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Feeling like dp doesn’t do enough?

43 replies

Pinnapho13 · 02/09/2023 20:40

Just want some honest opinions - no feelings hurt. Sorry this will be long

My do of 8 years, is constantly working and I have the role of being the ‘full time’ mum that does all the physical things with the children. I’m happy to be able to do everything with my kids and wouldn’t want anyone else to anyway as I feel it’s my responsibility, however, I do think dp could be more involved.

it has always been on me to do the physical raising of the kids, even when they were babies I did 99% of everything. I never got time to myself, he wouldn’t watch them for an hour for me to go out for a walk or to the shops etc or do anything. now they are of school age I have more independence back however I rely on school for that. He’s never come home and said ‘go out for an hour and have some time to yourself’ etc. every single day I am by myself with the kids while he works.

he works every day. He has his own business and doesn’t take 1 day off a week. Fair enough he comes home during the afternoon on weekdays, this time he uses to nap and catch up on sleep, then he is back out for his evening shift. He starts work at 6am and finishes at 10pm. 2 days of the week he might finish early and have the evening off.

he says this is how we are set up, that he works and I do the ‘woman’s role’. To be honest it was never my intention to just be a sahm for this long. I haven’t been able to go back to work because I didn’t have his help with the kids, no childcare and couldn’t afford the childcare anyway. Now they are in school I need to get a job that works around school time.

he is extremely successful with his business and as he gets to work ridiculous amounts of hours with no worry about looking after his kids, he has saved a ton of money over the years. As he does not have his passport yet we are unable to go on holiday or travel, we can’t get a mortgage, and basically can’t really progress at the moment. For legal reasons he has to wait another 5 years before he might get his passport. So his plan in the meantime is to continue working as much as he is and continue saving a ton of money.

I 100% appreciate he’s the most hard working man I have known, he is extremely motivated and is doing this for our children’s future. But after 8 years of being together and our relationship hasn’t really progressed and I’m still kind of just stuck around waiting for him. The idea of waiting another 5+ years before we can travel as a family, or progress and get a house etc it’s a little frustrating. Especially as this leaves me feeling stuck as I wouldn’t be able to afford to rent somewhere by myself even if I worked full time. If I worked full time I would need to pay for extra childcare outside of school hours and it just wouldn’t financially be great for me.

we rarely spend time together. The past year has been the most time he spends with me since the children were born. We went away in the uk for 5 days 4 months ago and as he had to take 5 days off work he’s been back working extremely hard to make up for that lost time. Which in my opinion is ridiculous with the amount of money he has it’s not needed.

he recently signed me and the children to a club that allows them to go to lessons while I swim or workout. I did not ask for this but appreciate it as it’s very helpful for me mentally, for the kids physically and is extremely expensive. Although I thought there were better uses for that money. I asked him recently if I get a job could we move and rent somewhere better. He shut me down and said he wants to continue where we are so he can save as much as possible.

He has spent little times with us recently, we have gone swimming as a family twice and spent a few evenings together after he finished work. He hasn’t given me much attention lately. I mention this to him and he says he’s really busy with work, that he’s had a headache etc. today is Saturday night, he started work at 7am, he should have finished at 5pm. It’s now 8:30pm, the kids are in bed and I’m here alone he is still not home. I don’t have the luxury of going to work knowing my kids are looked after, or not coming home for hours after work because I know my children are looked after. I don’t have a clue what he’s up to, I never do as he does not talk or ever send me a message. The only time he texts me is when he wants to tell me to do something, such as cook him something before he gets back home.

I have cooked all of his meals ahead for the week for him, I have baked him his favourite cake that he has been wanting, I have cleaned and tidied, I have taken the kids to a sport lesson and park and now I am here all alone. It’s easy to forget when you have children keeping you busy but when I’m alone it hits me. If he is so busy and tired that he can’t spend time or give me attention, then why is he not home on time after work?

I should also add, recently during an argument he told me he will not put all of his eggs into my basket. Yesterday after I mentioned that I want us to move and rent somewhere better he told me that he’s got ‘one foot in one foot out’ with me and not sure about me…. Now I am used to him saying hurtful things during arguments but I am getting bothered by those statements. How much longer can I wait living like this not knowing where I’m going in the future?

