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What is the worst case scenario for climate change over 5 to 10 years?

110 replies

Unbalance · 21/07/2023 21:15

Obviously it is all gathering speed fast. But densely, I just can't really picture what will happen, in terms of well everything? There are so many factors at play.

Fresh water scarcity concerns me most. Is this the biggest threat to the most people over the next few years, as in will kill the most people in a short space of time?

Or if not water - what is the biggest threat if shtf completely?

What can governments do to prepare for worst case scenarios?

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AlanJohnsonsBeemer · 22/07/2023 19:10

@User894532765 I can’t tell if you are taking the piss or not?! Do you genuinely think that most of the human race will die due to climate change in the next 5-10 years?

User894532765 · 22/07/2023 19:13

AlanJohnsonsBeemer · 22/07/2023 19:10

@User894532765 I can’t tell if you are taking the piss or not?! Do you genuinely think that most of the human race will die due to climate change in the next 5-10 years?

OP did ask for worst case scenario so I gave it

Swrigh1234 · 22/07/2023 19:15

All the hysterics are out in force today.

Arightoldcarryabag · 22/07/2023 19:16

Worst case is World War 3 and life as we know it pretty much ending. Climate crisis and migrant movements can easily trigger something like this within the decade.

Most likely within 10 years it will just be people displacement, few million deaths, crop failures on a regional scale with large scale famine among poorer nations.
Locally we will just see a further erosion of living standards and possibly some political and social upheaval.

HedgesNotFences · 22/07/2023 19:17

I really don’t think anyone responsible should be having children nowadays - they face a horrible future.

HedgesNotFences · 22/07/2023 19:21

London will be underwater.
UK and other northern hemisphere countries will be flooded with refugees fleeing heat, drought and famine and be unable to feed their populations.

KvotheTheBloodless · 22/07/2023 19:21

Arightoldcarryabag · 22/07/2023 19:16

Worst case is World War 3 and life as we know it pretty much ending. Climate crisis and migrant movements can easily trigger something like this within the decade.

Most likely within 10 years it will just be people displacement, few million deaths, crop failures on a regional scale with large scale famine among poorer nations.
Locally we will just see a further erosion of living standards and possibly some political and social upheaval.

This.

Over a longer period, I'd expect migration to be more and more of an issue, as hoardes of people from countries that are no longer inhabitable try to get to countries that aren't. Tactics will move from the current system, to zero asylum, to forced deportations, to all-out lethal responses to attempts to land in the UK/Northern Europe.

We will all get used to a gradual slump in living standards, accept that we can no longer eat whatever we want, whenever we want, and consume less in terms of goods - not because of positive action, but in response to shortages.

SunnyEgg · 22/07/2023 19:23

HedgesNotFences · 22/07/2023 19:21

London will be underwater.
UK and other northern hemisphere countries will be flooded with refugees fleeing heat, drought and famine and be unable to feed their populations.

When is the London underwater bit thought to happen?

Enoughnowbrandon · 22/07/2023 19:25

Is all this supposed to happen in next five to ten years??

sleepwouldbenice · 22/07/2023 19:25

renamedbutsame · 22/07/2023 18:30

on the side of those who do not believe in climate change which is man engineered. Climate always changes

Then this isn't the thread for you is it?
Maybe go back and read the Light

MasterGland · 22/07/2023 19:27

Food will become very very expensive. So much so that for a good chunk of the population in the developed world (I realise there are already people in this category) there will be no money for any conspicuous consumption... ironically the thing that has been driving climate change.

TimeFlysWhenYoureHavingRum · 22/07/2023 19:27

Mass migration (in a real sense - not the overblown tabloid rhetoric that has been used against the relatively low immigration in recent years). When entire countries / continents on the equator become uninhabitable people won't just wait to die they will move north.
Best get used to that fact sooner rather than later and start preparing for how to make it work rather than pretending we can stop it.

