. I am more than happy to help shortlist courses, research funding and review applications. Its not easy but it’s more accessible than people first think.

This.

fluffyguineapig · 22/09/2023 20:48

Princessandthepea0 · 22/09/2023 20:44

Yes you could. In the time you’ve been on here you could’ve done a weeks modules on an undergrad unit. As @Secondwindplease has told you also - you know a uni lecturer.

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Come on, you know as well as I do that you can't do a week's worth of undergrad in an hour. I do have a masters degree - I got it before I had children. We both know that that isn't true that you could complete the week's work in an hour, especially if you want to get a first class degree. There's no point in trying to encourage OP to study by grossly underestimating the time commitment, otherwise she could end up wasting time and a lot of money and becoming completely snowed under.

Tontostitis · 22/09/2023 20:49

Why borrow £200 off your mum and yet your son keeps £200 of his UC as spending money? He should be giving you the £200 and looking for work? Ffs there's a lot of work out there, our local butcher can't get anyone I know 2 builders desperate for labourers and the local Costa us advertising. The problem isn't UC its you and your son.

fluffyguineapig · 22/09/2023 20:51

bananaxapple · 22/09/2023 20:46

An hour relentlessly arguing with strangers online trying to look ‘smart’ Confused. Trust me, posters reading this thread definitely think you’re being a busybody, nobody is cheering you on, but instead think you’re being incredibly petty.

Go spend this time with your own child instead which you seem to heavily advocate for, instead of playing detective on a post that will be off the front page by tomorrow morning 😂 was it all worth it?

My child is cuddled up next to me thank you, as he always is. Glad to hear that you speak for everybody reading this thread :)

Secondwindplease · 22/09/2023 20:51

fluffyguineapig · 22/09/2023 20:48

Come on, you know as well as I do that you can't do a week's worth of undergrad in an hour. I do have a masters degree - I got it before I had children. We both know that that isn't true that you could complete the week's work in an hour, especially if you want to get a first class degree. There's no point in trying to encourage OP to study by grossly underestimating the time commitment, otherwise she could end up wasting time and a lot of money and becoming completely snowed under.

No, an hour a week is possibly an exaggeration. Could have got through a lecture though.

If you have a masters then why the faux ignorance about how to do it? Several times you said you’d like @Princessandthepea0 to reveal all as it would be helpful for you?

Princessandthepea0 · 22/09/2023 20:51

fluffyguineapig · 22/09/2023 20:48

Come on, you know as well as I do that you can't do a week's worth of undergrad in an hour. I do have a masters degree - I got it before I had children. We both know that that isn't true that you could complete the week's work in an hour, especially if you want to get a first class degree. There's no point in trying to encourage OP to study by grossly underestimating the time commitment, otherwise she could end up wasting time and a lot of money and becoming completely snowed under.

It really is, especially in humanities. I literally did it. Assignments aside… Hopefully op if they are interested ignored the negativity and the ‘it’s impossible’ and messages someone like @Secondwindplease who can help with future plans. Not an instant solution but a long term one for her and her children.

Well done for confirming what everyone on this thread knew though - you weren’t after help - you wanted an argument. It doesn’t reflect well.

fluffyguineapig · 22/09/2023 20:52

Secondwindplease · 22/09/2023 20:46

@fluffyguineapig Differences aside, if you are interested in pursuing a degree then you can PM me. I am more than happy to help shortlist courses, research funding and review applications. Its not easy but it’s more accessible than people first think.

Thanks @Secondwindplease I do already have an MA, which I got before having my children. It's nice of you to offer though.

AliOlis · 22/09/2023 20:52

fluffyguineapig · 22/09/2023 20:51

My child is cuddled up next to me thank you, as he always is. Glad to hear that you speak for everybody reading this thread :)

I imagine she speaks for most of us, yes.

Willyoujustbequiet · 22/09/2023 20:54

Miyagi99 · 22/09/2023 12:34

I personally know lots of people with severely disabled children, some with life limiting illnesses. They all work.

Then they must be independently wealthy in some way to be able to pay for help or have a large amount of family support as God knows there's none from the broken system we have.

But quite frankly as a mum of kids with complex needs I simply don't believe you. Not sure how anyone is physically able to when they have to care throughout the night. Maybe they have developed super powers and can dispense with basic human need for sleep.

fluffyguineapig · 22/09/2023 20:56

Secondwindplease · 22/09/2023 20:51

No, an hour a week is possibly an exaggeration. Could have got through a lecture though.

If you have a masters then why the faux ignorance about how to do it? Several times you said you’d like @Princessandthepea0 to reveal all as it would be helpful for you?