I should add little things bother me too, such as he has a car but I have to take kids on busses and public transport every day since they were born. It’s hard work but I get on with it. When the bus decides to terminate and we are stuck on random road have to wait for another bus to get home, or yesterday we waited 1 hour for a bus and missed the children’s sports lesson and I tried to call him but can’t get through. All these things make it more difficult. He refuses ti share his car with me, even though I have my license years before him, he uses it every day ofcourse but as my partner should he not help me more? He will drive us home occasionally when needed but most of time I am alone in this.

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gamerchick · 02/09/2023 20:46

I think if you read that back, you pretty much know what the answer is OP

He's literally told you he not sure if you're his forever partner. I couldn't come back from that

For now, if he's so minted, tell him you want your own car. When he says no, you'll probably reach tipping point.

NeedToThinkOfOne · 02/09/2023 21:05

I 100% appreciate he’s the most hard working man I have known, he is extremely motivated and is doing this for our children’s future.

I’m guessing these are more or less his words, not yours.

When you say he’s saving all this money, is it in a joint account? Actually, no need to reply to that one, I think I can guess…

Your situation sounds bound by visa or residency terms? If you’re not married or own any property together, did you have your children together whilst he was under the restricted visa terms? You need legal advice and lots of it.

Or are you not really asking for advice on how to leave? Does it just help you to write it all down? So maybe read your original post back OP, what advice would you give to someone who wrote that about themselves?

Haddawanman · 02/09/2023 21:06

This is no way to live and I assume he has another family. It is bonkers to not leave him. Poor you and your kids. You need to show them this isn't how life is.

Totaly · 02/09/2023 21:12

He has another family or another woman.

You have very little in this relationship. If you were a single mom you would get a lot more help than you realize-

Why are you supporting a man who isn’t sharing the benefits?

Pinnapho13 · 02/09/2023 21:19

Haddawanman · 02/09/2023 21:06

This is no way to live and I assume he has another family. It is bonkers to not leave him. Poor you and your kids. You need to show them this isn't how life is.

No he does not have another family, we are still quite young

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Totaly · 02/09/2023 21:20

So why are you supporting him and his career? You are getting nothing or barely scraps. You need to leave.

Pinnapho13 · 02/09/2023 21:20

Totaly · 02/09/2023 21:12

He has another family or another woman.

You have very little in this relationship. If you were a single mom you would get a lot more help than you realize-

Why are you supporting a man who isn’t sharing the benefits?

He doesn’t have another family, we had children together ‘quite’ young. I saw quite - we were in our 20s, now in our late 20s.

he just sees value in money whereas I see value in time

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WeightoftheWorld · 02/09/2023 21:20

Totaly · 02/09/2023 21:12

He has another family or another woman.

You have very little in this relationship. If you were a single mom you would get a lot more help than you realize-

Why are you supporting a man who isn’t sharing the benefits?

Yeah sorry, I usually roll my eyes when people jump to affair etc on MN but your thread rings huge alarm bells for me. I take it he is an immigrant then, from a country with a completely different culture and religious background I am guessing? Does he have no other family here in the UK?

I'm sorry OP but I really think you and your kids are gonna end up shafted here. You're not married so none of his money is going to get to you. You need to see a solicitor and start quietly getting your affairs in order. This is no way to live and better to cut your losses as early as possible.

SOSWhen · 02/09/2023 21:22

What do you mean DP doesn’t do enough - he doesn’t do anything @Pinnapho13 He doesn’t even fund a nice lifestyle as you have no car and no say in where you live. I wouldn’t put up with the way he treats you or with no contact during the day especially when you’re a SAHM. He sounds mean and controlling

Pinnapho13 · 02/09/2023 21:24

Totaly · 02/09/2023 21:20

So why are you supporting him and his career? You are getting nothing or barely scraps. You need to leave.

I mean… you are right. This is what I am now questioning.