GotMooMilk · 22/07/2023 19:38

I think in the next 5-10 years realistically:

  • a big push to ‘eat local’, as you can see from the rice difficulties there will be more examples of everyday items becoming unavailable. More like Australia where imports do happen but you pay $$ for them and tend to eat more seasonally
  • Governments will have to step up towards net zero and this was form a large part of their agenda for elections
  • a big clamp down on migrants without the ‘skills’ that we need, for virtually every country
  • much stricter rules on how eco friendly new tech needs to be (eg dishwashers, rules on new roofing).
  • all new housing to have solar panels and batteries as standard. An acknowledgement of the importance of trees and green spaces and more push to include this even when building new homes etc
  • More unsettled weather and extreme heat and rain/floods. Some parts of the world more difficult to live in and therefore climate refugees being a ‘thing’ in 10 years +
  • I’m hoping a ban on shein/temu/cheap Amazon crap. This is the biggest thing and needs to go. Balloon arches- banned. Plastic grass-banned. Single use plastic bags- banned, not paid for but got rid of. You can buy bags obviously for use and in plastic but should be reused. Every supermarket should have a dispenser at the front with bags that others have bought bag and filled up (I have loads of old bags for life I could donate)
  • less short car journeys. People going mad for ULEZ and 15 min cities but I’m 100% behind them. We should be walking and cycling wherever possible. Boom in the bikes with big baskets/kids seats etc .

I choose to be positive and make positive changes for me and the kids. Model good behaviour, we have a car but use it rarely (4th hand!) and cycle and walk everywhere. Avoid the tumbler, minimise heating.
I also feel hopeful within 10 years climate scientists will find good ways to support adaptation.

Unbalance · 22/07/2023 19:41

How can we make it work?

Is it possible, realistically, to figure something out now we are on the cusp of mass migration?

If it all descends into a shitshow...Jesus I feel sick at what will happen to so many desperate people trying to get away from heat and flood.

Read a really upsetting news story today about the border in Texas, about two pregnant migrant women being denied water in the extreme temperatures. That is obviously only the tip of the iceberg.

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caggie3 · 22/07/2023 19:47

HedgesNotFences · 22/07/2023 19:17

I really don’t think anyone responsible should be having children nowadays - they face a horrible future.

Gut wrenching to read that was Sad

babbscrabbs · 22/07/2023 19:47

renamedbutsame · 22/07/2023 18:30

on the side of those who do not believe in climate change which is man engineered. Climate always changes

So the side which 99% of climate science disagrees with?

Interesting choice.

GotMooMilk · 22/07/2023 19:52

caggie3 · 22/07/2023 19:47

Gut wrenching to read that was Sad

Also horribly unfair. So many people with kids saying they wouldn’t do it now- of course they would. Life goes on, the urge to have children is strong. Your child might be one of the key people to help solve global warming. Honestly part of me thinks the people ‘not having kids because of climate change’ will look foolish in 70 years when life is ticking along, albeit differently.

RudsyFarmer · 22/07/2023 19:52

Just enjoy yourself now before it becomes a hell hole. I’m seeing civil unrest as more and more people pour into the country.

SaturdayGiraffe · 22/07/2023 19:57

Just follow Ben See (climateben) on twitter.

marblesthecat · 22/07/2023 19:58

I should not click on these threads but I always do...

doingitalllagain · 22/07/2023 20:00

marblesthecat · 22/07/2023 19:58

I should not click on these threads but I always do...

Yep lying in bed with my 6 month old wondering what the hell he's in for and how to protect him and his brother Sad

I always freak out about my kids on the climate change threads but I can't not click because I hope for people to say atleast not in the kids of todays lifetimes Sad

VikingVolva · 22/07/2023 20:02

SunnyEgg · 22/07/2023 19:23

When is the London underwater bit thought to happen?

Actually underwater, probably several decades away. There could be regular flooding in the vulnerable areas by 2030, so it's just within the scope of this thread. Flood defences might be improved, but water tends to find its way.

London flood risk: Map shows areas that could be regularly underwater by 2030 | The Independent

London flood map shows areas that may be regularly underwater by 2030

These are the areas of London that face alarmingly frequent flooding by 2030

https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/london-flood-map-risk-b1917001.html

Unbalance · 22/07/2023 20:04

Children have always been born through all of the rough periods in history and many thrived Flowers

But that's why there needs to be some kind of plan? To protect the people who are just kids today?

I have no idea what planning for the likely scenarios will involve but surely there must be whole governmental departments planning?

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Itisyourturntowashthebath · 22/07/2023 20:12

VikingVolva · 22/07/2023 20:02

Actually underwater, probably several decades away. There could be regular flooding in the vulnerable areas by 2030, so it's just within the scope of this thread. Flood defences might be improved, but water tends to find its way.

London flood risk: Map shows areas that could be regularly underwater by 2030 | The Independent

That will make taking the underground interesting.

Unbalance · 22/07/2023 20:15

That will make taking the underground interesting.

Speaking of the tube, is it air conditioned these days? I have not been on it for years, but will it not be getting dangerous with the temperatures in London this year and last?

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