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To tell you that if you're overweight and worried about going on holiday, don't be!

361 replies

SpeedbirdSquawker · 23/07/2023 17:14

I'm almost 24 stone and a size 24. I'm lucky enough to be able to get away a few times a year, but my weight has always held me back doing things. I know other overweight people have similar fears, so I was hoping to alleviate those with this post.

Firstly I worry about the flight and if i'm going to fit into the seat. I always need a seatbelt extender (with Ryanair, not so much with other airlines), but I fit in the seat absolutely fine! I use the toilet onboard and have room to manoeuvre.

When I have been away, the beach is always full of the people with perfect bodies, as is the complex pool and i've always avoided the beach (for fear of looking like a beached whale) and i've only used the pool when it's empty, first thing or just before sunset.

I don't eat out at restaurants because I thought people might judge me scoffing my face.

Well, this holiday, I thought to fuck with it all. I ate out in restaurants. I went to the beach and even stripped off to my swimwear and went in the sea. It was liberating! I sunbathed on the beach. I went in the pool at busy times. You know what, people didn't bat an eyelid? I got friendly hellos and people were more busy with themselves and the people they were with to even look at me and if they did, to give me a second glance.

I know that being overweight can put some people off living life to the full, but please just do it.

OP posts:
DrSbaitso · 24/07/2023 18:37

JenWillsiam · 24/07/2023 18:17

It’s not mean. It’s the reality. Fitting in the seat doesn’t mean you’re not intruding into someone else’s space. And at size 24 there’s no way that isn’t the case.

If she's an apple shape, it's entirely possible. Some fat women are still very narrow in the hips.

DrSbaitso · 24/07/2023 18:53

JoeyRamoney · 24/07/2023 10:00

Sadly, also accurate. But the point still stands - you cover up because you feel self-conscious - nothing changes about how people view your body.

Indeed it doesn't.

So stop worrying about what you can't control - the thoughts of others - and start focusing on what you can control, ie how much of a shit you give.

GillianMcQueef · 24/07/2023 18:55

JenWillsiam · 24/07/2023 18:17

It’s not mean. It’s the reality. Fitting in the seat doesn’t mean you’re not intruding into someone else’s space. And at size 24 there’s no way that isn’t the case.

Aren't you worried, getting close enough to OP's chips to be able to piss on them? You might absorb passive calories and you wouldn't want that now would you?

ElectricTouch · 24/07/2023 19:00

Thanks @SacreBleugh . I'd rather be fat but compassionate, empathetic and connected than thin but as sour and venomous as you'd have to be to leave a comment like @JenWillsiam has done on a thread like this.

DrSbaitso · 24/07/2023 19:04

GillianMcQueef · 24/07/2023 18:55

Aren't you worried, getting close enough to OP's chips to be able to piss on them? You might absorb passive calories and you wouldn't want that now would you?

🤣

We've had a few of these posts that have to find an alternative way of berating OP for going over on to the next seat, since she didn't actually do it. One person was reminding her that some people do. And now we've got a charmer telling us that she probably intruded into the space in some other mysterious, undefined way...

JenWillsiam · 24/07/2023 19:16

Norr · 24/07/2023 18:33

If you don’t like people near you, fly business class. Or better still- don’t fly at all!

I don’t like crying babies, perfume or aftershave, arguing, music playing, food smells, annoying people talking too loud, kids playing noisy games, snoring, people getting up to go to the loo, people tutting at me because wheelchair users get priority boarding but it takes time for me to get on the plane, people who set off my kid into a meltdown one way or another and about a million other things that impinge on me when I’m on a plane- but I suck it up because we aren’t promised a perfect world and everyone has a right to be there.

I don’t have any issue with any of those things, all part of flying.

But I do resent paying for a seat and then having to share it. Why should I be in pain to accommodate someone else? Because that’s literally the result when I have to squash in because someone else is spilling in to my seat.

