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AIBU to not invite sister in law

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Gameofphonesx · 17/09/2023 22:15

Have three sinlaws, get along great with two, kids all get along and often meet up to vent about our in laws amongst general chit chat and just because we enjoy each others company. Third sinlaw is dh sister and somewhat socially awkward(?). She didn’t speak to me for the first 7 years, her own dad said she was just jealous of us because we were happy and she went from one loser bf to another. I tried to ignore it, trying killing it with kindness but eventually just got over trying. She had her first kid then that was it, suddenly she seemed a bit more interested in speaking to me and took a lot of baby paraphernalia from us. Thing is, I don’t need to be her friend but my in laws are constantly moaning about us not inviting her anywhere- but she rarely speaks to the other two or myself unless it’s about herself and it’s just tense with her there. Her and her bf don’t invite us anywhere or make an effort to ask about the kids or us yet we’re expected to invite her on weekends away that we organised between us, because they think we’re leaving her out- she leaves herself out! She’s been invited to days out and has refused, she turns up late if she does come and then will keep her distance so it doesn’t even feel like she enjoys it herself?! I feel it’s just too little too late to have the same relationship that the rest of us have, to the point where I feel awkward if we happen to be altogether at in-laws house for example. I don’t mind her but as far as I’m concerned, she’s had numerous chances to make an effort and she just doesn’t. I do feel for her in a way, but it just feels like my in-laws are forcing her on us a bit. It’s made a bit more tense as her ds is very bitey, pushy and generally terrorises the rest of the kids and they don’t like his behaviour towards them. I wouldn’t not invite her for that alone, but equally I don’t want to make the other kids and sinlaws uncomfortable by just inviting her everywhere. I thought this ‘leaving her out’ rubbish was over in school!!

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crumblylancs · 18/09/2023 13:26

I wouldn't be including her for the sake of it, why should you invite someone who's made it clear she doesn't want to be friends with you- social time is precious and when you're choosing who you spend time with it's for enjoyment, why should you feel awkward and on egg shells for someone who doesn't make any effort yet is now upset she's been left out.

Might be different if she's matured, realised her mistakes and is going out of her way to be nice to you/make plans/text but it doesn't sound that way at all, sounds more like she's sulked to her mum.

I'd ignore the requests and if anything else is said tell them in your eyes your meeting your friends, not a family get together

worriedandworries · 18/09/2023 13:55

Gameofphonesx · 18/09/2023 09:30

@Ragwort she involves herself! Gets a sniff that we might all have a day off together and starts complaining that we’re not inviting sinlaw before we’ve even planned anything 😂 Doesn’t complain to us though- one of my BILs gets it in the neck, it causes aggro between him and his wife, then we’re all pissed off. Ideal scenario would be sinlaw just sends a ‘going out to soft play, anyone wanna come?’ Then we would make an effort to meet her- she’s not a bad person. Just too much like her mother 😂.
@AnIndianWoman I don’t invite my own sister either, nor do the other sinlaws. My sister isn’t the slightest bit concerned??

@Gameofphonesx "Just too much like her mother" - you sound really nasty. Not only is that your kids Grandmother and Aunty, but that's also the family YOU chose to be in. Invite her and stop being such an arse, she's probably got crippling anxiety and devastated she not included in such a close knit family.

Also why would your sister want to come to your SIL group? she isnt a SIL 🙄

Gameofphonesx · 18/09/2023 13:59

@crumblylancs ‘Might be different if she's matured, realised her mistakes and is going out of her way to be nice to you/make plans/text but it doesn't sound that way at all, sounds more like she's sulked to her mum.’
This. This is exactly what I’m talking about. If she could only even just say to her brothers or parents, ‘I’m sorry, I know I’m awkward but I’d like to be invited’ then we’d be more inclined and we wouldn’t make a big deal of it either. PIL need to have everything made an ‘event’ of, full invitation and a fuss. Sometimes in conversation the others might say they want to try a play area or something and we’ll just say ‘oh yeah, we’ll try it next month’ or whatever but because sinlaw doesn’t even sit with us at her own parents house or meals out together then she can’t be involved in that part of the process. PIL have literally sat themselves separately at a table so to make us not sit together. They have literally told kids and husbands where to sit so we can’t naturally navigate towards each other. This pisses us off and makes us more determined: we won’t be dictated to like children.

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Gameofphonesx · 18/09/2023 14:00

Should be clear- to make sure me and my friends can’t sit together- they force too much that at least one of us is sat with her. Usually me because they know I’m more inclined to chat because I don’t like an uncomfortable silence 😂

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crumblylancs · 18/09/2023 14:03

Gameofphonesx · 18/09/2023 14:00

Should be clear- to make sure me and my friends can’t sit together- they force too much that at least one of us is sat with her. Usually me because they know I’m more inclined to chat because I don’t like an uncomfortable silence 😂

I got what you meant as soon as I read it 😅 they're daft- the more they force you apart, the more you will want to be together and be determined in doing it your own way. Sometimes, I hate the way the next generation up in the family still act like they're the adults and the adult children are there to do as they're told- more likely to make it go the other way!

Gameofphonesx · 18/09/2023 14:04

@worriedandworries if I’m so fucking nasty, why does anybody want to be my friend!!? 😂 Bollocks to anxiety and all that. She’s rude, unpleasant and jealous.
I chose to marry my husband in spite of his family. If it weren’t for me, he wouldn’t bother either because he’s like the rest of them- doesn’t plan a thing!

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crumblylancs · 18/09/2023 14:07

@Gameofphonesx

And you're not nasty- you're just not pandering to people, why should you be dictated to over who you spend your time with! It wouldn't be expected from anyone else so why should you include someone who will change the whole dynamic. I would be interested to know if anyone giving you shit on this thread would be happy with someone being invited on their social occasions who's spent years being a dick to them

Gameofphonesx · 18/09/2023 14:39

@crumblylancs saw my school bully the other day, made my life a misery. I’ll invite him along too one day 😂

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crumblylancs · 18/09/2023 14:40

Gameofphonesx · 18/09/2023 14:39

@crumblylancs saw my school bully the other day, made my life a misery. I’ll invite him along too one day 😂

More the merrier 😅 just make sure you sit the two delights together

whatwasthatgrandma · 18/09/2023 16:41

Lots of #bekind bollocks on this thread, telling OP to be nice, include the woman who has been rude, and nasty and does not really want to be included anyway! Telling her that her feelings don't matter, and her SIL's feelings matter so much....and that her SIL's that she gets on with are not even her "real" SIL and her only real one is the one that is a fucking nightmare and OP should do better.

It makes me sick, load of Stepford Wives balls.

ChubbyMorticia · 19/09/2023 05:47

I will never understand why people encourage others to set themselves on fire to keep someone else warm, just because faaaammmiiilllyyy.

Life’s too short to be miserable. Bringing SIL along would make three other people miserable/unhappy/uncomfortable, however you’d like to put it. Why is she more important than three other women?

If you want friends, you have to treat people decently. SIL has done the opposite, for YEARS and now whines to Mommy that the other girls don’t invite her to their parties, so Mommy runs in and starts trying to force everyone into inviting her precious snookums to their playdates.

Actions have consequences. It’s not on @Gameofphonesx to protect SIL from them.

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