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Feeling like dp doesn’t do enough?

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Pinnapho13 · 02/09/2023 20:40

Just want some honest opinions - no feelings hurt. Sorry this will be long

My do of 8 years, is constantly working and I have the role of being the ‘full time’ mum that does all the physical things with the children. I’m happy to be able to do everything with my kids and wouldn’t want anyone else to anyway as I feel it’s my responsibility, however, I do think dp could be more involved.

it has always been on me to do the physical raising of the kids, even when they were babies I did 99% of everything. I never got time to myself, he wouldn’t watch them for an hour for me to go out for a walk or to the shops etc or do anything. now they are of school age I have more independence back however I rely on school for that. He’s never come home and said ‘go out for an hour and have some time to yourself’ etc. every single day I am by myself with the kids while he works.

he works every day. He has his own business and doesn’t take 1 day off a week. Fair enough he comes home during the afternoon on weekdays, this time he uses to nap and catch up on sleep, then he is back out for his evening shift. He starts work at 6am and finishes at 10pm. 2 days of the week he might finish early and have the evening off.

he says this is how we are set up, that he works and I do the ‘woman’s role’. To be honest it was never my intention to just be a sahm for this long. I haven’t been able to go back to work because I didn’t have his help with the kids, no childcare and couldn’t afford the childcare anyway. Now they are in school I need to get a job that works around school time.

he is extremely successful with his business and as he gets to work ridiculous amounts of hours with no worry about looking after his kids, he has saved a ton of money over the years. As he does not have his passport yet we are unable to go on holiday or travel, we can’t get a mortgage, and basically can’t really progress at the moment. For legal reasons he has to wait another 5 years before he might get his passport. So his plan in the meantime is to continue working as much as he is and continue saving a ton of money.

I 100% appreciate he’s the most hard working man I have known, he is extremely motivated and is doing this for our children’s future. But after 8 years of being together and our relationship hasn’t really progressed and I’m still kind of just stuck around waiting for him. The idea of waiting another 5+ years before we can travel as a family, or progress and get a house etc it’s a little frustrating. Especially as this leaves me feeling stuck as I wouldn’t be able to afford to rent somewhere by myself even if I worked full time. If I worked full time I would need to pay for extra childcare outside of school hours and it just wouldn’t financially be great for me.

we rarely spend time together. The past year has been the most time he spends with me since the children were born. We went away in the uk for 5 days 4 months ago and as he had to take 5 days off work he’s been back working extremely hard to make up for that lost time. Which in my opinion is ridiculous with the amount of money he has it’s not needed.

he recently signed me and the children to a club that allows them to go to lessons while I swim or workout. I did not ask for this but appreciate it as it’s very helpful for me mentally, for the kids physically and is extremely expensive. Although I thought there were better uses for that money. I asked him recently if I get a job could we move and rent somewhere better. He shut me down and said he wants to continue where we are so he can save as much as possible.

He has spent little times with us recently, we have gone swimming as a family twice and spent a few evenings together after he finished work. He hasn’t given me much attention lately. I mention this to him and he says he’s really busy with work, that he’s had a headache etc. today is Saturday night, he started work at 7am, he should have finished at 5pm. It’s now 8:30pm, the kids are in bed and I’m here alone he is still not home. I don’t have the luxury of going to work knowing my kids are looked after, or not coming home for hours after work because I know my children are looked after. I don’t have a clue what he’s up to, I never do as he does not talk or ever send me a message. The only time he texts me is when he wants to tell me to do something, such as cook him something before he gets back home.

I have cooked all of his meals ahead for the week for him, I have baked him his favourite cake that he has been wanting, I have cleaned and tidied, I have taken the kids to a sport lesson and park and now I am here all alone. It’s easy to forget when you have children keeping you busy but when I’m alone it hits me. If he is so busy and tired that he can’t spend time or give me attention, then why is he not home on time after work?

I should also add, recently during an argument he told me he will not put all of his eggs into my basket. Yesterday after I mentioned that I want us to move and rent somewhere better he told me that he’s got ‘one foot in one foot out’ with me and not sure about me…. Now I am used to him saying hurtful things during arguments but I am getting bothered by those statements. How much longer can I wait living like this not knowing where I’m going in the future?

I should add little things bother me too, such as he has a car but I have to take kids on busses and public transport every day since they were born. It’s hard work but I get on with it. When the bus decides to terminate and we are stuck on random road have to wait for another bus to get home, or yesterday we waited 1 hour for a bus and missed the children’s sports lesson and I tried to call him but can’t get through. All these things make it more difficult. He refuses ti share his car with me, even though I have my license years before him, he uses it every day ofcourse but as my partner should he not help me more? He will drive us home occasionally when needed but most of time I am alone in this.

OP posts:
Birch101 · 07/09/2023 17:36

Personally think your partner is taking you for a fool and wouldn't want the example he is setting for my children.

You working and bettering yourself should not be at his allowance that is not a respectful and supportive partnership.

