To wonder who’s Ridiculous idea that stupid piece of Plastic was…

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Yes you know the one I’m talking about. I don’t even have to mention the bane of my existence! Whenever you see anybody drinking from one of these, it’s awkward and unintuitive. What a ludicrous and quite frankly futile exercise in trying to save the planet.

I am of course talking about the piece of plastic on bottle lids for soft drinks, meaning you cannot easily drink out the bottle anymore without it snapping back in your face or grating over your skin. It’s like we are being guilted and shamed for this, plastic water bottles don’t contain it, just soft drink ones.

I personally can’t stand them! And don’t know anybody who sits and says they are a good idea…

I agree completely and always rip it off, but then it leaves an annoying jaggedy edge.

No. Don’t be obtuse and misquote me deliberately. What I’m saying is that these are now being cut off drink bottles by myself and many others clearly from this post. It is now more difficult to get these lids to attach. Therefore it is now more likely that I will dispose of them separately thus negating the point of introducing these nightmare lids in the first place.

Also from a customer service point of view. Big brands like Coke need to understand that customers vote with their feet and we are now shopping with Pepsi more often. They can’t do things that deliberately irritate their customers all in the name of the environment. If they really cared about the environment they’d stop using single use plastic entirely. However all they do is put on a show by doing a bare minimum action which every customer notices hence increasing their perceived ‘green’ standing within society.

Yes, so annoying, and also the shallower lids that everything has had for the last year or so.

Our recycling doesn’t take black plastic🙄

I thought plastic lids weren’t recyclable- something about them being too small for the recycling machines? I always separate mine and recycle the bottle and chuck the lid!!

Or I am about 15 years out of date?

Keep chucking the lid. No idea who’s stupid idea this was but we need to prove to them it’s not going to work and actually lead to further plastic waste.

It is perfectly possible to drink from one of these new bottles. You just need to hold it at the correct angle. It really is not difficult, I've seen children doing it.

Never had an issue drinking from one and I think that this is just manufactured outrage by people that don't like change and don't like being forced into greener/more sustainable behaviours.

Exactly

The entire industry are doing things that ‘look’ environmentally friendly whilst pumping toxic sludge into rivers! Fascinating isn’t it?

Stop participating in the con by stopping buying the products, then?

It’s going to be interesting at gigs and concerts where they usually remove the kids when selling bottles to stop them being used as throwing weapons.

Oh, and by the way millions of plastic bottle caps are found washed up on beaches, far more than the bottles they belong to. This is why they are making the caps non-detachable.

Proof??

@brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr I buy soft drinks when out maybe twice a year. But where can I refill milk bottles? These stupid lids are being used on those too!

Also presumably we should all give up the odd glass of fizzy water from a litre bottle (now have to throw the rest away because the lid won't go back on) and all mixers such as tonic and ginger ale?

What I don't understand is how all these plastic bottles/lids end up in the sea.
I place mine (when finished) in the correct recycling bin or regular landfill bin (if recycling bin not available).
I don't chuck them in the ocean. Who is doing it? How do they get there?

Google it.

LOADS of well respected studies and data.

I hate them with a vengeance and have cut my lip on the sharp edge of the strip that attaches it.

They twist of quite easily with a few turns though, but hang on the bottle well before doing it!

I'm old enough to remember the same complaints when they switched the ringpulls on cans to prevent them littering everywhere. There were loads of people complaining you couldn't drink out of a can any more but somehow we got over it and the human race survived.

Where’s the evidence that they end up in the sea? That’s what I want to know.

When I go to beaches, I don’t see an alarming number of bottles and walkers crisp packets like a post apocalyptic film. I see clean Sandy beaches!

You have a job to screw the lids back on as well, I just rip them off.

I had similar problem when buying Tesco fizzy water. It was very hard to undo and wouldn't replace afterwards so we couldn't reuse the bottles. I had to go upmarket and buy posher bottles with old fashioned lids which have now lasted us for water bottles all summer without leaking. A big fizzy water bottle wouldn't have worked because it would have gone flat

I HATE it!

Show me some of this data and these well respected studies?

As far as I know most bottles go into rubbish bins which is then either recycled or disposed of. Not into our oceans and the sea! You can find all sorts of studies on the internet including all the ‘flat earth’ stuff so come with actual facts and statistics and information or it means zilch.

OP, do you genuinely think it’s a conspiracy that plastic litter ends up in the ocean, just because you personally have never seen any? And that everyone screws the kids back on and recycles them correctly, not litters? Or are you just frothing for effect?

It's due to EU legislation coming in 2024. UK Market probably too small to retain old style caps.

Having picked litter on land and in the sea, I can tell you that bottle tops are an issue, as are the bottles.