Is it really that hard.....? 🤔

[StillGotBabyBrain]

My family is vegan, not a massive deal.

When the school has events, no vegan option, so everyone gets a bbq or food catered and we don't. Not even a dairy free alternative for hot drinks! (Primary school, high school is better).

When they go for sleepovers I get worried parents asking me what should they do, can I provide food and drinks for them...

Pubs and restaurants barely cater for adults let alone add options for the kids menu.

Went to a choir meeting the other week, nothing I could eat from the food included in my ticket price.

Am I being unreasonable thinking it's really not that difficult to provide bread and houmous or vegetable dishes? They're suitable for everyone, so isn't a waste of food! Blows my mind.

Mmm
How do children decide they want to eat animals

Their parents feed them the animals, the children don’t get a say in this. That’s very disturbing….it works both ways

Its the same thing.

OP hasn’t said anything about her beliefs being superior, nor has she suggested it, maybe you just think she is.

Your post is completely irrelevant to the query OP has raised.

I didn't come here asking for advice on how I parent my children or to listen to someone who had a bad experience in their teens and now has rationalised this as a problem with vegans. I also don't tell anyone on here what they can or cannot eat and do not need your guidance on how to feed my children.

I highly doubt you are a professional nutritionist unlike those for eg at the British dietetic association or NHS who confirm a balanced plantbased diet is suitable for all life stages. I do not know anyone who eats a perfectly balanced diet, and I know many of the children at the school are fed chicken nuggets amd sausages (carcinogenic) as I see it on the school menu when choosing the vegan food for my kids lunch 😉

Also, in the UK most supermarket bought meat and dairy is from factory farms as standard. Over 73% of the animals raised in the UK are factory farmed and that is debated with some saying it is up to 85%. And the USA much higher. I do want to stop breeding animals into industrialised farms, just to kill them at a mortifyingly young age. They are domesticated animals, hence why they cannot look after themselves like wild animals, which incidentally are becoming extinct from animal agriculture, which also happens to be the second largest driver of climate change.

Why are you being so rude mysterybelle.
You need to calm down
This thread is not about you or your child this is a poster asking a valid question on why a plate of fruit and veg is so hard for people to think about at a group event.
OP hasn’t asked your opinions on her life choices.
You’ve missed the point here

I’m a bit surprised it seems to be such an issue for you tbh.

My best friend is vegetarian and eats with us regularly, we also go out to eat and frequently find that there are more vegan options on the menu than vegetarian, which drives her nuts as she likes proper cheese!

I get where you’re coming from with school and I’m surprised they don’t offer an alternative from an allergies POV but I find it hard to believe you’re that badly catered for at pubs and restaurants.

Party food is trying but not every family has the knowledge, skills, confidence or budget to cater to alternative dietary needs. It wouldn’t faze me in the slightest as I’m a decent cook with experience of doing it but I know plenty of people who would freak out at having to provide plant based options.

@Iolani our bodies show is what we should be eating, as mentioned, we have the omnivore digestion and teeth.

So you'd be happy if there were no more pigs, cows, sheep and chickens then?

Ha, I see I cross posted with you OP. You were kind to even give it airtime.

It is that hard though.
I run a canteen and am looking for vegetarian options, but vegan is difficult. Most of the fake meat options are revolting and usually vegans and vegetarians don’t eat it (please correct me if wrong, would love suggestions).

Actually, by posting in AIBU she did. I understand you've immediately resorted to insults because you lack the mental capacity to form a coherent argument, but surely you understand something this simple?

Good plan 👌 that is an irk of mine, when I make something nice and take it, the non vegans nom it all up! No more sharing! 😂🤣😂🤣

I gave the school sweets that they could give my kids when others were getting some. Some parents really make an effort in fairness. And now a lot of sweets like the M&S range are all vegan, and co op do loads. It's getting easier on the treat side of things.

More than anything, what I'm trying to say is, I don't think I'm unreasonable asking for my kids to not be left out. I'm a big girl, I can put my big girl pants on and suck it up, I just don't want them to have to wear my pants....

They're both really passionate about it, so we do what we can to avoid those situations.

Absolutely I’d be delighted if we had no pigs cows or sheep. What a ridiculous question to ask someone who clearly doesn’t eat them.

Theyre only there for human satisfaction along with all the ones behind bars in zoos.

Humans are healthier without having to eat other living things.

Believe what you like you are wrong.
But once again, this thread is not about the morals or science behind what we eat.
It’s about human kindness to others in providing for everyone’s needs.

Heard it all before, been vegan years so get faced with this kind of randomness.

Seitan
3parts vital wheat gluten
2parts water
1part plain flour

Mix together
Cut up into chunks
Steam for 10 minutes
Fry
Coat in sauces of your choice, Chinese flavourings works best I think.

75% protein

Hey! I agree lots of the fake meats are horrible!

What kind of things are on your menu anyway? More than happy to help with ideas 💡

Haribo packets are the standard school sweets to give out for kids, but because they are the most cheap available sweets. I'm not sure how they aren't suitable for vegetarians (which I know they aren't) but there should be equal options these days.

I had to double-check the date of this thread, to make sure I wasn't reading a zombie thread from 2005. I can't remember going out and not seeing vegan options in years.

You're being a bit whiny, OP. Schools can't even afford pencils and books, never mind 'dairy-free alternatives' for your end of term hot chocolate. Your wide-eyed disbelief that people can't just whip up a bean chilli for your kids is a bit daffy.

Anyone following a restricted diet of any kind will find their range of options narrower, and occasionally, not catered for. Sorry if I've missed it upthread, but are you 'new' vegans? I've found that they can be a bit overzealous with the 'WHERE IS MY VEGAN OPTION' stuff.

Something easy. I was thinking toasted cheese sandwiches for vegetarian.

Thanks

I’ve been a veggie ( now vegan ) for 40 plus years and tbh I have never had to put up with the utter crap and nonsense that some on MN come up with
Its only ever on MN.
Friends in the 80s would ask, what do you eat, but that was about it.

Eat what you want to eat and own it.

She really didn't ask for your opinion on what she eats.

As for coherent arguments... you literally just asked a vegan if they want all the chickens to die. Did all the chickens die when you went vegan? What a twatty question.

@StillGotBabyBrain if you want to risk your children's growth rate and brain development and feed them processed vegan crap, then that's your business.

Personally, I believe that children should be fed as natural a diet as possible until they can choose for themselves, You've removed that choice from them and simultaneously made their social lives more difficult. Poor kids.

Ps
Its pronounced Satan 🤣

No,@Seddon, but that's the outcome if we all go vegan isn't it? Critical thinking is hard isn't it?

I just wanted to add if you are vegan don’t drink wine. I have seen wine made and it’s not vegan.

20 years ago they had gelatine in.( when my kids were young)
No idea now.
They wouldn’t eat that sort of stuff now anyway as they didn’t grow up with it but I believe gelatine is being dropped from a lot of food these days. So there’s bound to be alternatives now.

Onwards and upwards