Is it their fault or mine!?

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We have a font and back garden that is joined together, so there is a secure fence that goes around the whole property. We let our 2 dogs out there at various points of the day and at this particular time, there was a lady walking past with her dog and her dog was barking a lot standing on the fence, which obviously meant my dogs went over there and then her dog seems to have pushed his head under the fence, which in turn has moved the box I had there blocking a whole that is just a little bit too big for my liking (it is hard to see what exactly happened, as it is a ring doorbell and quite far away but that is exactly what seems to have happened) she pulled her dog, so his head was back from under the fence and then my little dog pushed her way under the fence! She is not a fan of people and when the lady kept trying to get close, she was running further and further away. The lady did walk around my property but I'm not sure why she didn't just come in the gate and ring the doorbell to let us know? DH says that it is probably because our other dog was out and she didn't want to risk that one getting out as well/was worried it was aggressive (it is a husky) but I think he is being extremely understanding.

Anyway, after walking around the fence/property and doing some half ass attempts at getting the dog back, she just walked off. Didn't knock at a neighbour, didn't do anything! I was a bit shocked as she had a dog herself and would surely not want someone to just leave her dog out. We only realised this is what happened when we called the dogs in and obviously she was missing. Proceeded was a frantic search for hours, followed by a call that she had been handed into the vets with a leg injury. Who is actually at fault here? We are very shaken up about the whole thing but very thankful she is ok, as it could have been a hell of a lot worse.

Fair enough she didn't knock but not really ok that she just walked off without checking the dog was ok or alerting someone.

Actually whilst I agree OP is at fault for the dodgy fence, I'm leaning more to the other woman was out of order for just buggering off while the dog was loose.

Madness 😟

That's the thing, I can accept the fence should have been more secure than how it was, even if it was her dog that was having it's head under to move it. However, to just walk away when my poor dog is out is quite cold hearted, it clearly got injured and I just think that was really horrible

Your dog got out because your fence wasn't secure. Your dog got out because the temp solution didn't work. You can not expect others to take responsibility for your dog. If you want your dog to be safe then you have to make sure its safe.

It would have been nice if she had done something but the responsibility for your dog is yours always.

We have a husky and a little terrier. Our husky loves other dogs and people but I completely understand people being nervous when they see him they don't have the best reputation. I think it is unreasonable that she didn't make any attempt to call you or get your attention but in your position I would have called my dogs in when there was another dog with its feet up on the fence barking at them.

Yes, your fence should have been secure but even without the dog shoving the box out of the way she should not have allowed her dog to stress yours in that way.

But she didn’t just walk away, she walked around your property and tried to get the dog back and couldn’t? She probably thought she’d done what she could.

You seem to know a lot about what she did and didn’t do for just seeing it on a ring doorbell that’s quite far away so quite difficult to see exactly what happened?

Your fault, your garden wasn't secure. Putting a box in front of a hole was never the best idea so I hope you will take this as a warning to fix this.

I wouldn't go into a garden with a big husky or to be honest any dog running loose so unless I could see a way of getting your attention I am not sure what I would do to let you know your dog had escaped.

Your dog, your garden, your broken fence, your responsibility.

I think the other lady’s dog interfered with your property and then she allowed your dog to escape and just went on her way… totally her fault in my opinion.

Succinctly put.

But her fence was secure before the other lady’s dog made it not secure. Why is nobody picking up on that? The other lady allowed her dog to interfere with the op’s property and then just left her small dog running free without knocking on the door. Totally selfish and irresponsible.

@Skyisbluegrassisgreen but the fence isn't secure if she's using a box to fill a hole in the fence?

I Agree with this. I'm sorry your dog got hurt, but personally I think it is one of those things that happen. I understand why she didn't come into your garden with a Husky running free in it - and she had her own dog with her. And she did try to catch it, before giving up.

Bottom line is, if the fence had been properly secured it wouldn't ever have happened, I'm sorry

Your garden that you left the dogs in with no supervision so your fault. There are always idiots around, a kid could have kicked the box as they walked past etc.

You weren't even watching so how do you know this is what happened? If you had been watching you would have known your dog had escaped.

It is literally on camera

Fair enough but this is not in any previous post. How long do you leave your dogs unattended in that case?

It was in the OP. But she said it was difficult to see exactly what happened.

That's puzzling because she just said it's literally on camera?!

I am asking how long she leaves them unattended.

It was difficult to see exactly how the dog pushed the box under the fence, but the rest was pretty clear.

The dogs are in a secure garden, I am allowed to not be watching them and it would have still been secure if the other dog didn't move the box, which my dogs don't

Hmmmm. I am a bit surprised by a lot of these answers @ChangedQuickly

I think whilst ideally the fence would have been more secure I do think she has a degree of culpability here.
Her dog caused the problem with the fence and then she watched your dog escape and walked off.
I might not have gone into your fenced garden with a husky in it and my own dog with me-HOWEVER I would absolutely not have walked away.

I think all the to-ing and fro-ing about the fence etc is actually not the point-even if it wasn't my dogs fault I would never have walked away without trying to alert you or someone re the dogs escape. What if it had been killed?

So IMHO the fence isn't the actually the point-but that she knowingly left when your dog had escaped.

I don't blame you for being upset and indignant!!!!

Unfortunately this. Make sure your fence is secure. Hope ddog recovers quickly.

If your dog was in a secure garden you dog would not have gotten out.

You were aware that fence was not secure and your fix of the hole was a bodge job so you took a risk but it has not worked out

You have an obligation to keep the two dogs under control and if your fence is so low that you can almost see a dog in the street then IMO your front fence is way too low for a healthy huskey.

I would be upset as well OP, but I think it's more an unfortunate accident than a case of blaming yourself of the other woman. It's not great that your fence is in need of repair; it's equally poor that a stranger let their dog move an item near your fence that was blocking the hole. It's unlucky your dog then escaped. From your description, it sounds like the woman tried to coax your dog back, but failed. I can't say I would have been keen to walk into a garden with a husky in it in order to ring your doorbell. I probably would have left a note on your fence, but maybe that didn't occur to her or she didn't have the means to do so?

Sorry if that wasn’t clear, I meant she said in the OP that it was on camera - she said it was on her ring doorbell.