JenWillsiam · 24/07/2023 19:19

ElectricTouch · 24/07/2023 19:00

Thanks @SacreBleugh . I'd rather be fat but compassionate, empathetic and connected than thin but as sour and venomous as you'd have to be to leave a comment like @JenWillsiam has done on a thread like this.

Can you clarify what I said that was mean? It’s the truth. It doesn’t make it mean just because it’s true.

JenWillsiam · 24/07/2023 19:20

GillianMcQueef · 24/07/2023 18:55

Aren't you worried, getting close enough to OP's chips to be able to piss on them? You might absorb passive calories and you wouldn't want that now would you?

What?

NoChanceYouMetalBastard · 24/07/2023 19:20

There are so very many threads on here about weight. Why couldn't the concern trolls just leave this one alone? Why couldn't this one thread, started with positivity, just be left alone? An OP who is happy, had a great holiday and wanted to reassure others. Too much to ask I suppose.

Well done OP, glad you enjoyed yourself. There's a lot to be said for a "fuck it" attitude!

JenWillsiam · 24/07/2023 19:21

DrSbaitso · 24/07/2023 18:37

If she's an apple shape, it's entirely possible. Some fat women are still very narrow in the hips.

I am not going to enter into an in-depth body analysis but it’s not possible to be a size 24 and not impact the person next to you, however it’s distributed.

Ratonastick · 24/07/2023 19:27

This is a (mostly) joyful thread. A few mean girls, but mostly joy. For me, I was away recently and I saw a lovely couple in a pavement cafe. He was absolutely gorgeous with amazing deep brown eyes, she was so pretty with the loveliest bright blue eyes (I noticed them because of their eyes, they were both so striking and so different). They were obviously madly in love with each other, laughing, holding hands and canoodling a little, they were utterly glorious. And do you know what, they were both about 45-50, overweight and short. I have never seen such a beautiful, perfect and in love couple or a couple with so few fucks to give about the rest of the world.

OP, you’d have loved them!

Norr · 24/07/2023 19:29

JenWillsiam · 24/07/2023 19:16

I don’t have any issue with any of those things, all part of flying.

But I do resent paying for a seat and then having to share it. Why should I be in pain to accommodate someone else? Because that’s literally the result when I have to squash in because someone else is spilling in to my seat.

@JenWillsiam fly business class then.

Or stop pretending that over weight people control the width of plane seats

JenWillsiam · 24/07/2023 19:31

Norr · 24/07/2023 19:29

@JenWillsiam fly business class then.

Or stop pretending that over weight people control the width of plane seats

I don’t need a business class seat. I need full access to the seat I paid for. Why does anyone have the right to sit or use something I’ve paid for?

GillianMcQueef · 24/07/2023 19:33

JenWillsiam · 24/07/2023 19:20

What?

I said, aren't you worried, getting close enough to OP's chips to be able to piss on them? You might absorb passive calories and you wouldn't want that now would you?

HTH 😊

JenWillsiam · 24/07/2023 19:33

GillianMcQueef · 24/07/2023 19:33

I said, aren't you worried, getting close enough to OP's chips to be able to piss on them? You might absorb passive calories and you wouldn't want that now would you?

HTH 😊

I’ve literally no idea what you are talking about.

GillianMcQueef · 24/07/2023 19:35

JenWillsiam · 24/07/2023 19:31

I don’t need a business class seat. I need full access to the seat I paid for. Why does anyone have the right to sit or use something I’ve paid for?

OP had said she didn't do that though. So why are you harping on about it? What relevance does it have to this joyful, positive thread?

GillianMcQueef · 24/07/2023 19:36

JenWillsiam · 24/07/2023 19:33

I’ve literally no idea what you are talking about.

Yes, I'd rather deduced that humour wasn't really your thing.

JenWillsiam · 24/07/2023 19:38

GillianMcQueef · 24/07/2023 19:35

OP had said she didn't do that though. So why are you harping on about it? What relevance does it have to this joyful, positive thread?

She’s wrong. No question.

