To leave a £1.60 tip?

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Went out to our local pizzeria. Service was fine but they forgot to bring our olives to start. There was a service charge of 10%. Bill came to £43.40. So I said to the waiter, alright, maybe it £45?

So £1.60 tip plus £4.34 service. DP has chastised me all the way home and said how I embarrassed him. I should have left nothing yada yada.

In Italy or Spain, you only ever leave a few coins as a tip. So I presumed it would be fine to do with italians at a pizzeria!

I ask every time if they receive the service charge, to decide how much to pay, the majority of the time they say it does

https://www.simplybusiness.co.uk/knowledge/articles/2023/05/businesses-to-be-banned-from-keeping-staff-tips/

Tips and service charges must go to employees
The law means all tips and service charges must go to hospitality staff.

When is the new tipping law coming in?
These changes will be included in the Employment (Allocation of Tips) Bill, which was part of a public consultation in 2016. The Bill received Royal Assent on 2 May 2023.

The rules are likely to come into effect sometime in 2024, following a consultation and secondary legislat

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Your DP is an idiot. The service charge is the tip! I thought you asked them to remove the charge and tipped them £1.60.

Your husband sounds dense op

I wouldn't have left anything. The service charge IS the tip.

Why is your partner insisting you pay extra. If he was that bothered he should have paid it. What a sulky manchild.

For all who keep insisting that wait staff in the US have to rely on tips, there's now a minimum wage there too
Admittedly it's ptitiful at $2.13, but fortunately many states have chosen to pay vastly above it, except for 17 who are unsurprisingly mostly in the South

For example: California $15.50 Florida $7.98 District of Columbia $8

https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/state/minimum-wage/tipped

I usually ask for service charges to be removed.
I tip according to service & quality of food

It's now actually the law that100%of the service charge goes to staff

I thought it was 2024 that's due to come in (?), but doubt it'll make any difference to the claims of "The staff see nothing of it"

Overall, why get so involved in this? Isn't it simpler to just pay what you have to, add on anything you choose and leave the rest between the (usually very capable) staff and their managers?

starsparkle08
I used to as a carer brush shit out of residents teeth , so I don’t agree with tips . My dads now in that sort of situation and I’ve very clear on his care - and appreciate all they do as I’ve done it myself . Don’t worry about the tip it’s a choice .

Eugh did you have to go into such graphic detail? That's revolting thanks a lot

@ParentingSolo graphic ? Get a bloody grip for god sake . There's a lot more she could have said describing what carers have to do as part of the job. Hope you've got over being revolted.

I don’t think anyone else at all has mentioned it so far on the thread, but I believe the service charge IS the tip.

Your DH sounds like a knob.

@ParentingSolo

Don’t be so precious

That is the reality of what carers have to do.

Get over yourself

If there was already a service charge, I wouldn't have tipped anything. What was your £1.60 for??
I sometimes don't tip at all anyway these days - can be difficult if you haven't got cash on you.

In the UK they should be earning at least minimum wage. Many people, doing non tipped roles will be earning the same.

It isn't like in the US where many employees in tipped roles earn a lot less than when in a non-tipped role.

Service charge is a voluntary tip. And you're within your rights to get it taken off the bill and tip separately if you so wish

Service charge is voluntary. I always get it taken off and tip separately if I'm happy with the service

Service charge is discretionary. I always get it removed and tip only if I'm happy with the service. Restaurants are relying on customers being too embarrassed to ask for its removal

It IS. If it's included as part of the bill, you leave nothing extra UNLESS you feel you want to reward especially good service.

The service charge is the tip- no need to leave anything more unless they’ve done something really exceptional.

I might have left the coins if paying cash but I wouldn’t have rounded up on a card.

Those who consider the issue of whether the service charge is a tip or not a thorny one might want to avoid cruising ... on many, you get gratuities / tips / service charges and now, god help us, "customer appreciations" all used interchangeably according to what suits

Try picking the bits out of that!!