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To wonder why Huw Edwards is being treated a lot more sympathetically than Phillip Schofield was ?

172 replies

Barnybrown · 15/07/2023 22:38

That’s it really - the tone of the media coverage re Huw seems much more sympathetic than the coverage Phillip received and discussion generally just seems much more sympathetic of Huw than Phillip, I can’t quite understand why?

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ThisTimeIts · 16/07/2023 02:08

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Keep pushing those boundaries - jog on.

Lizzt2007 · 16/07/2023 02:08

Mumtothreegirlies · 16/07/2023 00:37

The youngest was only 17 though wasn’t he?

The parents say so, however the police have said nothing illegal has happened so that would imply not.

IveHadItUpToHere · 16/07/2023 02:16

It's the difference between immoral and illegal. One of the other young people said HE messaged him on social media when he was 17. But HE didn't ask him for photos - so not illegal - just worryingly shit judgement and the potential for grooming.

Mercibuckets · 16/07/2023 07:02

Phillip Schofield met someone as a young teenager at a theater group, got them a job st age 18 when he expressed interest in the entertainment industry and had a sex with him on multiple occasions. It’s also a matter of public record ie he shared this information in court that when he learnt about his brothers pedophilia he didn’t report him to the police.

Phillip Schofield also had multiple colleagues who had complained about his behaviour and the culture of This Morning.

Huw Edward’s is alleged to have paid for images from an Only Fans account and spoke to other men on Grinder. It seems like the only intent the Sun had was to out him as gay and whip up a storm making the BBC the story. The initial reporting from the Sun implied that the man paid for photos was 17 as well as releasing of some messages which were at best mildly flirtatious support that too. There is condemnation of the Suns journalistic standards from a wide spectrum of journalists eg David Yelland its former editor. I feel sorry for Huw and his family.

Wigglewigglewitch · 16/07/2023 07:09

They are being treated differently because they are two different people doing two different things. And how the Sun has the audacity to comment on anything with their long history of printing topless photos of teenage girls, including those under the age of 18, is really breathtaking.

CrystalPalaceAlice · 16/07/2023 07:20

He’s hiding behind someone other than his wife who keeps spouting his very bad MH issues. But he won’t be hiding forever seeing as 3 women that he worked with have since come forward.

finewelshcheese · 16/07/2023 07:20

HoogahToogah · 15/07/2023 22:44

Because he's in hospital for mental health issues which likely means he's on suicide watch. I guess the gutter press need to now be careful?

Or he's gone for a stay at the priory while it all blows over.

tttigress · 16/07/2023 07:21

I'm surprised MN are so soft on him.

Putting aside the Only Fans allegations. What about his issues with colleagues at the BBC, sending explicit messages via social media.

Imagine if that was a guy doing that to a MNetter, there would be outage, people screaming go to HR and get the bastard fired!

billysboy · 16/07/2023 07:26

He’s fortunate that he can just check into the Priory
leaving his wife and kids to pick up the pieces

StefanosHill · 16/07/2023 07:27

tttigress · 16/07/2023 07:21

I'm surprised MN are so soft on him.

Putting aside the Only Fans allegations. What about his issues with colleagues at the BBC, sending explicit messages via social media.

Imagine if that was a guy doing that to a MNetter, there would be outage, people screaming go to HR and get the bastard fired!

It’s because it’s the BBC. It’s a type of poster, politics gets involved too

It shouldn’t as he’s the same as PS

StefanosHill · 16/07/2023 07:29

ChopperC110P · 16/07/2023 00:24

The outrage hasn’t been quite the same. The OP and other posters see it as well as I do.

Nothing to do with homophobia though.

MaryBeardsShoes · 16/07/2023 07:29

Putting aside the fact that the circumstances are very different, HE is a respectable newsreader, whereas PS is just a frivolous entertainment professional. I would tend to think more kindly of HE than PS at a basic level because I respect HE more as a professional. Rightly or wrongly I’d be far more sympathetic to a friend than to someone I was cynical about.

Obviously I don’t know either of them personally 🤣 so this is just my instinctive reaction.

Tontostitis · 16/07/2023 07:30

Because the BBC

0021andabit · 16/07/2023 07:33

I think the press hounding & amount of press coverage has been completely disproportionate, as has some commentators gleeful cruelty.

