Is anyone else finding works changed and no one does anything anymore?

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I am a hard worker. I really care about what I do and try to deliver for my team. I work in an office job but WFH since the pandemic, I don’t think it’s due to being remote. I’ve noticed people just don’t care as much? They don’t reply? I get a lot of “I’m busy sorry I can’t help”. It’s so frustrating and I can’t figure out why everyone seems to have lost their care factor? Anyone else?

People have re-evaluated their priorities - when you’re paid shit wages while still struggling to live why put yourself out to create wealth for shareholders? Just do the minimum you’re paid for.

People cannot care when they don't feel cared for.

I think what you are describing in a symptom of the difficulties lots of people are currently facing.

Jesus Christ. And this is why we're fucked, what a shit attitude.

I hear you OP, many people have become bone idle and entitled, see above.

This is happening in veterinary as well.
The prices are getting higher (due to management) but the care is getting worse.

Where I work there's pressure to not help strays or some wildlife and it's awful being the one who has to face the public and say "sorry, we can't help".

@userxx agreed. What an attitude!

Maybe if they did more than the bare minimum, they could improve their shit wages

You are right. UK productivity is through the floor. Many factors, WFH, COVID, COL, revaluation of priorities, low unemployment, 'Be Kind', companies can't seen to be arsed to pull people up who don't pull their weight.

I moved out of a management role and am happier for it.

Its easier to refuse someone remotely than when they're standing in front of you. They would probably have loved to have been equally unhelpful before WFH, but couldn't say they were busy when you could see for yourself they were just chatting about Love Island or messaging their mates.

I hear you OP, many people have become bone idle and entitled, see above

I disagree.

Employers have shit on employees from a great height. And some of us that used to go above and beyond, have become disillusioned and feel taken for granted.

I still care that I do a good job, but I no longer put myself out, where I would have before.

Google 'quiet quitting' - it's definitely a trend.
Also, as said above - way easier to relax/slack when WFH. Realistically, it takes a huge amount to get sacked

What's morale like in general where you work? I find that people start to give less of a damn when pay isn't keeping up with inflation, benefits etc are poor and so on - and that's certainly the case with a lot of employers at the moment given the general state of the economy. So maybe people care a lot less and are less willing to go the extra mile because they're just not feeling very valued at a time when the cost of living is high and employers might be struggling to deliver decent pay and benefits packages.

I also think that Covid and working from home made a lot of people re-evaluate their work-life balance a bit. My own employer has become a lot more flexible and a lot more conscious of wellbeing since Covid, and so people are more comfortable with being honest about simply not having time in their normal working hours to meet every demand. Where people might have stayed late to finish something they'd put to one side during the day to meet a request about something different, now I think people are more likely to say 'I'm sorry, I don't have capacity to look at this today' rather than putting in extra hours for no pay.

Agree with DannyLaRuesBestFrock

I am public sector, it has always been busy but during covid it went to unmanageable and it hasn't improved. I notice more people refuse to log on during holidays or work unpaid overtime. And that's not a bad thing IMO.

What do all these people who think everyone should “go the extra mile” all the time think happens when you do that? Are they expecting a nice certificate for sucker of the year?

Google 'quiet quitting' - it's definitely a trend.
Also, as said above - way easier to relax/slack when WFH. Realistically, it takes a huge amount to get sacked
I think it's important that the idea of "quiet quitting" is challenged.
Quiet quitting isn't really quitting. It's usually being used to talk about employees (rightfully in my opinion) who go to work, do their job to an appropriate standard, and then have the rest of their life for non-work. In other words, workers are choosing not to work endless hours for free a week and choosing not to keep up with the ever growing voluntary extras.

Phrasing it as quiet quitting makes it sound like employees are doing something wrong as opposed to doing the job they are contracted to do for the time and pay they are contracted to do it.

Slacking and quiet quitting aren't the same. Slacking is unreasonable, as are those people who are quite lazy in the workplace and think someone else will sort them out and get the work done.

Employees have been shit on for years. Cost of living is only getting higher, wages aren’t increasing in line
we went into a lockdown, the whole country was terrified and we all had a chance to reassess how our lives looked.
many of us decided at that point that working our arses off, doing unpaid overtime, skipping breaks, and having health problems due to stress, all to make someone else money, and it just simply wasnt worth it anymore.

I’ve worked 60+ hour weeks my entire life, and given up everything for my job, skipped important events, missed out on holidays and family occasions, all because my boss needed this or that and I thought if I work hard It’ll pay off. I got dropped the second we went into lock down, because the company needed to look out for itself, not me. I’m not bitter about it because I understood, it’s just business. But it made me realise where we all stand and now I work hard, but certainly not as hard.

The modern job worker things if you are only going to pretend to pay me, I'm only going to pretend to work! Why go above and beyond when companies don't think twice about sacking you if the figures aren't good. Of course there will always be high achievers climbing the corporate ladder to the top, but the majority reach their potential, know they are not going to get promoted and no longer see why they should go the extra mile, quite rightly.

Yes everyone is rubbish now but I can't blame them when corporate greed shows us we are not valued. Work life balance has become utterly important since covid and rightly so

I quiet quit my last job as it was horrendous ( I was massively mis sold the role) but it took me six months to get out.

I did the barest minimum whilst always trying to appear busy. I kicked every can down the road. I made no extra effort than the minimum needed
I also had a few weeks off on the sick as I was going through a hard time due to personal issues but in a better job could have probably plodded on.

I have no regrets as I was lied to about the nature of the role at interview and treated badly, you reap what you sow.

Absolutely

People just don't seem to give a shit

I thought if I work hard It’ll pay off

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It rarely does, let's face it

Employers don't give a shit about their staff, they never have.

Yes I've found this in my last two jobs (since pandemic). Now I work from myself so I don't have the luxury!

Slacking and quiet quitting aren't the same, but it's psychologically hard to draw some boundaries and then stop at the right place. What I find is that those who set themselves up in their own head as adversarial to their role/employer just get less and less able and willing to push themselves or achieve something excellently. So they end up unhappy, rigid and slacking. Like if you're a bit shy and you just give in to it and stay home, or you're nervous about presenting and decide you'll just not do it. You get worse and slide back, less and less capable, rather than staying in the same place.

Why not be assertive, think about how to improve your job, or how to use your skills to a better purpose by working towards changing job? If you don't agree with your employer's purpose make a plan to move to a job where you have a role with purpose.

Unfortunately we're not designed to stagnate and we are the losers in the end when we choose to retreat and not try our hardest.

Ive always gone the extra mile, evenings weekends, travel etc and then they decided to put my role into consultation for redundancy, whilst secretly telling a couple of useless lumps not to worry that theyre ok and it doesn't include them. That was my watershed moment when I realised that it doesn't matter how hard I work I am just a number and they would cut me without thought. So now I come to work on time I do MY work and I leave on time. No extras.

No, definitely not in my job (secondary school teacher). My dh recently quit teaching after many years, to take a fairly senior office-based admin job in a university, and he just couldn't believe how little people actually do and how long it takes for anything to actually get done!

What I've noticed, is that some people have far more energy/ get up and go than others, they are just born that way. The energetic ones think the others are lazy and the less energetic ones think the others are crazy for worrying so much when it is just a job. Neither one is better or worse than the other they are just different.