to think housing associations should have more accountability who they choose to allocate homes to.

[JenniferBooth]

DH and i have lived in a top storey block of flats in a two storey block since October 1994.
1994 to 1998 Elderly lady lived underneath us. No problems or complaints. Lovely woman We even used to exchange Christmas cards.
1998 to 2017. Single man lived underneath. Really nice man Again no problems or complaints Unfortunately died in the flat at Easter 2017

Empty for a year.
2018 to 2019 Drug dealer who used to argue with his girlfriend and i used to hear things being thrown around.

Flat empty between summer 2019 and Feb 2022
Feb 2022 to present day now we have an abusive alcoholic underneath us who bangs on the ceiling if i so much as move. Our flat is carpeted and rugged. NO laminate flooring. He called me a cunt when i left the flat to go out one Thursday morning. He also called me a cunt when i took out some recycling yesterday afternoon. I went for a pee at 1.30 this morning and he chanted You fat cunt You fat cunt You fat cunt three times at me through the bathroom floor.
His mum provides him with money and food due to his habit
As ive already posted we have never had this kind of crap before and we have been here nearly 29 years. HAs need to be more accountable especially when these decisions affect other tenants

Well, yes. Maybe the police can come round to these homes they're entitled to and arrest them for harassing and threatening their neighbours.

And everyone should have the right to peaceful enjoyment of said home and to feel safe in it

Maybe you'd like to offer your spare room?

I think once a tenant has violated their social housing tenancy agreement then they shouldn't be allowed social housing again

Do you have a fuckwit like this living next door? I wonder how fast your bleeding heart would heal if you had to put up with it.

I work for a HA - we would love to have great tenants who stick to their tenancy agreement and pay their rent on time (and to be fair the majority are like that).
Unfortunately we also have to take the others, we don't have any choice.
When they break the rules we can't just tell them to leave. We need court action, with witnesses so the Judge will give us possession.
When they do eventually leave they may go in a hostel for a bit but eventually some other HA has to take them and it all starts again.

I would imagine the HA, just like any landlord, has a policy for managing anti social behaviour. Likewise, there are laws too which can be enforced. Are you actually suggesting a change to the law? If so how would it work? What would stop someone just saying 'my neighbours being nasty, can you evict them please?' The laws and guidelines aren't perfect but is there any indication that your HA aren't following protocol? What do you want?

In your spare room, presumably.

Keep a diary of all the abuse you suffer & record it if you can, there is a very high bar to get someone evicted for antisocial behaviour.

I got a lifetime restraining order / until further notice against an ex neighbor in a council house opposite me
he couldn’t come within 100 meters of me and my house

he had some serious mental health problems but quite frankly I don’t care how mental health issues are my problem. - the best thing he could have done was to have topped himself but he’s to much of a selfish prick to do that

it took a long long time and the council refused to evict him. In fact the council seemed to be worse and pretty much expected me to move
they can fuck right off
I made complaint after complaint got the local papers involved my MP Councilor even the bloody Mayor 😂😂

even when he had a court order banning him from the area for 2 years the council still let the cunt keep his house so a council house was kept empty for 2.5 years in total for a mad man

My MP & Counciller were absolutely baffled at why they did this they could have easily evicted him or forced a move

So I emailed the judge and asked for a variation of the R/O and it was done straight away that really sent him over the edge

fuck knows where the cunt is living now hopefully he’s dead or something equally nice

as long as he’s not living opposite me I don’t care
But I pity whoever he is living near - he will
absolutely make their life hell

1. start a diary to track incidents. Write down every incident.
2. if possible gather evidence of the abuse (making sure you stay safe of course)
3. log an official complaint with housing association
4. log a complaint of harassment with the police
5. make sure you have decent security (camera if possible)

He may or may not have done this in the past. You need to start flagging things or accept you are going to have to put up and shut up.

I live in a very diverse area. Home owners, renters, refugees, HMOs, probably the odd paedophile, retired couples who spend their days golfing and lunching, young working couples with pedigree dogs and no kids, large blended families, some don't speak English, some have barely ever travelled out of England.

I'm not too good to live amongst a broad spectrum of society, because I don't value what you seem to value. People need somewhere to live.

I'm not entirely sure what the point of your very personal attack is - can you clarify?

My username is the name of a character from The Big Bang Theory so I'd appreciate some clarity on why you think that's relavent.

I don't understand why accepting that people need housing makes me a cow? Criminals can be processed via the justice system, but if people are not incarcerated for their crimes then they require housing somewhere.

Bernadette You are saying i think im too good because i dont want to be abused. WOW Red flag much.

Well riddle me this. If i had walked past this man in the street where he had shouted abuse at me it would be street harassment no question.

So why is it not harassment just because its been shouted up from one flat to another??!!!!

Bernadette go and spout that at this couple Im sure they will be pleased to hear it

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12348425/Father-pregnant-wife-subjected-horrific-10-month-ordeal-sword-wielding-neighbour-say-prisoners-home-authorities-gave-slap-wrist.html

Polish the halo with the virtue signalling.

In reality if you don't feel safe in your own home because a neighbour is intimidating you, it affects your ability to function and live a normal life.

Unfortunately we almost need designated ASBO homes so that people who are repeat offender don't make other people lives a complete misery.

I am all for diversity and inclusion - diversity and inclusion is not a by word for being forced to tolerate harassment and abuse and daily intimidation. Being diverse and inclusive basically minding your own business and letting people live and let live.

The problem with anti-social behaviour is the anti-social people don't want to just let their neighbours live without interference. They want to do nothing but interfere.

People have rights but they also have responsibilities.

The right to a home is qualified by the responsibility not to ruin the lives of your neighbours.

That's a perfectly reasonable expectation.

No, I'm not saying you think you are too good - I'm saying I don't think I am. It's all well and good people coming on here spouting NIMBY "put them somewhere else" type stuff - it was suggested these people should be housed near me. They are. I live in an area of massive social deprivation, significant MH issues, large portions of no English speakingetc. And I'm of the opinion that if someone is not in prison, then they have a right to have somewhere to live.

It doesn't mean you don't stop reporting crimes, you don't stop logging incidents with HAs, you don't stop pushing your MP. But people need homes regardless of who they are. And these homes have to be somewhere.

Just not near you, right?

Bernadette I have been here for TWENTY NINE YEARS thats THREE DECADES. i have never had abuse from a neighbour before. You are victim blaming

This man is targetting ME with the abuse NOT DH what does that tell you?

Polish the halo with the virtue signalling

So when I say "people need homes" I get asked "where? Next to you?"

Then I say they do live next to me I'm virtue signalling?

This place is fucking mental some times.

And as for the "designated ASBO" homes suggestion above. Come the fuck on. This is how you end up with ghettos and pockets of areas which are 100% no man's lands in terms of safety.

It's not the diversity of the neighbour that is at issue here though. It's the behaviour. It's well known, and unsurprising, that having ASBO neighbours can severely harm people's physical and mental well-being.

In fact these neighbours can be found in any walk of life of course , even multi million pound properties.

Bernadette i have one non British parent. And i have been fighting for tenants rights for a long long time.

How am I victim blaming? Surely victim blaming would be me saying its your fault you are being targeted? Which I'm clearly not saying.

You've lived there for 3 decades and never had an issue. Now you have one issue with one neighbour and all of a sudden its "housing associations should house these people away from me".

Where?

Report him to the police. Report him to his HA. But if his actions aren't jail worthy then where the actual hell should he live? why should Mrs cannybody who lives down the cheap end of the town have to put up with him instead of you? He has to live somewhere

His alcoholism was not a problem until the banging and the abuse started.