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Am I the problem or is this mansplaining??

60 replies

thesockfairydidit · 03/09/2023 11:12

My partner does this:

Me: So we will never know if it’s a cumulative effect in the body overtime or not!

Him: Well, we won’t know if we eat a bit today if it stays inside our body building up over time or excreted straight away.

Me: I just said exactly that!!

Him: that’s taking part in conversation….storms off accusing me of saying he is mansplaining (again)

his dad does it too….repeats back what I just said but in slow words to make sure I understand but it’s exactly what I’ve said but in a way that suggests he is educating me with new information.

my AIBU is am I getting conversations wrong and they are just reflecting back politely or are they mansplaining? All I know is I get the absolute rage in a way I never get with other people?!

I tend to say I just said that? My Partners dad looks confused when I say that and then repeats himself until I nod politely but my partner gets the rage with me if I pull him up saying I’m the problem and it’s normal conversation. Is it me??

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PuppyMonkey · 03/09/2023 11:38

Sounds like he didn’t understand what you were saying.

thesockfairydidit · 03/09/2023 11:39

JapaneseSlipper · 03/09/2023 11:34

People who start all their sentences with “no” by default are the worst. Even when they actually parrot back exactly what you just said. They’ve already decided you’re stupid before you’ve even said your piece.

Yes this, his dad does this to everything and it makes me want to shout! Why did you say “no!” What is it about I said that is wrong” when you just said the same thing” I’m wondering if a whole day with the inlaws yesterday has made me super sensitive and I had bitten my tongue for too long when he caught me in a grump this morning. This has been very helpful

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Lovingitallnow · 03/09/2023 11:39

I don't think he's mansplaining I think he's just not listening to you and then thinks his contribution is new.

Thelnebriati · 03/09/2023 11:39

Its not mansplaining, it's called "hepeating".

MasterBeth · 03/09/2023 11:40

From your example, it sounds like you may talk/explain/understand in a more abstract way and he talks/explains/understands in a more concrete way, so that he has to translate/verbalise what you said before he can understand it.

You already know what you mean, so you hear his words as repetition/ not listening. He is hearing your ideas for the first time, so is thinking through/verbalising the meaning, in a way that helps him get it.

This becomes interpreted as rude and gendered as "mansplaining", but maybe it's neither

thesockfairydidit · 03/09/2023 11:40

Thelnebriati · 03/09/2023 11:39

Its not mansplaining, it's called "hepeating".

Love this 🤣

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thesockfairydidit · 03/09/2023 11:41

MasterBeth · 03/09/2023 11:40

From your example, it sounds like you may talk/explain/understand in a more abstract way and he talks/explains/understands in a more concrete way, so that he has to translate/verbalise what you said before he can understand it.

You already know what you mean, so you hear his words as repetition/ not listening. He is hearing your ideas for the first time, so is thinking through/verbalising the meaning, in a way that helps him get it.

This becomes interpreted as rude and gendered as "mansplaining", but maybe it's neither

thank you!! Really helpful

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LittleFroglets · 03/09/2023 11:41

My female friends have never made me feel like that…
I think you are generally irritated with him but your irritation is showing via conversations. It won't be long before his chewing will become extra loud or even his breathing, sneezing or blowing of nose will make you twitch. Start looking at your relationship as a whole, has anything changed lately so chores, childcare, money are not equal anymore?

nfkl · 03/09/2023 11:43

Don t bother too much about being right or valid, at this stage, seems your instinct has kicked in.
Simply ask your partner "I feel that repeating back is really taking the energy and the fun out of our conversations, could you do something about it please?"
Check how he reacts.
If he s a good partner, he ll take it in his stride and will try to do something about it.

If he does not react well/ignores, there s something not nice happening there.

Thelnebriati · 03/09/2023 11:44

Ask him if he would consider couples counselling. He could learn to converse in a different way, and learn to manage conflict differently.

MasterBeth · 03/09/2023 11:46

nfkl · 03/09/2023 11:43

Don t bother too much about being right or valid, at this stage, seems your instinct has kicked in.
Simply ask your partner "I feel that repeating back is really taking the energy and the fun out of our conversations, could you do something about it please?"
Check how he reacts.
If he s a good partner, he ll take it in his stride and will try to do something about it.

