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To wonder why Huw Edwards is being treated a lot more sympathetically than Phillip Schofield was ?

172 replies

Barnybrown · 15/07/2023 22:38

That’s it really - the tone of the media coverage re Huw seems much more sympathetic than the coverage Phillip received and discussion generally just seems much more sympathetic of Huw than Phillip, I can’t quite understand why?

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Thehippowife · 16/07/2023 00:06

Both men used their status to groom vulnerable young men. End of.
there should be no difference at all.
the entitlement of these people is unbelievable. They were both in a position of trust.

Sometimeswinning · 16/07/2023 00:13

ChopperC110P · 16/07/2023 00:02

Sorry, who is the teenage girl you are referring to?
The question is why are Schofield and Edwards being treated differently. There’s no teen girl in that question.

You're saying it's homphobia. I'm pointing out there is zero difference to how people perceived it. For every homphobe there is a misogynist. PS and HE could have been in the same position with a female and it would make no difference. People would still be outraged or defend them.

Flickroday · 16/07/2023 00:16

NameChange245 · 15/07/2023 22:48

Anyone know if the allegations (from 4 different people I gather), are from young men or young woman or both?

Just asking because DH assumed men and I assumed woman! It doesn't matter either way I guess. Although personally I'd be more upset with my husband cavorting with a young man behind my back, than with a young woman. Probably because it would mean he'd lied twice - once re: the acts he was engaged in and secondly about his sexuality.

Or just simple homophobia

ChopperC110P · 16/07/2023 00:16

Sometimeswinning · 16/07/2023 00:13

You're saying it's homphobia. I'm pointing out there is zero difference to how people perceived it. For every homphobe there is a misogynist. PS and HE could have been in the same position with a female and it would make no difference. People would still be outraged or defend them.

I disagree. There is clearly a difference in how it’s being perceived.

forgotmyusername1 · 16/07/2023 00:17

I guess the main difference is phillip had an actual physical relationship with someone who while an adult many would argue he groomed as he knew him when underage wheras huw edwards essentially paid for only fans pictures from an adult but never had a physical relationship with the individual.

I think that is a pretty big difference.

Sometimeswinning · 16/07/2023 00:21

ChopperC110P · 16/07/2023 00:16

I disagree. There is clearly a difference in how it’s being perceived.

To what? There is no difference. There has been the same outrage to all these creepy, powerful men in the news recently.

Do you think we should care less if its a man grooming another male? Are you OK with HE and PS?

Itwasrare · 16/07/2023 00:22

Huw was popular with his peers (not necessarily juniors, but still); Schofield was not. That’s the difference IMO

ChopperC110P · 16/07/2023 00:24

Sometimeswinning · 16/07/2023 00:21

To what? There is no difference. There has been the same outrage to all these creepy, powerful men in the news recently.

Do you think we should care less if its a man grooming another male? Are you OK with HE and PS?

The outrage hasn’t been quite the same. The OP and other posters see it as well as I do.

Noelcansing · 16/07/2023 00:25

Because HE was just doing what millions of other men probably do. Not great but not illegal.

As for the texts, maybe, naively, HE saw them as a bit of work banter with colleagues. I think a lot of older men need reminding that they are actually older.

Greatly missing HE’s work on TV though, and I really hope he gets better and gets back to the kind of work he does outstandingly.

Sometimeswinning · 16/07/2023 00:37

ChopperC110P · 16/07/2023 00:24

The outrage hasn’t been quite the same. The OP and other posters see it as well as I do.

But you can't give any examples? Defend them all you like. I don't really care what others think. Its an abuse of power. Rolf Harris, Andrew etc. There was outrage.

Mumtothreegirlies · 16/07/2023 00:37

Lizzt2007 · 15/07/2023 22:43

There's already been this thread. Consensus was that schofield groomed the young man he had a relationship with, and then used his influence to get him a job, then got him removed from the job when the relationship ended. He also knew of his brothers paedophilia and kept quiet. Huw allegedly paid an adult for pictures. Also as of yet it is still only allegations against Edwards.

The youngest was only 17 though wasn’t he?

Oblomov23 · 16/07/2023 00:39

Hmm. I'm so uncomfortable with three comparisons.

ChopperC110P · 16/07/2023 00:40

Sometimeswinning · 16/07/2023 00:37

But you can't give any examples? Defend them all you like. I don't really care what others think. Its an abuse of power. Rolf Harris, Andrew etc. There was outrage.

Sorry, but how on Earth is it defending either of them to state the reason why I think the outrage is different between the two?

Mumtothreegirlies · 16/07/2023 00:42

They’re both dirty vile perverted scumbags who have cheated on their wives.

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With teenagers!?

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100% this

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MysteryBelle · 16/07/2023 01:56

I think they’re both the same sort of person. Like with most scandals, more will start coming out about Huw’s seedy behavior of grooming young men as his texts show. Probably tip of the iceberg. Let the truth shine on these creeps.

ThisTimeIts · 16/07/2023 01:58

Prince Andrew is homophobic for having sexual activity with vulnerable, trafficked, Virginia? Every day is a school day.

IveHadItUpToHere · 16/07/2023 02:04

Lots of people are using it to attack The Sun - and for them that means making Huw the victim. I think the other issue is that the young person in the PS story refused to lie to the lawyers about their relationship and the young person had a number of high profile celebs who were still in contact with him. It made it harder to spin that PS was the victim.
The anonymity of the young people and staff affected by Huw, means people with dubious motives have been able to smear them. There's a real lobby pushing that older men can do whatever the hell they like relating to sex and it doesn't matter who is hurt in the process.

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