Tinybrother · 24/07/2023 19:42

JenWillsiam · 24/07/2023 19:38

She’s wrong. No question.

What bad luck you’ve had - I’ve had the opposite - fat people have been so conscious of not encroaching on my space that they have been very considerate co passengers. All the twatty people I’ve sat next to who have invaded my personal space have been thin.

Norr · 24/07/2023 19:43

JenWillsiam · 24/07/2023 19:31

I don’t need a business class seat. I need full access to the seat I paid for. Why does anyone have the right to sit or use something I’ve paid for?

In the real world though, no one else is sitting on your seat are they? There is an arm rest in the way for one thing.

You just don’t like fat people and enjoy trying to make people feel bad about themselves. This is why you are on @SpeedbirdSquawker thread trying to ruin her happy mood. It’s utterly pathetic.

GillianMcQueef · 24/07/2023 19:43

JenWillsiam · 24/07/2023 19:38

She’s wrong. No question.

When I was a size 24 I didn't spill over either. However there was often some inconsiderate twit sitting next to me with audible headphones/BO/manspreading tendencies/a fondness for excavating their nasal cavity with their fingers. Believe me if I could've oozed my thighs and hips over those fuckers I would've but they stubbornly stayed on my seat.

Some people are so self absorbed and rude, don't you find, @JenWillsiam?

JenWillsiam · 24/07/2023 19:50

Norr · 24/07/2023 19:43

In the real world though, no one else is sitting on your seat are they? There is an arm rest in the way for one thing.

You just don’t like fat people and enjoy trying to make people feel bad about themselves. This is why you are on @SpeedbirdSquawker thread trying to ruin her happy mood. It’s utterly pathetic.

Oh they are absolutely on my seat.

JenWillsiam · 24/07/2023 19:50

GillianMcQueef · 24/07/2023 19:43

When I was a size 24 I didn't spill over either. However there was often some inconsiderate twit sitting next to me with audible headphones/BO/manspreading tendencies/a fondness for excavating their nasal cavity with their fingers. Believe me if I could've oozed my thighs and hips over those fuckers I would've but they stubbornly stayed on my seat.

Some people are so self absorbed and rude, don't you find, @JenWillsiam?

I would have called all those things out too.

JenWillsiam · 24/07/2023 19:56

Tinybrother · 24/07/2023 19:42

What bad luck you’ve had - I’ve had the opposite - fat people have been so conscious of not encroaching on my space that they have been very considerate co passengers. All the twatty people I’ve sat next to who have invaded my personal space have been thin.

I didn’t say they were inconsiderate. But that doesn’t alter the actual reality of being seated next to someone who’s too large for a plane seat. And the reality is for some it’s an actual real physical issue. I have arthritis which means having someone over spilling into my seat and forcing me to sit leaning the other way is an issue. I always pay to pre book to ensure that I am not in the middle but of someone is spilling over / under the arm rest it is painful.

I don’t for one minute think obese people should have their lives impaired or feel shame but if you’re sitting down thinking you’re not impacting others on a plane and making no attempt to offset that it’s a problem.

Norr · 24/07/2023 20:02

JenWillsiam · 24/07/2023 19:56

I didn’t say they were inconsiderate. But that doesn’t alter the actual reality of being seated next to someone who’s too large for a plane seat. And the reality is for some it’s an actual real physical issue. I have arthritis which means having someone over spilling into my seat and forcing me to sit leaning the other way is an issue. I always pay to pre book to ensure that I am not in the middle but of someone is spilling over / under the arm rest it is painful.

I don’t for one minute think obese people should have their lives impaired or feel shame but if you’re sitting down thinking you’re not impacting others on a plane and making no attempt to offset that it’s a problem.

why are you so desperate to drive this (false) point home on a cheerful thread by someone trying to help women have a nice holiday?

What is actually wrong with you? You have unnecessarily made a claim, had it pointed out to you that you’re wrong and yet you’re still repeating yourself… you are wrong and being a bitch, just stop it.

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