It's not faux ignorance - it's knowing that what she is saying isn't adding up, and it's all very well saying that it's possible to work full time, study full time and take care of three disabled children all without any childcare, but it doesn't add up. Especially saying that you can complete a week's worth of work in an hour. And it's not fair to sell false hope to people like that, especially as courses are so expensive to start.

Secondwindplease · 22/09/2023 20:58

fluffyguineapig · 22/09/2023 20:56

It's not faux ignorance - it's knowing that what she is saying isn't adding up, and it's all very well saying that it's possible to work full time, study full time and take care of three disabled children all without any childcare, but it doesn't add up. Especially saying that you can complete a week's worth of work in an hour. And it's not fair to sell false hope to people like that, especially as courses are so expensive to start.

You are entitled to scrutinise, but you did suggest that it would be helpful for you to know as maybe you could do something similar, which was insincere.

Princessandthepea0 · 22/09/2023 20:59

fluffyguineapig · 22/09/2023 20:56

It's not faux ignorance - it's knowing that what she is saying isn't adding up, and it's all very well saying that it's possible to work full time, study full time and take care of three disabled children all without any childcare, but it doesn't add up. Especially saying that you can complete a week's worth of work in an hour. And it's not fair to sell false hope to people like that, especially as courses are so expensive to start.

It does add up because I did it. You’ve just outed yourself I’m afraid. I have been very clear. I did full time which was about 15 hours a week. You can do less. I was being flippant as you were so desperate for help. You kept asking how I did it as you wanted to know as it would help you. I advised getting off the internet and using that time to study.

Turns out every poster who called you out was right to. You didn’t want advice. You just can’t cope with someone’s success story. I’m sorry, that’s just sad. Maybe you’d be happier not trying to place glass ceilings on people. Try it.

fluffyguineapig · 22/09/2023 21:00

Secondwindplease · 22/09/2023 20:58

You are entitled to scrutinise, but you did suggest that it would be helpful for you to know as maybe you could do something similar, which was insincere.

I mean I would love to retrain but my child doesn't have a school place so it's a non starter. If there was any actually useful advice then I would definitely appreciate it and file it away when the LA finally pulls their finger out and educates my child.

Mumofmarauders · 22/09/2023 21:02

milafawny · 22/09/2023 10:57

Also to add, my son was also trying to figure out what he wanted to do, and in the end applied for portering at the hospital. They generally always need staff. My son has additional needs and struggles socially, so he does logistical portering rather than patient transfers. It is a set rota of 4 shifts on 4 shifts off so he aways knows when he is working and the routine helps massively. And, hes on bloody good money for a lad of his age in comparison to his friends and has more day off to do as he wants than most too. It has also massively boosted his confidence, mental health, and he is developing social with public asking him for directions. Its a brilliant first job, and secure, and one he can infact do for life should he wish. Its also a role not many young lads would initially think of, so i thought i would suggest it as it has turned my son into a wonderful young man.

How lovely to read!😊

fluffyguineapig · 22/09/2023 21:03

Princessandthepea0 · 22/09/2023 20:59

It does add up because I did it. You’ve just outed yourself I’m afraid. I have been very clear. I did full time which was about 15 hours a week. You can do less. I was being flippant as you were so desperate for help. You kept asking how I did it as you wanted to know as it would help you. I advised getting off the internet and using that time to study.

Turns out every poster who called you out was right to. You didn’t want advice. You just can’t cope with someone’s success story. I’m sorry, that’s just sad. Maybe you’d be happier not trying to place glass ceilings on people. Try it.

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I asked you how you did it and you said that you worked full time (40 hours) studied full time (apparently really quickly, doing 30 hours in 15 hours - then changed it to one hour!) and only had 30 hours away from your children a week, and you just didn't sleep. Well done, but it's not any advice that's helpful for anyone else!

Secondwindplease · 22/09/2023 21:03

fluffyguineapig · 22/09/2023 21:00

I mean I would love to retrain but my child doesn't have a school place so it's a non starter. If there was any actually useful advice then I would definitely appreciate it and file it away when the LA finally pulls their finger out and educates my child.

I am sorry things are so tough. It’s a shame this thread has become so heated when we’re all clever, ballsy women who should be pulling in the same direction.

fluffyguineapig · 22/09/2023 21:05

Secondwindplease · 22/09/2023 21:03

I am sorry things are so tough. It’s a shame this thread has become so heated when we’re all clever, ballsy women who should be pulling in the same direction.

Thanks @Secondwindplease, yes life is hard enough without judging each other <3

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