to think this mother irresponsible

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Or am I being judgmental again?

here

Yup. YABU. And don't read the Daily Mail it's bad for you. At 15 I was doing all kinds of shit I shouldn't have and maybe you were too.

The person you need to judge in this case as all of them is the fucker who raped and killed her and not the woman who is grieving.

I'd take my ds around the world, not 6 kids though. It must be like hell for her though to loose a child this way. It doesn't matter how it happened or if she was irresponsible, she's still lost a child.

Leaving my 15yo with an older man I didn't know whilst I finished my holiday is not something I would do.

But, pretty sure that now is the right time to judge anyway.

Yes you are

There are many different ways of bringing up your children, many ways of doing things, and you can't judge everyone by your own standards.

Are you a bit that she left her DD, a 15 yr old, with a 20 yr old man?? I am a bit about that. Difficult to know what the situation was, did she really leave her with him or with his family??

irresponsible or not she has still lost a child in terrible circumstances.

Monkeybird your right about the DM.

And yes, I was also doing all kinds of shit when I was 15 - the difference in my case though was that my mother didn't know I was doing it and allow me to do it.

Now I feel that I'm using this story as an excuse to make myself look good (oh I'd never do this blah de blah) how sad is that.

yabu

Whatever the situation was, you can bet the Daily Mail is not the place to find out.

Where's the sense in judging a woman who has lost a child in the most horrific circumstances?

Hindsight is always 20/20.

wholly unreasoanble.a devastated mother is grieving,a family ripped apart,they need our compassion, empathy.

so take a deep breath, and be thankful your children are safe, alive. spare your judgments- not constructive

don't read the daily mail it is toxic brain rot

StripeyMamaSpanx - such a moving emotional thread

Was she your son's girlfriend SMS?

irresponsible?no,the girl was 15,not 9

teh motehr was obviously living a "different" life style, travelling the world with 6 kids and probably felt the 15 year old was grown up enough.
devastating for her.

Just wanted to show that the family in question are people, with lives and friends and values and feelings, not just a news story there for us to judge and tut over.

Should say that I don't know them personally but had been reading that thread and felt terribly sad for everyone who has been affected by the ragedy.

tragedy even

I agree totally. As a student paeds nurse, the death of a child is a very, very sad thing, her family will be going through hell and I don't think that threads like this are very sensitive. It doesn't matter why her family are there, their lifestyle or anything else, a precious child is no longer here and that's what's important.

this mum wont feel grief differently , because she has isn't necessarily like us

YABU. Hardly the time to be judging a mother who's lost a child is it? No parent is perfect, we all make mistakes that we live to later regret. I'm sure this poor woman is punishing herself enough for leaving her daughter without other people being so righteous.

YABTOTALLYU Do yourself a favour, find a better paper to read.

YABU, it's horribly tragic. It's very judgmental to critisise and TYPICAL of Mums to do this, we're all so quick to point the finger (McCanns case ring any bells?)

Just don't read this abosolute facist crap, it spouts s**t

ahemPeaceLily typical of some mums to judge Yes, this thread is advocating non-judemental stance and deriding the Daily Mail as a source of "news"

YABU. Personally I would not have but then I wouldnt have the get up and go to take 6 kids back packing to Goa either. They had a different not bad lifestyle and made choices relevant to that. Poor girl and poor mother.

YAB(very)U.

I saw the head line and that was enough for me to decide yabu.

This woman has lost her child.

Leave it.

You know yabu, why ask?