I have supported him to get to this stage. He does not see it that way though.

he promises this great future for us, all this working is for the future of our family. I know this is true but he doesn’t seem to care that I’m stuck waiting around until that happens. i guess he is not bothered as it works well for him at the moment but he is not seeing that I don’t get much from this NOW. Even if he doesn’t provide a great FUTURE for me.

to be fair, our lives would have progressed by now however some Legal issues happened on his side that has pushed it back another few years. This is genuinely no fault of his own and is a result of things happening to him as a child.

me being so in love I would do anything for him and be here to support him but it’s getting draining now

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Feverly · 02/09/2023 21:30

Whose name is the tenancy in? Has he been at least paying in to a pension for you while you’ve been out of the workforce for years?
You’re legally single, with zero of the protections that married couples have, so you need to secure your future, your boyfriend isn’t into you and you’re choosing to be really vulnerable being dependent on him.

Dotcheck · 02/09/2023 21:30

OP
Its like you’ve had no input into your life. Depressing read.

Get a job- there’s no reason why he can’t help pay for childcare when needed.

Feverly · 02/09/2023 21:37

(In short, get a job, secure housing for yourself, the man can pay half of childcare costs, or, parent his kids. If he refuses to parent at least 50%, he’ll owe his kids maintenance. Obviously dump him, whatever this mess is is not a relationship.)

wideawakeyetagain · 02/09/2023 22:09

From ur post it sounds like u are his maid don't cook his food or do anything for him tell him to do it wen he's home don't ask him to watch the kids just leave them with him and go out

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 02/09/2023 22:22

Aaaargh - you’ve got into a bit of a mess, haven’t you?

Absolute golden rule is don’t sacrifice you career and earning potential for a bloke to enhance his, whilst you look after joint children, unless you are married.

All that money he’s storing up - because you’ve done all the childcare and everything else that comes with being a family - none of it is yours. It’s all his.

Redruby2020 · 02/09/2023 23:24

Wow this really riled me reading your post, and so many thoughts came to mind.

Firstly I was about to say he's not Albanian is he lol, but then when you said the bit about travelling and a passport, that swayed my mind as those with legal stay here usually have visa's and can travel on those.

I mean my ex was quite something and I found out just what a something he was when we had our DC, and he was abusive to ice the cake, but gosh! Even he did more than this!
He did not work hard or have the same type of job/hours your DP has though, even if he had put his head down and built a better life/future.

Like many posts where this is said, he is working away, building a good future for himself ultimately and paying his contributions etc, then you've got you who has got nothing if you are relying solely on him. Are you even married?!

Great to save and ok if you know what he is saving for, but otherwise he is focusing on his possible other future. How will he 'obtain' this passport? Are you involved in any of that.
I just wonder even though he may have dropped in insults about he's not sure about you etc and it coinciding with times you pull him up on things.
But also he is giving you an insight that he does not maybe plan to stay with you.
Do you think men like this would sit there like you are and be told such things and live with such doubt, not a chance in hell!

Also I hope he is not finishing work and not returning soon after, often, as I had all that and that is just another example of taking advantage of the situation.

Also up until now wrap around childcare would have been possible as you would both be paying for it, if he has all this money you say.

Well going forward you need to think of yourself and your children, and about living life away from this man.

It's all lovely that he set this thing up for you that you mention but it's all under his control and his terms.
And there is nothing for you to do on your own/away from the kids.

Pinnapho13 · 03/09/2023 12:33

Redruby2020 · 02/09/2023 23:24

Wow this really riled me reading your post, and so many thoughts came to mind.

Firstly I was about to say he's not Albanian is he lol, but then when you said the bit about travelling and a passport, that swayed my mind as those with legal stay here usually have visa's and can travel on those.

I mean my ex was quite something and I found out just what a something he was when we had our DC, and he was abusive to ice the cake, but gosh! Even he did more than this!
He did not work hard or have the same type of job/hours your DP has though, even if he had put his head down and built a better life/future.

Like many posts where this is said, he is working away, building a good future for himself ultimately and paying his contributions etc, then you've got you who has got nothing if you are relying solely on him. Are you even married?!

Great to save and ok if you know what he is saving for, but otherwise he is focusing on his possible other future. How will he 'obtain' this passport? Are you involved in any of that.
I just wonder even though he may have dropped in insults about he's not sure about you etc and it coinciding with times you pull him up on things.
But also he is giving you an insight that he does not maybe plan to stay with you.
Do you think men like this would sit there like you are and be told such things and live with such doubt, not a chance in hell!

Also I hope he is not finishing work and not returning soon after, often, as I had all that and that is just another example of taking advantage of the situation.

