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AIBU to be angry we were subjected to Social Services Section 47 Investigation?

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Morbihanmum33 · 05/08/2023 10:13

Long post - sorry: My husband and I have 4 children, 14, 11, 7 & 2. No prior involvement with social services whatsoever. No ‘risk factors’ - criminal records / addiction issues / mental health problems / domestic violence / no issues at schools. Both of us have enhanced DBS. Professional jobs.

Our family recently had to endure the considerable distress and intrusion of a Section 47 child protection investigation.

Our 2 year old had light bruising across his thighs. Both my husband and I saw it but did not know how he’d done it. We flagged it when we took him to nursery, he is very active, trying to keep up with his bigger brothers. In the last 6 months at nursery, the nursery has filed 6 accident reports for incidents in their care, so they know what he’s like.

They rang me to tell me they had a statutory duty to report the bruises as they were unexplained and on a part of his body not normally associated with bruising. However, they assured me it was routine and nothing to worry about. They told me they made it clear on the referral that they did not believe we were responsible for the bruising.

The next morning a social worker called me and told me I had to take my son for a medical examination. This had to be done at the hospital - 45 mins away - immediately. I was due at work and had an important meeting so asked if it could be another time. I was told they could take my son into care if I did not go.

My son was given an examination by 2 doctors and I was interviewed at length. While waiting the social worker told me this was a Section 47 and that they would also have to see my other 3 children, and could go into their schools that same day if necessary to interview them! They also told me they had chosen not to involve the police at this stage!

The Drs found no evidence of non accidental injury. This was communicated to me and the SW at the time.

Despite this, the investigation still had to run its course over a number of weeks, with a visit to our home and interviews with the other 3 children, and them speaking to our GP and schools.

We all found the whole process deeply distressing and a total invasion of our privacy. I was fraught with worry the entire time. We were made to feel like criminals, with SS adopting a ‘guilty until proven innocent approach’. I’ve been left traumatised by the whole experience.

Having read up on this I understand that bruising in a non mobile infant under 6 months is always a major cause for concern, and some local authorities authorise automatic Section 47’s for referrals like this. However, government guidance is that (even with a non mobile infant) an initial enquiry or assessment should be made with the family before initiating an investigation.

Secondly, my child is fully mobile and the original referral explicitly said the bruising was not considered suspicious - so I do not understand why this was escalated in this way.

The cases (against all 4 of my children!) have been closed, but I’m so angry we were put through this. I also understand the fact an investigation was carried out will stay on file for a long time. I’m considering pursuing a judicial review on the basis an initial assessment should have been carried out and the lack of medical evidence did not warrant an investigation.

AIBU to feel like this - or should I just let it go?

OP posts:
AuntMarch · 06/08/2023 23:05

How did you find out it was the bike?

Morbihanmum33 · 06/08/2023 23:13

AuntMarch · 06/08/2023 23:05

How did you find out it was the bike?

Our 7 year old saw it happen during a kids party, he scooped toddler up gave him a quick cuddle and he was fine again. He didn’t tell us at the time, only once all this kicked off and we were trying to think what had happened.

OP posts:
Jellyx · 06/08/2023 23:34

@Morbihanmum33
Please don't lie to others. What if someone at the nursery or an extended family member had caused the bruises?

Catchasingmewithspiders · 06/08/2023 23:51

Morbihanmum33 · 06/08/2023 22:51

I’m just catching up with this now. @MistressoftheDarkSide I am sorry to hear everything you went through. Clearly the distress still lives with you, and I’m thankful my case is a lot more straightforward.

i found the following online relating to another LA. I understand practices vary between LA’s - but do feel there ought to be consistency in the system. Unexplained bruising falls in column 2, unexplained suspicious bruising in column 3. Only bruising in non mobile infant falls in column 4 where S47 is the default action, or bruising judged by Dr to be non-accidental, which this was not. I maintain there is a huge difference in the propensity for a non mobile infant to sustain bruises compared with an active 2 year old, who has already proved to be somewhat accident prone at nursery.

I also attach photo of the bruising which was the subject of the referral.