If he does not react well/ignores, there s something not nice happening there.

What an extraordinary way to talk to your partner!

BreatheAndFocus · 03/09/2023 11:47

I don’t think it’s necessarily mansplaining. It could be he/they are kind of repeating what you’ve said but in their own words as a form of processing the information. The fact your partner says he’s just having a conversation suggests this (unless he’s winding you up).

I’d just reply in a neutral confirmatory way:

”Yes, exactly. I’m glad we agree.”

NIparty · 03/09/2023 11:47

Birch101 · 03/09/2023 11:25

If you do think it's mansplaining I would just say lovely so you do agree with me, glad you agree with me, nice to have you on board, so glad you see if from my perspective 🤣

I'm stealing this!

RedHelenB · 03/09/2023 11:49

WhineWhineWhineWINE · 03/09/2023 11:25

Maybe he's simplifying and clarifying for his own understanding? Then your response to it is what turns it into an argument?

This.

DrFoxtrot · 03/09/2023 11:51

What if you then said exactly the same back to him? 😂 keep it going and see how many times the same sentence gets said.

MiddleParking · 03/09/2023 11:51

nfkl · 03/09/2023 11:43

Don t bother too much about being right or valid, at this stage, seems your instinct has kicked in.
Simply ask your partner "I feel that repeating back is really taking the energy and the fun out of our conversations, could you do something about it please?"
Check how he reacts.
If he s a good partner, he ll take it in his stride and will try to do something about it.

If he does not react well/ignores, there s something not nice happening there.

Nah, sorry but it doesn’t make you a bad partner if you’d respond to that with ‘fuck off’. It would be an eminently reasonable response.

MasterBeth · 03/09/2023 11:53

MiddleParking · 03/09/2023 11:51

Nah, sorry but it doesn’t make you a bad partner if you’d respond to that with ‘fuck off’. It would be an eminently reasonable response.

Yes, I would also inject some fun "fuck off" energy into that conversation!

InSpainTheRain · 03/09/2023 11:57

Not being horrible about your DH or making excuses for him - but does he actually understand what you say? Is this for his own benefit?

zurala · 03/09/2023 11:58

My DH does this. It drives me mad mainly because he then looks to me to say something else but I don't know what because he hasn't advanced the conversation at all. So then I'm effectively just talking to myself.

I've tried explaining this to him and asking him to add to the conversation but he doesn't seem capable (although he used to be before we had children).

I don't have any answers. I think some of it is processing information in a different way as a pp said. It is true that I'm more intelligent than my DH. Is that true for you OP? If so you may just have to live with it and appreciate that he's trying to understand what you're talking about.

I now save my conversations for my friends, and just do mundane chat with DH but it does make me sad that we aren't very compatible intellectually.

Truemilk · 03/09/2023 12:04

My partner does exactly the same but when I say to him 'that's exactly what I just said' we both laugh and wind each other up... so I guess your dp's reaction is more the issue here

Thelonelygiraffe · 03/09/2023 12:24

Thelnebriati · 03/09/2023 11:39

Its not mansplaining, it's called "hepeating".

😂😂

Sparkletastic · 03/09/2023 12:25

Loving 'hepeating'. I've deffo EC

Sparkletastic · 03/09/2023 12:26

*experienced this

nfkl · 03/09/2023 12:31

MiddleParking · 03/09/2023 11:51

Nah, sorry but it doesn’t make you a bad partner if you’d respond to that with ‘fuck off’. It would be an eminently reasonable response.

I m not afraid to challenge my man and set my standards

If you put it to them the right way (the way a man can get inspired by), you ll see results: either you ll see he s taking it in or he s truly useless.

I d never be in a relationship with a guy whose first reaction is to dismiss me.
When I talk in my own relationship, how weird/out there it may sound initially to him, I am going to be heard with respect.
I can be right, I can be wrong, we can talk, but heard I will be.

Not going to spend ages sitting on my hands not saying anything if something bothers me or go for a guy who doesn t listen, because it puts frustration, nagging and resentment into the DNA of your relationship, and it may take you a while to realise he actually doesn t care at all

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