Is he even putting away for your pension?

MostlyHappyMummy · 07/09/2023 17:47

Get a job
get a car
leave bloke

Pinnapho13 · 07/09/2023 23:34

Yes you’re right. I have applied for 80+ jobs in the past month but always rejected :( I’m not sure why it’s so difficult to get a job I just need to begin working again it’s the first step for me.

tonight we had another disagreement. He come home around 10:45pm the first thing he said within 5 seconds of opening the door he said ‘did you fill up my water bottles’ (the 1 thing I forgot to do). After I had got home at 7:30pm with the children from their club, fed them dinner, got them ready for bed. Washed his dishes from the morning that he left. And cooked him 9 meals to store in fridge for the next few days so he has food on demand. plus I washed the children’s uniform and had just sat down at 10:30pm to do some work on my computer.

he never says hello to me just always complaining. He then asked what the journey was like and if it was ‘smooth’ or a ‘nightmare’ and I told him it was a nightmare. His only concern was that we got there on time and I told him it’s a nightmare travelling on public transport with kids for all these years and he completely told me ‘it’s fine’ and brushed me off.

he then told me to leave my computer and sort the kitchen. The only thing was his food cooling down before I put it in the fridge. There was 1 pan on the cooker that I hadn’t washed yet. I had to stop doing what I was on my computer and tidy the kitchen again.

he then begins to schedule my days out for me and told me I should only be doing my work on my computer when the children are at school. Even something simple like doing something very quick on my computer at the end of the day when kids are sleeping and tidying is done, that is an issue for him.

OP posts:
UpaladderwatchingTV · 08/09/2023 00:26

Sorry OP, I wouldn't normally say this, but are you completely crazy? Why on earth are you still with this arsehole. He's shown you who he is, and you're still choosing not to believe him. Why did YOU have to get up and sort out the kitchen? Are you scared of this man? Have you ever actually said NO to him, and if so, what happened?

Get the advice that you've been pointed to by the people on MN who have taken time out to try and help you, and leave this no good waste of space NOW!! You don't need him, and please believe me when I say you certainly don't love him. Face up to what's really happening in your life and change it. I can't help wondering if you went from living with parents to living with this man, and so deep down you're simply scared of being on your own? If that's the case, once again I beg you to follow the advice you've been given, and live YOUR life, don't wait for him to give you permission. Honestly, I'm SO angry at the way you're allowing yourself to be treated by this man, that I could shake you, and although it probably doesn't sound like it, I mean that kindly, it's just so frustrating to think of you giving EVERYTHING to someone who gives you NOTHING!!

LifeExperience · 08/09/2023 02:20

You are not ready to leave him, even though he's a gold-plated shit. Hopefully someday you will discover why you're so willing to live a horrible life. Please get help so that day comes sooner.

elifont · 08/09/2023 02:39

UpaladderwatchingTV · 08/09/2023 00:26

Sorry OP, I wouldn't normally say this, but are you completely crazy? Why on earth are you still with this arsehole. He's shown you who he is, and you're still choosing not to believe him. Why did YOU have to get up and sort out the kitchen? Are you scared of this man? Have you ever actually said NO to him, and if so, what happened?

Get the advice that you've been pointed to by the people on MN who have taken time out to try and help you, and leave this no good waste of space NOW!! You don't need him, and please believe me when I say you certainly don't love him. Face up to what's really happening in your life and change it. I can't help wondering if you went from living with parents to living with this man, and so deep down you're simply scared of being on your own? If that's the case, once again I beg you to follow the advice you've been given, and live YOUR life, don't wait for him to give you permission. Honestly, I'm SO angry at the way you're allowing yourself to be treated by this man, that I could shake you, and although it probably doesn't sound like it, I mean that kindly, it's just so frustrating to think of you giving EVERYTHING to someone who gives you NOTHING!!

Actually that's really well said! Don't be a pushover! Women should listen to @UpaladderwatchingTV

CherryMaDeara · 08/09/2023 02:42

It’s madness to be SAHM when you’re not married.

He could walk off with the business and money and you are left with nothing.

I’m glad you’re starting to realise you need your independence, job etc.

He treats you like a servant, you’d be better off without him.

Newnamehiwhodis · 08/09/2023 02:48

Omfg he needs to fuck off with that “woman’s role” shit. Please please kick him OUT of your life. Men like this need to never again be accepted by women. They need to straight up learn that if they don’t shape up, no one will have them.

OrderOfTheKookaburra · 08/09/2023 04:40

He says, he thinks, he wants..... items all about him, isn't it?

You are totally reliant on him financially and he controls everything you do, and he's tight as, not "allowing" you a car and making you sharp about on public transport but HE gets a car?

You need to start putting yourself first. But you are very financially vulnerable right now. The money he has saved, is all his, you're not entitled to any of it as you're not married. His business, all his. His car, all his. What do you actually have?

