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My professional salary only just covers my rent. How can this be?

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Rentmakesmepoor · 19/09/2023 09:20

I am an occupational therapist in the NHS. I am a single parent. After tax, student loan and pension I take home roughly £1900.
I live in the South East of England. My rent is £1750 a month for a 3 bed, SMALL semi detached house with a courtyard garden

How is it that we have got to the point in this country that my salary literally just pays for my rent and nothing else??

I am permanently skint. I am not looking for solutions as I do nd claim everything I can (which is not alot).

But how can this be?

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Willmafrockfit · 19/09/2023 15:20

can you do any private work as an addition?
lucky you get some help

Willmafrockfit · 19/09/2023 15:21

do a bit of dyslexia work?

Willmafrockfit · 19/09/2023 15:22

oh you are not looking for a solution?
yes rent is crippling

user1497207191 · 19/09/2023 15:22

Presil · 19/09/2023 14:25

Wages have been devalued and housing costs inflated for over 15 years and the UK is now a low wage economy with high living costs. This is a structural problem that won't be solved by a physiotherapist moving from Kent to Pontefract.

As for how it happened, fifteen years of printing money, freezing wages, and encouraging credit based demand in house purchases.

What did a physiotherapist earn in 2002? I bet it wasn't a lot less than you are on now OP. But a physiotherapist in 2002 would have much lower living costs than you do, even in the South East.

Regardless of individual people making coherent choices there are more and more people for whom the economic structure of this country isn't working.

Trouble is, it's not just 15 years, more like 20-25. Most of those things you mention were happening under Blair/Brown, in fact Brown's tax credits pumped money into the economy causing house price inflation and higher rents.

We, as a country, have been heading down the wrong track for 25 years or more.

sadaboutmycat · 19/09/2023 15:35

Southeastdweller · 19/09/2023 09:29

Could it be because you live in the south east of England?

The point of this thread is what, exactly?

Your tone is very aggressive- did you mean it to be?
I think the OP is justified to feel incredulous that her professional salary only covers her rent. That's her point. I would agree with her.
Are all professional single people meant to move North then? Away from family, friends? Who would do the job in the South if they all move North?

Willmafrockfit · 19/09/2023 15:38

oh also you can apply perhaps to housing association as a keyworker?

Wakintoblueskies · 19/09/2023 15:44

Yes.

Rent then is approx 46% of disposable income?

£3800 - £1750 (rent) = £2050 per month disposable income per month?

TenderDandelions · 19/09/2023 15:55

Edited to remove - posted to wrong thread!

Baconisdelicious · 19/09/2023 16:19

It's really sad to move away, but a lot of people either have to be skint in an expensive area or move to a more affordable area.

moving away is not the answer, though is it? there is a need for qualified professionals of all kinds in the south east, just as there is everywhere else. The point the OP is trying to make, I think, is that she should be able to live on her salary as a qualified professional, regardless of where she lives. Obviously, she is going to have more spare cash if she lives further north than the SE. If everyone leaves the SE, what then? Loads and loads of high earners with no childcare, no one to serve them coffee, no nurses to care for them or teachers in state schools.

horseyhorsey17 · 19/09/2023 16:25

Wakintoblueskies · 19/09/2023 15:44

Yes.

Rent then is approx 46% of disposable income?

£3800 - £1750 (rent) = £2050 per month disposable income per month?

What is this figure?

Let me guess - it's a sum that you and some other pearl-clutching right winger on here have imagined 'worked out' the OP actually brings in every month so you can feel justified in bitching about how she really should be able to manage?

Hopefully I'm wrong but given the poisonous responses on here so far, I bet I am not.

Oliotya · 19/09/2023 16:33

horseyhorsey17 · 19/09/2023 16:25

What is this figure?

Let me guess - it's a sum that you and some other pearl-clutching right winger on here have imagined 'worked out' the OP actually brings in every month so you can feel justified in bitching about how she really should be able to manage?

Hopefully I'm wrong but given the poisonous responses on here so far, I bet I am not.

Benefits entitlements are hardly a secret. Anyone can enter the info OP has volunteered and make an educated guess at what she receives...
We're allowed to discuss the adequacy of salaries but not benefits?

Wakintoblueskies · 19/09/2023 16:43

Teenangels · 19/09/2023 12:50

Yes,
rent element let's say £1200
4x child element if all born before 2017 £1100
single person element £375
total 2675
wages £1900 minus £373= 1627
£1627x0.55=£873
so you take
£874 off the total UC entitlement
equals £1802 UC per month.
so wages and UC plus child benefit equals around £3800 plus child benefit.

