To tell you that if you're overweight and worried about going on holiday, don't be!

[SpeedbirdSquawker]

I'm almost 24 stone and a size 24. I'm lucky enough to be able to get away a few times a year, but my weight has always held me back doing things. I know other overweight people have similar fears, so I was hoping to alleviate those with this post.

Firstly I worry about the flight and if i'm going to fit into the seat. I always need a seatbelt extender (with Ryanair, not so much with other airlines), but I fit in the seat absolutely fine! I use the toilet onboard and have room to manoeuvre.

When I have been away, the beach is always full of the people with perfect bodies, as is the complex pool and i've always avoided the beach (for fear of looking like a beached whale) and i've only used the pool when it's empty, first thing or just before sunset.

I don't eat out at restaurants because I thought people might judge me scoffing my face.

Well, this holiday, I thought to fuck with it all. I ate out in restaurants. I went to the beach and even stripped off to my swimwear and went in the sea. It was liberating! I sunbathed on the beach. I went in the pool at busy times. You know what, people didn't bat an eyelid? I got friendly hellos and people were more busy with themselves and the people they were with to even look at me and if they did, to give me a second glance.

I know that being overweight can put some people off living life to the full, but please just do it.

What false point?

I love this @GillianMcQueef

Do you really think the OP doesn't know that? Seriously ? Do you really think if someone large feels ashamed enough of their size they will suddenly let go of all their disordered eating (and yes, overeating in large quantities on a frequent basis is an ED) and become nice and skinny for you ??

No, I don’t think that at all. All I said was that it’s not mean to state the reality of this. Being overweight is what it is. And that’s fine. But pretending it’s something it’s not isn’t helpful or honest. Run on the beech. Eat what you want in restaurants. Drink the wine. Eat the pudding. But be honest. It’s not mean, it’s just the truth.

The clarion call of the mean girl - 'it's just the truth, I was just being honest'. The thread isn't about whether fat people are unreasonable to fly; it was that the OP felt happy on holiday. You can't resist puncturing that with an unnecessary comment. How is it relevant, why was your 'truth' needed here?

Ah, but would you go on a thread where someone has expressly said they don't do any of those things and insist that they must? Would you, Jen? Would you?

I wasn’t actually the person who originally made the point, all I did was point out it’s the truth. Truth hurts I guess but that’s up to you to ask yourself why.

To be honest I think she might well, she is one of those people who can’t stand to see anyone else happy so would have to pick holes, however spurious.

“Called out”

here you are, you have shown your true colours. Being fat is as rude and antisocial as “audible headphones/BO/manspreading tendencies/a fondness for excavating their nasal cavity with their fingers”?

If someone said “I never shower or use deodorant and sweat like a trooper and I don’t stink on a plane”? Yeah probably.

I think I must not have read the O P properly . I missed the bit where she said her weight was not a health issue. Or that it is good to be obese. I didn't see this at all.

It isn’t the truth, it’s just the nasty bleating of someone who can’t stand other’s feeling good about themselves.

No, being fat is not. spilling over in to my seat is.

That sounds very painful. But it wasn’t the OP. Why can’t you just believe her when she says her body shape meant she didn’t encroach on anyone else? I believe you that you have experienced the opposite, is a range of experiences not possible?

But why was your truth, hurtful or not, relevant to this thread? No one was asking.

What has stinking on a plane got to do with the OP? Or being fat? That's a rather bizarre link to make

All those things can be easily remedied by the person doing them. Losing weight is possible but it's not easy and does take time. It's not the same thing at all.

As said others made the point, all I did was state it’s not mean it’s the reality. And loads of you are horrifically offended and giving one minor comment far more attention than it deserves.

But OP didn't spill over into your seat. Or anyone's seat. She started this lovely thread from a place of joy and positivity.

Do you usually squat and execute a Mr Whippy over people's joy, @JenWillsiam? Or is today a special occasion?

Ignore her @SpeedbirdSquawker - by her logic two fat people would never be able to sit next to each other on a plane because they each need a seat and a half 🤦‍♀️. I’m glad you enjoyed your holiday!

It's not the reality though because it never happened.

Don't let people like @bluetongue (her username should be hurtful tongue, I think) steal your joy and sense of acheivement. You've worked hard at enjoying your holiday and making sure not to let self consciousness get you down. You should be proud of yourself . I am and I don't even know you!

It fucking is though because I do not spill over onto anyone elses seat!!! Do you know me Do you know that my fat arse, hips and everything else spills into the seat beside me. No you don't so you cannot say that this is the case.

Of course it is. A good friend of mine is well over a size 20 but she is an apple and still very slim in the hips, with great legs. I'm a 12 but an hourglass and I am wider in the hips than she is. She doesn't spill over seats. She may have trouble with the tray but that doesn't impact on the person next to her. Pray tell, how are you impacted when the person next to you fits in their seat?

I guess not entering into in-depth analysis is a great way never to work out that you're wrong, isn't it?