What sort of business are you thinking of starting up? Hopefully virtual because as yet you are unable to get around. When you start earning money do NOT spend it all on the DC and good etc. Save it, you will need it.

Meanwhile he needs to try to get him to start paying you an allowance. Work out what childcare would cost, he is responsible for half of that cost. You're saving him that money!!!! Easier said than done, I know.

But start future proofing yourself. Make sure phone contract etc are in your own name, but make sure the house bills are in his. Get a savings account he doesn't know about. Change passwords on your devices, and make sure he doesn't have access to your bank account etc. build up a running away fund, I suspect you will need it. If you buy groceries see if you can use the cash back option to build up a small amount of money.

TiredCatLady · 08/09/2023 05:11

If you were both raised in the U.K., how is it that he has to wait another 5 years for a passport? Surely he has a visa/leave to remain to work and have a business and at the very least would have had a passport from elsewhere? Oh and he’s treating you like a slave.

Agree with PP, start building up a fund of your own to be ready to leave/for when he disappears with the lot. Don’t be surprised if there actually is another family.

smashburger · 08/09/2023 05:59

Newnamehiwhodis · 08/09/2023 02:48

Omfg he needs to fuck off with that “woman’s role” shit. Please please kick him OUT of your life. Men like this need to never again be accepted by women. They need to straight up learn that if they don’t shape up, no one will have them.

This!!!

aloris · 08/09/2023 06:11

This man is using you as free childcare while he builds his wealth which is all his. What financial security do you have, to compensate you for the time you have been out of the workforce, when you couldn't even get an hour to yourself while he came home only to take naps but never to give you a break from childcare. All you are getting out of this is room and board. Even a nanny gets take-home pay, sets the terms of her employment and doesn't have to work 24/7. When you can't even go out by yourself for an hour, that is how slaves are treated. You say he can't get a passport for another 5 years. Is it possible he will use you until he gets his passport, and then dump you?

What can you do to start looking out for your own financial security. You cannot count on this man at all.

RampantIvy · 08/09/2023 06:31

He is emotionally and financially abusive.
He doesn't love you.
He has no respect for you.
He treats you like a servant.
You don't love him.

Do you have any family you can turn to? This is no way to live.

I also feel that he isn't being honest with you regarding visas and passports.

BibbleandSqwauk · 08/09/2023 07:08

Please don't fall for this "I'm working for you and the kids". He's doing it for himself and as others have said, you have NO claim or control over any of it. He's told you he doesn't fancy you, doesn't see you as anything at all other than his personal servant. Please please leave and find your independence. I know it's incredibly daunting but there's a lot of help and support out there, both practical, financial and emotional.

Hibiscrubbed · 08/09/2023 10:52

Pinnapho13 · 07/09/2023 23:34

Yes you’re right. I have applied for 80+ jobs in the past month but always rejected :( I’m not sure why it’s so difficult to get a job I just need to begin working again it’s the first step for me.

tonight we had another disagreement. He come home around 10:45pm the first thing he said within 5 seconds of opening the door he said ‘did you fill up my water bottles’ (the 1 thing I forgot to do). After I had got home at 7:30pm with the children from their club, fed them dinner, got them ready for bed. Washed his dishes from the morning that he left. And cooked him 9 meals to store in fridge for the next few days so he has food on demand. plus I washed the children’s uniform and had just sat down at 10:30pm to do some work on my computer.

he never says hello to me just always complaining. He then asked what the journey was like and if it was ‘smooth’ or a ‘nightmare’ and I told him it was a nightmare. His only concern was that we got there on time and I told him it’s a nightmare travelling on public transport with kids for all these years and he completely told me ‘it’s fine’ and brushed me off.

he then told me to leave my computer and sort the kitchen. The only thing was his food cooling down before I put it in the fridge. There was 1 pan on the cooker that I hadn’t washed yet. I had to stop doing what I was on my computer and tidy the kitchen again.

he then begins to schedule my days out for me and told me I should only be doing my work on my computer when the children are at school. Even something simple like doing something very quick on my computer at the end of the day when kids are sleeping and tidying is done, that is an issue for him.

Men like this should be set on fire. Seriously. He is abusive, controlling cunt.

Ginmonkeyagain · 08/09/2023 10:59

You aren't married and you gave up your job - this is madness. You literally have no right to anything if you split except for a maintainence claim for the children. You realise that legally your status is no more than that of a housemate. Probably less if your name isn't on the bills and tenancy agreement.

You are setting yourself up for penury.

minipie · 08/09/2023 11:06

This man is using you as free childcare while he builds his wealth which is all his.

This

guzzleandstuff · 08/09/2023 11:15

You say he just sees value in money and you see value in time - but then the reason you can't rent somewhere of your own is because you don't have the money - because he works in a paying role and you work in the home. If both of you worked less there would be less money. And if you left him presumably you'd be after a financial settlement - because in the end money is money - and allows choices to be made.

That's no comment on your relationship which sounds as if it isn't making you happy but which is yours to decide, but just a comment on the work/money thing.

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