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Is there is no way for him to turn his life around?

63 replies

GamerProblem · 14/09/2023 23:02

Watching this situation with absolute despair and no idea what can be done.

He is 30 years old.

No job, no income, no real friends, virtually no qualifications, no motivation to do anything.

He plays video games every single day without a break until the early hours of the morning. It has been 3.5 years.

Says he’s too depressed to do anything, despite therapy and medication. Gets upset and aggressive when his family ask how they can help get him out of this rut.

How on earth can this situation be turned around??

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ThinWomansBrain · 15/09/2023 13:07

Whataretalkingabout · 15/09/2023 01:04

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Stompythedinosaur · 15/09/2023 13:13

There are definitely ways to move forwards, but he has to want to.

One thing to remember, is that action comes before motivation. You basically have to force yourself (with support) to get up and do things, before you start feeling motivated. Motivation is rarely going to arrive on its own.

If he would do it, I would think that a behavioural activation CBT course would be helpful. And I wonder if there is something he's motivated to do - it doesn't have to be getting a job, maybe something like a games convention or hobby club where he can meet people? He needs a reason for getting a routine and getting up and doing things.

I wonder if the parents can access a carers support group? They might find it helpful to talk to people in similar situations.

AlliterativeAlice · 15/09/2023 13:18

Isheabastard · 15/09/2023 13:01

As already mentioned by other poster this is so common in Japan it has a name Hikikamori.

Id suggest looking this up as it’s taken very seriously there. Im sure they have developed programs to help sufferers and their families deal with it.

I can understand the attraction of these MMORPG games in a way. An excellent escape from the difficulties of living, especially for younger people. They also get to socialise with their peers in the game. I might be tempted to join them.

LegendsBeyond · 15/09/2023 13:32

What a sad way to live. He needs tough love. He has money, so he needs to be given a deadline to find a flat or house share. Parents can help with the search. Then he’ll sink or swim on his own. At 30, he has to get out of that house.

Spellbounder · 15/09/2023 13:35

goody2shooz · 15/09/2023 00:31

Cancel the broadband.

That is the most ridiculous thing I’ve heard. He’s depressed , not an unruly 12 year old

AlliterativeAlice · 15/09/2023 14:02

LegendsBeyond · 15/09/2023 13:32

What a sad way to live. He needs tough love. He has money, so he needs to be given a deadline to find a flat or house share. Parents can help with the search. Then he’ll sink or swim on his own. At 30, he has to get out of that house.

It's not so easy to find a flat or house share at the moment, even with money. Landlords get dozens of applications so those with stable jobs will be at the front of the queue.

chaos76 · 15/09/2023 14:04

Sugarcoatt · 15/09/2023 10:59

Gaming is an addiction, and like other addictions, the addict can’t control it. There needs to be an intervention. Gaming limited to certain hours, strict bedtimes and getting up times (no sitting up half the night). A bit of exercise every day, and do something constructive even if it’s not a job. Maybe a short course, or take up a hobby. He is obviously depressed and needs help to explore that. Some sort of counselling where they actually talk about his issues. Not CBT or other structured approaches, it needs to be fairly unstructured and just focused on actually talking about whatever is bothering him.

This is what i was going to say, Research has shown Gaming changes how your brain works exactly like drugs

SpringViolet · 15/09/2023 14:53

chaos76 · 15/09/2023 14:04

This is what i was going to say, Research has shown Gaming changes how your brain works exactly like drugs

Problem is this is a 30 year old man with legal capacity who can’t be forced to do anything, assessments etc, let alone an enforced bedtime routine. He has to want to do it and after 3.5 years (which is a long time), he clearly won’t unless he’s put in a situation where he’s forced to himself by kicking him out of his comfort zone.

It’s often less mentally draining to give support from a distance (I.e when they’re living outside of the home).

SOS2023 · 15/09/2023 21:43

MrsSlocombe who will look after him in future? Or do you think he'll find his way to independent living?

alwaysmovingforwards · 15/09/2023 22:08

Whataretalkingabout · 15/09/2023 00:59

A good kick in the seat of his pants and out the door. He'll miraculously get his shit together and find a solution.

Yeah I'd agree.
The parents are enabling the situation to continue.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 15/09/2023 22:58

goody2shooz · 15/09/2023 00:31

Cancel the broadband.

Yes or change the password and he has to earn it each day when he has showered, down a couple of chores, been out for a walk and been polite to his parents

drspouse · 15/09/2023 23:35

I think the technical term for this in young adults is "failure to launch". The author of this book is doing research on how to get boomerang children to be independent:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Breaking-Free-Child-Anxiety-Scientifically/dp/0190883529/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3EM3KNTOH0N1S&keywords=breaking+free+of+child+anxiety+and+ocd&qid=1694817305&sprefix=breaking+free+of%2Caps%2C217&sr=8-1

LakeTiticaca · 16/09/2023 09:31

His parents are enabling him. Hes too comfortable. Finding his belongings outside and the locks changed might just concentrate his mind

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