It's possible they went to section 47 on suspicion of sexual abuse which is in the section 47 column

Honestly without the explanation that looks like someone could have been forcibly holding the child's legs down to cause those bruises

RedRosette2023 · 07/08/2023 07:19

It’s scary how easily this happened OP. My toddler chipped his tooth and I didn’t know when or how it had happened. Id been very poorly and he’d spent the night with my parents. When I asked they said he’d hit his mouth on the side of the bath but hadn’t noticed any damage to his tooth. He’d been to nursery inbetween too so it was possible it had happened there.

I took him to the dentist and he asked why there was a delay in my noticing, it was likely because he hadn’t been in my care. I said I thought the bath incident was likely the culprit and he asked why my parents didn’t tell me sooner. I replied that they didn’t want think it was a noteworthy incident. I felt a little uncomfortable with his line of questioning - I didn’t think it was relevant to why I was there - which was just to check his tooth didn’t need any work (it didn’t) and I probably wouldn’t have taken him if it hadn’t of been for us going on holiday the following day and not wanting to need a dentist abroad.

My point is that this seems like a similar relatively minor incident that spiralled. Someone above have said it “could be a child being held down” well a chipped tooth could be a punch in the mouth but it could also be a hundred other things.

Jellyx · 07/08/2023 08:55

RedRosette2023 · 07/08/2023 07:19

It’s scary how easily this happened OP. My toddler chipped his tooth and I didn’t know when or how it had happened. Id been very poorly and he’d spent the night with my parents. When I asked they said he’d hit his mouth on the side of the bath but hadn’t noticed any damage to his tooth. He’d been to nursery inbetween too so it was possible it had happened there.

I took him to the dentist and he asked why there was a delay in my noticing, it was likely because he hadn’t been in my care. I said I thought the bath incident was likely the culprit and he asked why my parents didn’t tell me sooner. I replied that they didn’t want think it was a noteworthy incident. I felt a little uncomfortable with his line of questioning - I didn’t think it was relevant to why I was there - which was just to check his tooth didn’t need any work (it didn’t) and I probably wouldn’t have taken him if it hadn’t of been for us going on holiday the following day and not wanting to need a dentist abroad.

My point is that this seems like a similar relatively minor incident that spiralled. Someone above have said it “could be a child being held down” well a chipped tooth could be a punch in the mouth but it could also be a hundred other things.

The dentist was 100% doing his job! If the chipped tooth had accompanied a broken nose and bruising that would have been a different story!

RedRosette2023 · 07/08/2023 09:28

Jellyx · 07/08/2023 08:55

The dentist was 100% doing his job! If the chipped tooth had accompanied a broken nose and bruising that would have been a different story!

Yes he was. Maybe I didn’t explain it well. I just became aware of where he was exploring with his line of questioning which made me uncomfortable. Job or not, the feeling of being questioned and having to justify yourself can make you uncomfortable.

MistressoftheDarkSide · 07/08/2023 09:33

@Morbihanmum33 Thank you x

I’m a bit embarrassed that I kind of hijacked the thread and banged on so dramatically. I am recently widowed and the grief has triggered me to sort of re-visit a lot of past trauma that I have never really had the chance to process I think.

I am also glad your situation is more straightforward and hopefully resolved.

I absolutely get the rage when people try to minimise the feelings that being accused/investigated can bring up, and also the denial that sometimes things go very wrong in the child protection system.

It is quite possible to understand why certain things are done and that children do need to be protected. At the same time, the feelings that an investigation generate are powerful.

Dealing with those feelings is hard when the message seems to be that you have, in some way, brought them on yourself and deserve them.

I absolutely understand and support your need to get all the information to help understand it all. Part of the problem with these situations is the awful feeling that you aren’t being told the full story and there are things being hidden from you. It can induce paranoia.

It’s very easy for people to say not to take it personally but it’s just about the most personal thing you can go through.

It’s very hard to detach from it and the constant narrative that if you don’t accept that everything you experience is worthwhile for the sake of others doesn’t help.

There’s a lot wrong with the system and no easy answers but that shouldn’t mean you can’t question it and keep informing when things do go wrong or could be improved.

I wish you well going forward whatever you decide to do, and stand in solidarity with people who go through the system and are spat out forever wondering WTAF just happened.

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