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What’s the furthest north in the UK you’ve been? Where do you think the north starts?

506 replies

BarrelOfOtters · 21/09/2023 07:10

Prompted by a friend who has never been north of Birmingham and thinks of that as North.

orkney for me.

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Edinvillian · 21/09/2023 21:21

John o'Groats

DuchessOfSausage · 21/09/2023 21:21

@DownNative , are you telling us you think Leeds is in the Midlands? Shock

TheClitterati · 21/09/2023 21:24

Dunnet Head.

Dreaming of going to the Scottish Islands one day

Appleofmyeye2023 · 21/09/2023 21:27

DownNative · 21/09/2023 21:03

To make it clearer, I've drawn two lines on a map of the UK.

Anything above the red line is the north of the UK.

Anything below blue is the south of the UK.

Inbetween is the midlands of the UK.

Scotland looks massive in comparison to England on this map. But in reality England is much bigger - 1.66 times bigger than Scotland!

You’ve got Lancashire in midland, and most of Yorkshire - wtf? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
that’ll go down well if you were to pitch that to my neighbours in Lancashire and family in Yorkshire

or are you just crap at identifying on maps where the Mersey and Humber are?

CasperGutman · 21/09/2023 21:28

Furthest north I've made it is Drumnadrochit. Never quite made it to Inverness!

As an Englishman, in my book the north starts along a line somewhere around Crewe-Mansfield-Grimsby. In Wales, the north starts at about Machynlleth. I've no idea where the north of Scotland starts, though. Is Aberdeen northern?

Alaimo · 21/09/2023 21:29

For me the North starts around Aberdeen. Everything south of the Scottish central belt is The South.

DownNative · 21/09/2023 21:32

Appleofmyeye2023 · 21/09/2023 21:27

You’ve got Lancashire in midland, and most of Yorkshire - wtf? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
that’ll go down well if you were to pitch that to my neighbours in Lancashire and family in Yorkshire

or are you just crap at identifying on maps where the Mersey and Humber are?

It's NOT England that's the point of the thread, but the UNITED KINGDOM itself!

Amazing how many people are completely stuck on a very England centric understanding of what the UKs geography actually is....🤷‍♂️

It's also NOT about Great Britain either as UK is more than just GB.

FabFitFifties · 21/09/2023 21:32

Teeside/County Durham are the furthest south, I can class as being north. I've been to Scotland lots but not sure which holiday was furthest North.

DownNative · 21/09/2023 21:35

DuchessOfSausage · 21/09/2023 21:21

@DownNative , are you telling us you think Leeds is in the Midlands? Shock

Are you telling us you think the thread is about England, @DuchessOfSausage?!

There is a massive difference between the geography of the United Kingdom and the geography of England.

UK is not interchangeable with England. 🤦‍♂️

Appleofmyeye2023 · 21/09/2023 21:35

I’ve lived as far south as Brighton and Canterbury and as far north as Newcastle
my formative years were in Yorkshire and I think of myself as northern.

but I also spent years in Cheshire and now in Lancashire

ive travelled as far north as Isle of Mull

so north is definately Lancashire and Yorkshire upwards. (Let’s include Liverpool Merseyside and Humber in that as part of Lancashire and Yorkshire until a few decades ago, 🙄)

Cheshire is interesting- parts feel very northern, but once you get down to south of county along Shropshire border definitely feels more midlands . There again some parts of west cheshire are positively Welsh!

PollyannaWhittier · 21/09/2023 21:38

Also Dunnet Head. I'd love to go to the islands one day.
'The North' for me starts somewhere between Derby and Sheffield Grin (I live in South Herts)

Appleofmyeye2023 · 21/09/2023 21:40

DownNative · 21/09/2023 21:32

It's NOT England that's the point of the thread, but the UNITED KINGDOM itself!

Amazing how many people are completely stuck on a very England centric understanding of what the UKs geography actually is....🤷‍♂️

It's also NOT about Great Britain either as UK is more than just GB.

Nope, not at all England centric - my husband was Scottish . He’d still class north as Yorkshire and Lancashire.
we’re not talking about an geometry or even geography puzzle, but a cultural and political division.
I don’t think I ever heard anyone relating the north south divide to Scotland becuase it’s, er, Scotland - it doesn’t have that terminology applied and most Scot’s would be huffed off (understatement) with anything other than being referred to as Scottish , you’d not call a Scot’s “northern” fgs, you’d call them Scottish
just as you’d not call the welsh “westerners”- they’re welsh and have their own culture

CasperGutman · 21/09/2023 21:43

DownNative · 21/09/2023 21:32

It's NOT England that's the point of the thread, but the UNITED KINGDOM itself!

Amazing how many people are completely stuck on a very England centric understanding of what the UKs geography actually is....🤷‍♂️

It's also NOT about Great Britain either as UK is more than just GB.

Ah. I think the point here is that "the north of the UK" isn't a meaningful concept for most people.

Scotland is further north than England, of course. But people don't think of Scotland as "the north". They think of it as Scotland.

Nobody thinks about or cares whether Newry is in the north of the UK. To anyone in Great Britain, the important thing is it's in Northern Ireland. In the context of Northern Ireland, it's in the south. And in the context of Ireland as a whole, it's in the north.

BarbieKew · 21/09/2023 21:44

To me it’s roughly Chester to Sheffield to Hull. Or Mersey to Humber with a slightly wiggly line.

Furthest north I’ve been is Auchterarder.

JudgeJ · 21/09/2023 21:44

Surely being North or South depends where you're standing, if you're in Shetland then almost all the UK is the South.

DuchessOfSausage · 21/09/2023 21:44

@DownNative , I read the thread title properly the first time, thanks. I am fully aware that 'the UK' is not interchangeable with 'England'. I have travelled widely in the UK and know that Leeds is a long way south of Scotland. It's still in 'The North'.

merryhouse · 21/09/2023 21:44

(a) Inverness, or possibly northern Skye (not sure exactly where we went)

(b) if you mean "the North of England" then a bit further than Derby.

Hedjwitch · 21/09/2023 21:46

Shetland

sadaboutmycat · 21/09/2023 21:46

napody · 21/09/2023 07:17

Derby and up. When people talk about 'the north' they mean north of england- obviously Scotland a different country not just part of 'the north'.

Derby is Midlands tho, not The North.

LuluBlakey1 · 21/09/2023 21:46

Shetland

What’s the furthest north in the UK you’ve been? Where do you think the north starts?
Dymaxion · 21/09/2023 21:49

One of the Orkney islands north of the main island. Was lovely.

Leggytigberk · 21/09/2023 21:59

Alloa nr Stirling
Yorkshire Lancashire to be North. Where the vowel sounds change. Glass does not sound as if it has an 'r' after the 'a'.

RoseMartha · 21/09/2023 22:11

Falls of Shin

I think it really starts Birmingham .

I live way down on the south coast though.

DuchessOfSausage · 21/09/2023 22:13

Glass does not sound as if it has an 'r' after the 'a'.
It doesn't anywhere other than the West Country.

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 21/09/2023 22:16

Shetland (well, off the coast in a boat)

The North begins just south of Sheffield