Cyclists who act like they own the road should pay towards it

[dreamingofsun]

So cyclists get priority on the roads, and are happy to ride two abreast so they hold all the car traffic up. Shouldnt they at least pay towards the upkeep of the road?

No cyclists use the expensive cycle path paid down for them here,they prefer to hold up the traffic riding on a narrow ,curving road which makes it dangerous for them and does have the possibility of causing delays and accidents.
If they refuse to use the cycle paths perhaps they should be stopped and advised but,cycling is the only way many people can get around with the col crisis and they should not be forced to pay tax and mot.

Come to the junction at Chancery Lane any weekday and watch pretty much every cyclist bomb it through the red lights and nearly wipe out the pedestrians on the crossing. Bonus points for them not using the specially built kerbed cycle lane that meant the bus stop were removed.

The roads wouldn't be overcrowded if everyone cycled or took public transport.

What's that as a proportion of cyclists/drivers, and as a proportion of total distance travelled by each or time spent travelling.

Raw data is useless if not put into context.

Kills per cyclist could well be higher than kills per motorist - without knowing the totals, raw data figures have no use.

Maybe not, but buses, pavements, cycle tracks certainly would be if all the people travelling in cars suddenly walked, cycled or took the bus instead!

Cycling isn't a legitimate form of transport in the UK and shouldn't be seen as one. There is absolutely 💯 no reason for anybody to cycle on a road

Hahaha OK 😂

Most of the journeys I make my bike replace a journey I’d have otherwise have made by car, causing congestion, pollution and using up non-renewable resources. But guess that’s not a good enough reason for you?

I don’t want to ride with dickheads on bicycles or cars

if you’re got 41 dead people killed, one by a cyclists and 40 by motorists- do you really think the families care how many miles everyone is travelling? Most families want to then prevent others from facing the same fate.

Same here in the Peak District

Umm, I own neither a bike or a car but somehow my taxes still pay for roads - where's MY rebate OP?

-The roads wouldn't be overcrowded if everyone cycled or took public transport

Have you tried catching a Pennine Express train? I’d bloody love to use public transport, but it hardly exists outside London. The bus services in my city have just been halved. There are more cars on the road in the North of England than the south. Because the north has crap public transport.

Many cyclists do have insurance. I do, it costs about £12 a year. But the reality is that mandatory insurance would only work alongside mandatory licensing and registration, which is almost impossible to administer. Cars are owned by adults, generally change hands infrequently, and can be comprehensively licensed, whereas many bicycles are owned by children and are often lent and passed on to siblings and friends. Of the most dangerous cyclists I see every day in London, I’d say a significant proportion of them are teenage boys. Your teenager’s friend, who has bicycle insurance, lets your teenager, who doesn’t, ride their bicycle. Because teenagers do dumb stuff. Your kid then causes damage or injures a pedestrian. Property owner or pedestrian wants to sue, and has an expectation that because your kid was riding a bicycle, and bicycle insurance is now mandatory, that they have insurance which will pay out. Do you really want that legal headache on your hands?

Do you think people in general should be registered and have to walk around with that number on their t-shirts the whole time too?

I do pay for it via our cars. It's called VED - vehicle emissions duty.

I have never seen a car jump a red-light o ly Amber.
2 abreast surely can't be safer as even fully over on the other side of the road there wouldn't be 2m clearance so it's illegal to overtake unless the road is a super wide a road.

People walking down the street cannot crash into someone and cause an accident. So...no.

There are other roads besides 20mph zones. NSL roads are 60mph, practically motorway speed, your point doesn't really make sense.

It is an emissions tax.

Many cars don't pay Vehicle Excise Duty (often called road tax) as they are low emissions. Should they be allowed on the road?

No it isn't.

I'd rather stick pins in my eyes but thanks for the tip

Just come back from a French city and seen how seamlessly pedestrians, cyclists and motorists use the road without aggression. Motorists stopping their vehicles at the slightest hint of a pedestrian crossing the road or a cyclist cycling through (cycle paths weaving through the main roads), motorists patiently waiting, is unbelievable. You almost don't even have to look at the road when walking or cycling as the cars just stop for you.
Depressing to come back to England where cycling is so disrespected.

Not Paris then !

You can walk down the street and stab someone. What's to stop them without registration plates?

We definitely need registering and visible identification of every cyclist on the road. The only country in the world that has this is North Korea and it's high time we joined them on this and many other of their excellent policies.

Lol, I'm not a fucking Chuckle Brother 😂