We're allowed to discuss the adequacy of salaries but not benefits?

Clarie46 · 19/09/2023 16:44

Plantymcplantface · 19/09/2023 10:58

I really feel for you OP

but disagree that this is wholly a pay problem. It’s a housing problem - a housing crisis. We have family in the Netherlands where rent is capped and there is more social housing.

Absolutely agree, it’s a south east housing issue, too many people for the available housing. Organisations operating in such areas really need to provide housing for their workers, just like the military do for its personnel or schools/hospitals in Dubai etc, accommodation comes with the job else they just wouldn’t get the staff

Middlelanehogger · 19/09/2023 16:46

Assorted thoughts on this thread.

If you want sympathy for being a widow with 4 kids, maybe state that earlier than page 7

National NHS pay bands with no adjustment for market rate in different areas is a ridiculous and inefficient waste and the fundamental cause of OP's problem

Tories aren't the problem with housing, NIMBYs are, it's just confusing because some of the NIMBYs are Tories

We need to teach economics in school if people seriously want to introduce rent controls

Clarie46 · 19/09/2023 16:47

Baconisdelicious · 19/09/2023 16:19

It's really sad to move away, but a lot of people either have to be skint in an expensive area or move to a more affordable area.

moving away is not the answer, though is it? there is a need for qualified professionals of all kinds in the south east, just as there is everywhere else. The point the OP is trying to make, I think, is that she should be able to live on her salary as a qualified professional, regardless of where she lives. Obviously, she is going to have more spare cash if she lives further north than the SE. If everyone leaves the SE, what then? Loads and loads of high earners with no childcare, no one to serve them coffee, no nurses to care for them or teachers in state schools.

I’m not sure the rest of the country would be very happy about subsiding expensive childcare and coffee shops for high earning Londoners, but housing should be provided for key essential workers

lavender2023 · 19/09/2023 16:49

Clarie46 · 19/09/2023 16:47

I’m not sure the rest of the country would be very happy about subsiding expensive childcare and coffee shops for high earning Londoners, but housing should be provided for key essential workers

London has been subsidizing the rest of the country for decades... Only London and the south are net contributors in terms of tax revenue.

horseyhorsey17 · 19/09/2023 16:56

Oliotya · 19/09/2023 16:33

Benefits entitlements are hardly a secret. Anyone can enter the info OP has volunteered and make an educated guess at what she receives...
We're allowed to discuss the adequacy of salaries but not benefits?

It's a guess, as you yourself say, and you're using it as a stick to beat her with. Classy.

Oliotya · 19/09/2023 17:01

horseyhorsey17 · 19/09/2023 16:56

It's a guess, as you yourself say, and you're using it as a stick to beat her with. Classy.

I don't think that's what's happening at all.
But why are we not supposed to discuss benefits? It seems rather relevant in this instance.

Wakintoblueskies · 19/09/2023 17:05

horseyhorsey17 · 19/09/2023 16:56

It's a guess, as you yourself say, and you're using it as a stick to beat her with. Classy.

To be frank, the only person who is not demonstrating any class on this thread is you and with your numerous repetitive name calling posts, some of which have even been deleted by MNHQ.

Teenangels · 19/09/2023 17:11

horseyhorsey17 · 19/09/2023 16:56

It's a guess, as you yourself say, and you're using it as a stick to beat her with. Classy.

It's not a guess even not knowing the OP area you can do a benefits calculator.

Over 2 grand income once rent is paid would be a dream to some.

Teenangels · 19/09/2023 17:12

horseyhorsey17 · 19/09/2023 16:25

What is this figure?

Let me guess - it's a sum that you and some other pearl-clutching right winger on here have imagined 'worked out' the OP actually brings in every month so you can feel justified in bitching about how she really should be able to manage?

Hopefully I'm wrong but given the poisonous responses on here so far, I bet I am not.

Benefits calculator on the GOV website.

Not hard try it yourself.

horseyhorsey17 · 19/09/2023 17:16

Teenangels · 19/09/2023 17:12

Benefits calculator on the GOV website.

Not hard try it yourself.

It's clearly inaccurate as your child benefit figure is wildly out.

Also - you have no idea what she's claiming and what she isn't, and frankly trying to guess in the worst possible faith isn't casting you in a good light.

horseyhorsey17 · 19/09/2023 17:17

Teenangels · 19/09/2023 17:11

It's not a guess even not knowing the OP area you can do a benefits calculator.

Over 2 grand income once rent is paid would be a dream to some.

Yeah including her as that figure is absolute bollocks.