To be uncomfortable with the film Oppenheimer?

[LKM23]

I haven't seen the film, I'm sure it's a brilliant thriller and will be a Blockbuster hit. I don't think I'll watch it though, it makes my feel really uncomfortable.

It feels like a man who at the end of the day killed thousands of people and damaged millions is being celebrated and turned into a hero.

I lived in Japan for 10 years in my twenties. I visited both Hiroshima and Nagasaki and spent a lot of time with people both directly and indirectly affected by the dropping of the bombs. Those scars are real and still there and will be for a very very long time. It changed Japan and the people who live there forever and at the end of the day I think he was an awful person.

AIBU?

Oh please, no one acted honourably during this conflict, there are cunts on all sides 🤷‍♀️

Oh bless.

Read a nice book or magazine and shut all this out.

Sending hugs for your trauma.

Don't get me started on why I won't watch Barbie, we'll be here all night and I've got shit to do.

No but you do have lots to comment on a movie you've not seen. Again know your history and almost certain the man who made the bomb had said if he didn't build it someone else would have so it was a race to build that bomb. But again you don't do whataboutry but what you do is biased comment without checking facts

It isn't whataboutary hun, it's context for the decision which was made to bomb Japan. The alternatives were pretty horrific too.

I don't know much about him at all hence my thread, I know a lot of people affected by his 'work' that's all.

Don't call me darling.

Since you know a lot of people impacted by his work, if you cared you would have actually found out something about him or the film, Hun

Quite. Perhaps read the "Rape of Nanking" or listen to interviews of PoWs and "comfort women" before turning the Japanese into innocent victims.

The likelihood of the Japanese surrendering without enormous loss of lives on both sides was remote. Absolutely horrendous for the poor civilians, but blame should also be apportioned to their beloved Emperor and the sadistic military for unleashing a blood-thirsty war and committing nurmerous atrocities.

It's worth reading the previously mentioned Richard Rhodes book (Making of the Atomic Bomb) to get the gist of how complex a character Oppenheimer and was, his motives and also he motives of all those involved....the A bomb certainly wasn't "his invention", it wasn't hijacked by anybody, he certainly knew what he was charged with building.

It's then worth reading another Rhodes book, "Dark Sun", to get some idea of why Oppenheimer subsequently got thrown under the bus by the US establishment (Teller has a lot to answer for, not just the H bomb)....

If Nolan can cover that, accurately, faithfully, in one film I'll be impressed.

Quite.

Umm wtf completely ignoring the difference between killing adult troops who choose to fight and be killed and the sudden mass killing of thousands of civilians, including children, with the creation of a weapon so horrific it led to the world living forever under threat of destruction?

Your passive aggressive calling people 'lovely', 'darling', and 'hon', along with the 'off you pop' when someone posted something that you disliked, suggests that you don't really want opinions at all.

Agreed the Japanese took the nasty to an extra special level.

Here’s a quick synopsis

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanjing_Massacre

adult troops who choose to fight

Ww2 right? Sorry but are you having a laugh?

I think you'll find that the Japanese killed quite a few civilians themselves btw.

They’re a problem because they HAVE to be. How else are people supposed to signal their virtuous credentials if they can’t denounce things?

What a dum comment.

Who said it's celebrating him?

Oh and people are complicated, context matters, and people can be both good and bad at the same time. Life doesn’t fit into neat little boxes of ‘goodies and baddies’.

It's an adaptation of an extremely good biography.

Just read the fecking book for goodness sake and stop moaning about a film you haven't any intention of going to see

Or are books too much for you as well?

Don’t ask for opinions on your unevidenced opinions and then have a hissy fit when people give their opinions. I always read threads before voting on AIBU threads because sometimes posters just can’t help giving themselves away in their replies. YABU for being so belligerent.

I was just responding to the previous post about allied troops.

I wrote a poem called Oppenheimer when I was younger. I've always been fascinated by the kind of mind that could create something so monstrous, and often wondered how he felt about it.

I don't think it's a film that glorifies him, having read the reviews. He's such an important part of history and I imagine the film is a thoroughly interesting narrative on the human conscience.

I can't wait to watch it.

I'd love to watch the film but I'm guessing its long and as I tend to fall asleep at 9 it may be what we call in this house a 'five nighter'

@LKM23 yes totally this. I won't be going to see it.