Also up until now wrap around childcare would have been possible as you would both be paying for it, if he has all this money you say.

Well going forward you need to think of yourself and your children, and about living life away from this man.

It's all lovely that he set this thing up for you that you mention but it's all under his control and his terms.
And there is nothing for you to do on your own/away from the kids.

No he is not Albanian, although there are cultural differences in they way we have been brought up, generally we are on the same page and have both been raised in the uk so not much difference.

with obtaining his passport, it is not something I can help him with, even though I have tried.

you’re right, I rely solely on him and that needs to change

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Pinnapho13 · 03/09/2023 12:37

Oh on top of this, he has told me last night that I am useless, have nothing going for me and he doesn’t want to do it with me anymore (talking about sex).

this is not an issue with my looks, as he has said I am attractive and his type, it’s rather he doesn’t like my ‘mentality’ that I don’t have anything going for me. He keeps complaining that I have just been on my computer a lot the past week. He has no idea that I am actually doing lots of research to start my own business. Although I don’t tell him this because he would just criticise me

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Feverly · 03/09/2023 15:28

It doesn’t matter what he thinks or says. Focus on yourself. Housing, employment.

Pinnapho13 · 07/09/2023 17:11

Totaly · 02/09/2023 21:20

So why are you supporting him and his career? You are getting nothing or barely scraps. You need to leave.

So today I had to pick the kids up from school, walk to the bus stop wait 25 minutes in 32 degrees heat with 2 kids and all the school bags, when the bus came there were around 50 secondary school kids that would not move out of our way to get into the bus so we missed it. Then had to wait another 15 minutes in the heat. Finally on the bus I fed the kids their food before we got to their sports clubs they are booked into.

I ended up texting dp (he was home today does not start work until 5pm). I text him a short paragraph stating what happened with the busses and that I want to move to a different area, I want to progress, I want to start working and get a car and I will do it with or without him.

he finally replied and completely ignored the paragraph simply just asked if we were late to the kids clubs as he’d cancel them if we were.

I sent multiple messages after asking if he had read my previous paragraph and why he’s not responding to it and he said I am causing him anxiety and he got stressed reading that message…

he gets stressed and anxiety just reading what happened yet I am living these scenarios everyday

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MatildaTheCat · 07/09/2023 17:21

I want to move to a different area, I want to progress, I want to start working and get a car and I will do it with or without him.

I would gently suggest that this is what gave him ‘anxiety’, not the thought of you struggling in the heat. In other words, ‘shut up woman, I don’t want to hear you whinging so I will stop you by telling you you are making me feel unwell.’

Take proper advice from Women’s Aid or a similar organisation and make plans to leave. This man is going to treat you badly forever. You are young and can have a far better life free from all of this.

Pinnapho13 · 07/09/2023 17:27

MatildaTheCat · 07/09/2023 17:21

I want to move to a different area, I want to progress, I want to start working and get a car and I will do it with or without him.

I would gently suggest that this is what gave him ‘anxiety’, not the thought of you struggling in the heat. In other words, ‘shut up woman, I don’t want to hear you whinging so I will stop you by telling you you are making me feel unwell.’

Take proper advice from Women’s Aid or a similar organisation and make plans to leave. This man is going to treat you badly forever. You are young and can have a far better life free from all of this.

i would have understood this, if it had all just been sprung onto him out of nowhere.

however, he has been ready for us to progress in our lives for many years now. He is just avoiding it because it benefits himself at the moment.

the last week he had made comments every day to me that he will leave me and move out and I’ll be stuck on benefits etc. last night when angry he told me he will leave me and get himself a mortgage in his name.

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Shoxfordian · 07/09/2023 17:31

Not being married and relying on him for everything has put you in a really difficult position. It doesn’t seem like he’s on your team really

TimeForTeaAndG · 07/09/2023 17:35

Pinnapho13 · 07/09/2023 17:27

i would have understood this, if it had all just been sprung onto him out of nowhere.

however, he has been ready for us to progress in our lives for many years now. He is just avoiding it because it benefits himself at the moment.

the last week he had made comments every day to me that he will leave me and move out and I’ll be stuck on benefits etc. last night when angry he told me he will leave me and get himself a mortgage in his name.

I believe he will. You will have no claim on his savings and he will fuck off into the sunset leaving you with nothing.

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