To worry DD25 could get a driving ban?

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DD26 has been driving for five years. She's usually a great driver & a sensible person all round.

On her way to work nights a couple of weeks ago, she went through a red light at speed. She knows how dangerous this was & was beating herself up about it. She couldn't slow down in time to stop safely (I know this is a speed issue).

She was rushing to get to work as she was going to be late & there were hardly any cars & no people around. However, she did think it was a 40 zone as the signage wasn't great, the other side of the road was a 40 limit, and the area used to be a 40 when she was last there many years ago.

Last week, she got the letter through asking for her to confirm she was driving when this happened. The letter mentions the speed but there's no clear mention of her going through the red light (though it was a speed and red light camera that caught her).

She hasn't had any previous driving offences. She isn't eligible for a speed awareness course as the speed is too high for that.

Understandably, she's now terrified she's going to get a driving ban (needs the car for work). Of course she knows it'd be her own fault, but she's sick with worry and has to wait for the next letter to find out what will happen.

Anyone know what the most likely answer is?

Jesus, 54 in a 30 zone is unforgivable.

Get her to read this: https://www.rospa.com/media/documents/road-safety/inappropriate-speed-factsheet.pdf

I am no saint either - I’ve had 3 points in the past for 34 in a 30 and then 34 in a 30 a few years ago. I had to pay for a speed awareness test after that one and learning that doing 33 - just 3mph over instead of a max of 30 can be the difference between injuring or killing someone. Made me think very hard about speeding ever again.

@monsteramunch thank you. He was a bright, mischievous, loveable, independent young teenager with his whole life ahead of him when it happened. He's in his 30's now & can't hold down a job (mentally) and just wants a wife & children, but he's not really able to to 'adult' in that way. It's so very sad.

A ban for life isn't within the sentencing guidelines. Just 7-56 days.

I see far worse driving around our residential streets daily. It's terrifying. I'd rather save bans for these drivers than the OP's DD.

i just think in this situation it's better that she learns from it, I don't see the need to ban her, especially not permanently.

we probably need to agree to disagree 🌷

Court Guidelines
Speeding (54 mph in 30 limit)
Fine:
£100–£1,000
Band C
Points:
4–6 *
Ban:
7-56 days

• If an instant ban is imposed, you will not receive points. Discretionary Driving Ban

Her getting a (well deserved) ban is the least of your worries. You have a daughter who knowingly engages in potentially lethal behavior because she didn't want to be late to work. I'd focus on that if I were you.

@Lougle I have no idea if there were street lights or not. As it was daytime and I was looking for road directions, watching cars etc and had no 'feel' of it changing down, not back to 50, I wasn't looking for street lights. It's badly 'assessed' it changes 40/50/49/50/30/40/50. With sometimes only the tiniest gap between signs. Plus, as I said, many of them covered by over growth of trees.

54 is really, really fast in a built up area. And she's an inexperienced driver. Much as it's difficult, I think she deserves a shock of a short ban and hefty fine. It's incredibly stupid.

Dangerous driver. That's no innocent mistake. Be glad she didn't kill someone.
At magistrates court, If she is a nice, well spoken middle-class lady who pretends to be sorry, she'll get speeding awareness course and a fine. If she were a working class boy, they would throw the book at him.
Just sickening.

Are you actually concerned for her? What a selfish little cow yoir daughter or not obviously be glad she or nobody else is hurt but fuck her little princess attitude and woe is me I need my car for work I hope she gets a ban and I'd feel the same of not more jaggy if it was my daughter.

Can't bare these shit drivers who think they can so what they want.

@FFSwhatisthis

A ban for life isn't within the sentencing guidelines. Just 7-56 days.

I understand this, I meant I feel it should be.

Yes we'll have to agree to disagree on this.

Sorry again about your godson.

IMO drivers like OP aren't safe enough to be on the road.

She very easily could have killed someone. Maimed someone.

She was nearly double the speed limit. Not without knowledge she was speeding, but because she didn't want to be late. A conscious decision rather than a genuine misunderstanding.

In my opinion that is so serious she should no longer have the right to drive.

I agree with this. It will likely come down to a judgement based on those sort of factors, which is awful because in reality this factors have no bearing on how dangerous the offence was and how serious the potential damage was.

Driving is a privilege not a right. She should be banned.

Yeah this.

If she deliberately went through a red light at speed this does show a selfish rpdisregard for her owm safeypty and the safety of other road users. This is quite serious. Still she probably won't get a ban.

@FFSwhatisthis I'm a little surprised you suggest you wouldn't notice streetlights unless they are switched on. Suggests a pretty big lack of awareness of your surroundings in which case the logical thing is to slow down.
The change in length of (and gaps between) white lines in the centre of the road are also an indication of change of speed limit. Again as a driver it's something you already know when you've passed your theory and hazard perception tests. If this is news to you or seems like brand new information then take it as a call to remind yourself of these things.
We all have learning to do as drivers, and I say that as someone who's been driving for 30 years, the minute we start thinking we're great drivers is the minute we get lax and make mistakes.
Hopefully it's a learning curve for you, and I mean that genuinely not in a harsh way

Nonsense

This. She deserves a ban OP. Drivers like her should not be in the road. She could have killer someone.

*killed.

44 in a 30 zone doesn't result in going to court, and certainly doesn't risk a ban.
You're either leaving something out (like previous points) or your DH was lying to you about his speed.

I got done driving 45 in a 30 zone, I got 3 points & £100 fine, so add 3 points for the red light & a minimum total of £200 fine.

54 in a 30 zone and running a red light deserves a decent fine (several hundred otherwise they dont learn) but doubt she'll get a ban

That's a totally outrageous speed for a 30mph zone bloody hell

Here are some guides ….

I hope she gets a ban tbh it's would be totally deserved. Is she normally so selfish?

Whatever the outcome, for her sake & the sake of everyone else on the road please drum into her head that it's better to be 30 minutes late in this world than 30 years early in the next.