Its natural to be judgemental/ have opinions on someone’s sex life but if it isn’t illegal it is none of our business, really. Unless we think no one who has ever cheated/ used only fans should have a job.

In Philip Schofield’s case, the allegations centred around the work place so HR obviously need to be involved.

pickledandpuzzled · 16/07/2023 07:34

I think you could equally ask 'why the fuss over a man using only fans?'.

Personally I think it's awful, and as a society we need to stop accepting that old men use the sex services of very young adults.

But I think that for every man, not just celebrities.

pilates · 16/07/2023 07:37

MH

happyasaseagullstealingchips · 16/07/2023 07:43

One is a nice "respectable" serious news reader journalist type on BBC. The other is a trashy public interest presenter and reality host on ITV. Class comes into it imo.

MaryBeardsShoes · 16/07/2023 07:48

happyasaseagullstealingchips · 16/07/2023 07:43

One is a nice "respectable" serious news reader journalist type on BBC. The other is a trashy public interest presenter and reality host on ITV. Class comes into it imo.

Yes, said it better than me.

RoyalImpatience · 16/07/2023 07:48

I'm also guessing suicide watch.
And it's turned political. So people who love the bbc see it as an attack by murdoch. It's not about huw and bullying inappropriate behaviour now.

Cornettoninja · 16/07/2023 07:53

I think that mostly, the thing both have in common is that the public love a pitchfork and the media knows this.

The crux of PS’s downfall was his testimony in his brothers court case. He hadn’t divulged this to his circle and it’s pretty obvious that his failure to report his brother at the time of finding out what he was doing has been applied by them to situations they feel he has put their own families/reputations in danger. He was turned on by the media once his ‘protections’ were lost.

HE’s scenario is relatively tame by comparison. It isn’t proven that underage activity took place and is relying heavily on unsubstantiated claims to fuel outrage. The basic facts are sordid but not illegal and arguably nothing to do with HE. The addition of the young person using money they received to fuel a drug habit isn’t anything to do with HE unless he was supplying drugs .

In both cases reports of being an arsehole aren’t really relevant. Being an arsehole isn’t illegal and is mainly used by the media to cement ‘loyalty’ to a side.

All that said, I don’t think HE should return to the BBC. I think his MH is clearly too fragile to play the above game. Stand alone interviews would be enough for him to address his innocence regarding accusations of law breaking and other rumours.

Ultimately neither have broken the law so public opinion is largely meaningless and just that - an opinion. The people they have hurt (wives, children, parents, partners, etc) are the only people who have the right to such depth of feeling about their actions imho.

StefanosHill · 16/07/2023 08:06

RoyalImpatience · 16/07/2023 07:48

I'm also guessing suicide watch.
And it's turned political. So people who love the bbc see it as an attack by murdoch. It's not about huw and bullying inappropriate behaviour now.

PA did that interview after where he talked about his mh

I guess not as effective as a statement

StefanosHill · 16/07/2023 08:07

PS..

RoyalImpatience · 16/07/2023 08:17

After all the furore.... Huw has been almost immediately

ProtestantsHateAbba · 16/07/2023 08:22

I think that some of it at least comes down to who they might have pissed off during their careers. I get the feeling that PS has kicked a lot of people on his way up the ladder and now he’s taken a tumble they’re enjoying kicking him right back. There’s also something off about the young man he was in a relationship with and just how young he was when they met. The power imbalance was huge from what I can see. If it’s how it seems that’s very illegal and very, very predatory behaviour.

Huw Edwards… slightly different in that it’s really only the notoriously homophobic and generally revolting Sun newspaper who have been gunning for him. Also, the scum hate the BBC and HE is being used as a weapon to attack them with. Yeah, other media were interested in who this BBC star was but once they found out via his wife they all seemed to back off. Apart from the daily mail who also hate the BBC and gay people.

Maybe it’s because Huw is more respected? Maybe it’s because while he’s behaved badly in that he’s a married man with children he doesn’t seem to have broken the law at all. Also the man is so ill he’s currently in hospital and he has a history of mental illness.

Dylanesque · 16/07/2023 08:25

It's the Establishment closing ranks as usual. Interesting how many people spout the idea that if it's legal, it's OK. Would it still be OK if it were your partner or DF buying sexual images of young adults of a similar age to their own children/grandchildren?