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I still fancy RB

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WesterChick · 19/09/2023 23:16

I've watched the documentary.

I still fancy RB.

I identify as a radical feminist.

I'm married with kids.

I think that if you are a heterosexual woman, you are either in denial on what men are or you accept what they are but find them irresistibly sexually attractive and so continue to be with them.

RB is simply what the vast majority of men would be like if they could get away with it.

Therefore - and because he's bloody good looking, funny and intelligent - and sexy - I will continue to fancy the pants off him.

I think women who are being all shocked and descusted at his behaviour need to consider what men are actually like. There's not some massive demarcation between him and other men.

OP posts:
CandyLeBonBon · 20/09/2023 13:25

He looks like he needs a good wash and that his breath stinks - but you crack on OP!

CurlewKate · 20/09/2023 13:27

@ClearThisUp "if you're a radfem reading this and feel the urge to try to discredit my opinion...."

The problem here is that I don't know what you mean when you say "radical
feminist" Could you come up with a succinct definition, please?

Braveheart35 · 20/09/2023 13:51

ZenNudist · 19/09/2023 23:19

That Vladimir Putin is a bit of alright. Have you seen him with his top off riding a horse?

😂😂

Thelnebriati · 20/09/2023 14:01

The radical feminist position to take is that all PIV sex is rape.
No it isn't. I think you've hear the term used and you think 'radical' means 'extremist'.
It doesn't.

CurlewKate · 20/09/2023 14:01

@ZenNudist And as for that Marshal Zhukov.....oh wait-maybe I mean Jason Isaacs....

CurlewKate · 20/09/2023 14:02

@Thelnebriati Indeed. I do wish we could define our terms before we have one of these discussions.

sunglassesonthetable · 20/09/2023 14:06

I think it all led on fancying the pants off RB.

You know, how attractive he is ( or isn't ) but. perhaps that was just to lure into the thread.

ClearThisUp · 20/09/2023 14:07

CurlewKate · 20/09/2023 13:27

@ClearThisUp "if you're a radfem reading this and feel the urge to try to discredit my opinion...."

The problem here is that I don't know what you mean when you say "radical
feminist" Could you come up with a succinct definition, please?

You tagged the wrong person @CurlewKate , you want @Begsthequestion
Just letting you know if this is important question and you want the answer.

HikingforScenery · 20/09/2023 14:09

He always came across as a creep to me. There was always something about him.
Without his creepy vibes, nothing about him is attractive to me so i can’t relate in any way

LoobyDop · 20/09/2023 14:14

It’s pretty clear that @Begsthequestion has issues with all kinds of feminism, how about we don’t take the fairly unsubtle bait by joining in and derailing the thread into rad vs lib vs GC or whatever else they’ve googled?

EmmaOvary · 20/09/2023 14:17

So, what is it about rapists that you find attractive?

Naunet · 20/09/2023 14:20

I know what (some) men are like, I was raised by a man who sexually abused me from the age of three, he’s my biological dad. Any woman who could fancy him after knowing that about him, has something wrong with her in my view.

It’s pretty gross to come here crowing about how much you fancy a rapist.

funinthesun19 · 20/09/2023 14:26

I’ve never understood why he’s seen as such a dream boat. Years ago loads of women and girls fancied him and I just didn’t get it. Not sure if he’s still seen that way anymore, but there was a time when people used to bang on about sexy he is/was. The hair and the clothes and the chest did nothing for me. 🤢

Naunet · 20/09/2023 14:26

EmmaOvary · 20/09/2023 14:17

So, what is it about rapists that you find attractive?

The attention she gets from it probably. Why else would you come here to declare how much you fancy a rapist and that all men are basically rapists anyway so it’s no big deal…

Eleganz · 20/09/2023 14:27

The idea that attraction is something purely physiological and involuntary is something I reject as it is far more complex than that. If it wasn't we wouldn't have scores of women on here talking about the "ick" caused by their partner's behaviours and opinions.

The idea that women are slaves to their emotions and biology is not a feminist opinion. I hear it most coming out of the manosphere.

EmmaOvary · 20/09/2023 14:27

Agree. This thread is gross and incredibly tone deaf. So many SA survivors around, what is the point of starting a thread about how sexy you find Brand? Naff off and make a calendar or something, OP. Russell Brand can be Mr January, Weinstein February, Bill Cosby March, I’m sure you’ll get your kicks.

sunglassesonthetable · 20/09/2023 14:30

The idea that attraction is something purely physiological and involuntary is something I reject as it is far more complex than that. If it wasn't we wouldn't have scores of women on here talking about the "ick" caused by their partner's behaviours and opinions.

This. 👏🏼

And equally that " all men would do it, if they could get away with it " and simple slaves to their biology.

itsmylife7 · 20/09/2023 14:31

If me and Russel were the only two humans left and had to continue the human race by having sex...goodbye human race.

I've always thought he was a sleazy git.

Deadringer · 20/09/2023 14:34

I agree op that many men, probably most of them, would behave like RB if they could get away with it. Do I fancy him now knowing he is a rapist? Fuck no!

EarringsandLipstick · 20/09/2023 14:34

It's disgraceful that MNHQ have been so desperate for clickbait that they left this standing. It's awful and diminishing of the serious of rape and SA.

Being attracted to a man who is seen as off the scale of appropriate male behaviour?
RB is not just a man who is 'seen as off the scale of appropriate male behaviour'. His behaviour is not merely inappropriate. Evidentially, he has coerced, abused and assaulted women. This isn't alone based on the testimony of individual women, but many collective voices, with corroborated accounts. The OP can be in no doubt of this.

To continue to bleat she is a feminist, when she can do nothing but add the denigration of so many women, is ludicrous and offensive.

A PP has it - it's not that she's arguing any deeply held convictions (as they make no sense), she simply wants attention. And MNHQ have been happy to facilitate it.

TedMullins · 20/09/2023 14:35

Eleganz · 20/09/2023 14:27

The idea that attraction is something purely physiological and involuntary is something I reject as it is far more complex than that. If it wasn't we wouldn't have scores of women on here talking about the "ick" caused by their partner's behaviours and opinions.

The idea that women are slaves to their emotions and biology is not a feminist opinion. I hear it most coming out of the manosphere.

yep, absolutely agree with this. It's a toxic and reductive narrative

readbooksdrinktea · 20/09/2023 14:36

Naunet · 20/09/2023 14:20

I know what (some) men are like, I was raised by a man who sexually abused me from the age of three, he’s my biological dad. Any woman who could fancy him after knowing that about him, has something wrong with her in my view.

It’s pretty gross to come here crowing about how much you fancy a rapist.

I'm so so sorry that was done to you. This thread is awful, and I can't believe it's still up.

TarquinOliverNimrod · 20/09/2023 14:37

Could your bar be any lower 😂

harryslife · 20/09/2023 14:45

@WesterChick Name change for this but as a father, with two kids and a deceased wife who reads MN you talk complete utter shit regarding all men.

Believe it or not I only ever made love to my past wife because she enjoyed and it pleasured her, it if she ever suggested she wanted it just to please me I would refuse.

RB is a sleazy bastard who should be locked up and the key thrown if proved guilty and no reflection on any other men in this world there are bad and good in all sexes.

EarringsandLipstick · 20/09/2023 14:46

This thread is awful, and I can't believe it's still up.

Indeed. It's shocking.

@HopeMumsnet MNHQ have behaved really badly here by allowing the offensive ramblings of one poster upset many others who have experienced sexual trauma.