To think that gut health will become a huge focus in the next decade?

[KenAdams]

I'm seeing more and more people looking for ways to improve their gut health.

I have endo and going GF has been one of the most helpful things pain wise.

AIBU to think we're on the cusp of a gut health revolution here? Fingers crossed that it will drive companies to come up with better tasting GF food as well as some of it is dreadful!

Agree with all this. Especially Tim and his vegan agenda.

I‘ve only just discovered how bad rapeseed and other veg oils are. They are literally in everything and very bad for gut health!

@Delatron

It’s certainly not going to cause anyone any harm (like certain trendy diets) to eat more variety of plants, less ultra processed foods and more fermented foods.

Some groups do have to avoid fermented foods and they can harm them.
People with compromised immune systems, candida overgrowth, histamine intolerance and some kinds of digestive issues etc.

Keto worked amazingly for me...and I had tried all the gut healthy food out there. I was even buying the a loaf of fermented bread made with teff flour that was €25 a loaf. Loads of people swear by it but it didn't work for me even though every single ingredient in my diet was planned for optimal nutrition at the time.

Started keto (and dirty keto at that) and it fixed all the inflammation in my body which healed my gut.

For those who are suffering from chronic inflammation sometimes keto is the only thing that seems to work.

100% - your gut is your second brain.

Yep, sometimes anti-depressants are prescribed for IBS!

Definitely my bowel condition I take tablets and probiotics for but still have issues with food but haven’t tried eliminating things yet.
Also so many take omprezole yet acid reflux is high risk for throat cancer

Mum - is that you! Get off the internet now please! (my mum is an 88 year old biologist who despairs of her children - 1x strict vegetarian for 40 years and the other a pescatarian who has been gluten-free for 5 years and is quite obsessed by this. Luckily Granny has a normal (in HHO) GC who eats everything!). Food nutrition is a big part of our conversations.

But yes when I look at her and my dad. Both lecturers in an FE college for decades - one taught biology and the other catering and Hotel management. Currently there is such little understanding of what healthy food is, or other health practices. The "processing" is awful. But also an understanding of what causes problems. My colleague has an appropriate food certificate for providing food to the public, yet cannot understand that if their child has an infectious bug they and their child need to not be in contact with others.

It's already a big thing. Has been in news and magazines for about a decade now with serious studies and interest.

Following a bug food poisoning? Nine days later I'm still bloated, gassy, nauseous. Off to buy some actimel this morning.

@Puffling235 what you've said is my understanding too. I've had to work quite hard to eliminate those bastarding seed oils, there were lurking in quite a lot of my "healthy" foods.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9786924/

It all started in the 1680's - but even before then......"Our ancestors observed that there was a link between digestion and emotions, mood, and behaviour 3]. The faecal transplant has been used in Chinese traditional medicine since the Dong-jin dynasty and in Ancient Greece 4,5]. The transplantation was also researched in 17th century by Fabricius Acquapendente 6]. We can observe usage of milk products as a remedy for gastrointestinal problems in the works of Hippocrates, Avicenna, Galen, and Pliny the Elder, and the Bible 7]"

Proving nothing is new in this world, that wasn't noted previously, but then lost by modern innovation, which was not necessarily for the better.

I think actimel is just overpriced product with good advertising tbh. Get polish kefir if they have it and you get good thing gor fraction of the price

And actimel has lots of sugar in it.

Not the plain one. That one weirdly has sweeteners wtf for?

Symprove looks extremely expensive.

How long are you suposed to use it for?

They recommend you take it daily for at least 3 months to see a difference. I've been taking it for almost 2 years now and swear by it.

You can get 50% off for your first 3 months to try it:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/promo-codes-bargains/4743605-50-off-symprove-for-gut-health-for-3-months?reply=128790344

Ha that’s even worse!

And flavourings. What the actual... I had no idea until I looked. I thought it was just overpriced kefir😂

I take a probiotic daily has made a huge difference

What’s a good alternative to seed oils that has a high smoke point? I don’t use olive oil in my cooking (curries) because of the low smoke point

@KenAdams how about ghee or coconut oil?

Yeah I’m thinking about ghee. Will need to look into whether it’s ok in terms of cholesterol etc

I thought seed oils were considered finr in standard home vooking since normally people don't heat them up 5x and use very little . I am sure I saw some harvard or similar study couple of years back

@Wanderingllama the issue with seed oils is that they mostly are low in omega 3 and high in omega 6, and also that they are highly processed and hence cause inflammation.

I have to admit I go round and round in circles over what is the best oil to cook with. For a while I used coconut oil. I’ve gone back to olive oil but I know the smoke point is the issue. Maybe pure butter is the best!

I thought that cold pressed rapeseed oil was ok? Rapeseed oil in processed foods is ultra processed but I’m sure I read that the cold pressed stuff was ok.