Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Re sister’s requests

71 replies

SugarOverload · 15/07/2023 09:09

My sister and I both have 2 year olds. Born a couple of months apart. I also have an older girl (7).

I was suppose to have my niece last week for the day so my sister could pick up an extra shift. She tells me money is tight right now. In my view she is a bit of a helicopter parent, but each to their own, and she made some requests.

That I take my niece to another room for a nappy change to provide privacy, my DH work from home and there’s a chance he could walk through for a coffee for example. She also doesn’t want her changed in front on 7 year old. Whether I agree or not, it’s not a hassle so I said fine. Future note for further in the post, this would of course involve me leaving my son for a few minutes in a very baby proofed living room.

She said my niece struggles with food more than my 2 year old so can I cot up food smaller than I usually would. Ok, done.

She then calls me the night before asking that I do not leave my niece in the living room at all and that I take her with me wherever I go. I said I’m not doing that, I’ll have 3 children with me and I’ll need to get on with other things. At most it’ll be a few minutes, for a wee, make a snack, put a few clothes away, etc, and my stairs are in my living room so I can hear them well. There are stair gates in front of the kitchen and stairs, no breakables in reach, no small toys or ornaments, all furniture is bolted to the wall.

I also pointed out she expects me to leave my son in the same living room to change her daughter in privacy. She said it’s not the same because I’m happy to leave him for a couple minutes. She also asked if DH could stop work to watch my niece for a couple of minutes if I need a wee, etc. I said no.

Whether I think it’s safe of not AIBU to think she shouldn’t make requests that involve me doing something with my child that she’s not happy with for hers.

Similar thing have happened before, when they were first born she stayed overnight with me while our partners worked away. She slept on the other side of the bed (DH’s side, sheets changed!) and put up a travel cot. There’s a wardrobe that side with a couple bits on the top. She was worried they’d jump off and fall in the cot so, although they weren’t near the edge, I made sure everything was pushed back. The cot wasn’t even up against the wardrobe, and even in the impossible event something did fall, it wouldn’t have landed in the cot. I put it down to being a first time mum and thought nothing much more, until she said ‘well if you feel it’s safe can we swap and your baby go hear instead. I said no, mainly because of all the moving of cots last thing at night (because she also didn’t think my cot was safe, so we would of had to move cots about not just swap the babies).

Although both babies were perfectly safe, it hurt that she felt happy to put my baby in a situation she didn’t think was safe to ensure her own was ok.

OP posts:
MammaTo · 15/07/2023 11:32

Tbh I’d of taken offence at her asking for the baby’s nappy to be changed in a different room to my husband.
What does she think he is?
Obviously she has some serious post natal anxiety issues that need addressing because to me I’d take it she was implying my husband was something awful.

PimpMyFridge · 15/07/2023 11:32

Crikey. That's all a bit much as a package isn't it. It would be easier to swallow if she felt these standards should apply to all but requesting to put your child into a situation she felt was unsafe for her own is odd. Perhaps she knows deep down or was safe but couldn't stop the worry so just wanted her emotional trigger taken away...
Sounds like a bit of a mental health problem to be. Jolly difficult to handle though, cos do you push back or indulge, which is least worse in terms of happy children and happy sisters etc.

Callyem · 15/07/2023 11:34

She is being ridiculous and needs to learn to control her anxiety around it or her poor child will never be allowed to do anything.

SugarOverload · 15/07/2023 11:36

She’s had always been a bit like this I guess but it’s definitely got worse since my niece. Like she never looked after my first or ever offered to do a nappy because she was always too anxious about it.

my mum also feels untrusted

OP posts:
Moomuffin · 15/07/2023 11:38

Bugger that… I’d tell her to get a fucking grip and refuse babysit until she pulled herself together!
And I say that as someone who was very anxious as a FTM!

LuckySantangelo35 · 15/07/2023 11:38

Your sister sounds like a right pain in the arse

though I imagine if you said no to looking after her kid she would change her tune pretty quick and quit the ridiculous requests!

LuckySantangelo35 · 15/07/2023 11:39

Also, I would love to know who has voted YABU!!

those who have - why?!

Sapphire387 · 15/07/2023 13:03

I don't think I would be able to look after my niece in these circumstances. I think you need to tell her straight - either she trusts your judgement or she doesn't. If she doesn't, she needs to find other childcare.

I think the food chopped smaller request is reasonable. Not the nonsense about your DH stopping work while you go to the loo, but also having to be kept well away from nappy changes. And not the nonsense about her needing privacy from her cousins.

bananaboats · 15/07/2023 13:19

I wouldn't be doing her any favours again tbh and if anyone was accusing my DH of anything untoward I'd be rethinking my relationship with them!

PimpMyFridge · 15/07/2023 13:21

I agree with @Sapphire387 , a chat about the fact she needs to allow you to use your own judgement is needed. If she can't or won't trust others then she will have to be the only person who ever looks after her child.

UsingChangeofName · 15/07/2023 13:28

I'd have to have a conversation with her, and say that - whereas you were all willing to humour her a bit as a first time Mum, when the baby was little, her unrealistic demands are actually quite offensive.
Absolutely fine if her "rules" preventing her from having someone look after her child, mean she chooses not to earn the extra money she needs - that is her choice, and her loss if she makes that choice, but the implications about your dh and the child's grandfathers are quite offensive.
What does she think happens at Nursery at nappy changing time ? Confused

WeWereInParis · 15/07/2023 13:30

I don't know why you'd have someone babysit your child if you didn't feel you could trust them to make reasonable decisions regarding the child's safety.
Of course it's fine to have preferences and let people know about individual differences (like needing the food cut up more).

Incognito2023 · 15/07/2023 13:54

she thinks your DH is a potential danger when walking past while you change a toddler’s nappy, but also that he should stop work and supervise said child alone whenever you need to leave the room. What does she think is actually going to happen to her child if your DH walks through to get a cuppa while she’s being changed?

agree with this ⬆️ being very insulting to your DH (although it’s good he hasn't taken offence) and also to your mum’s partner.

Seriously, I would be suggesting to your sister again that she gets some help dealing with her issues if she expects (or wants) her family to spend time with her child. And you would be doing it on behalf of your DM too - it’s not fair that she is also feeling ‘untrusted’ - too much responsibility and pressure on her. Maybe the two of you could chat to her about it together? As a PP said, it’s understandable when her DD was tiny but getting ridiculous now…

AffableApple · 15/07/2023 14:00

She'd have lost me at being happy to deliberately have your older child left alone to save her seeing her naked bum. She doesn't trust your family, or you. Sack this off, if her kid slams her finger in a door or something, you are for it.

SugarOverload · 15/07/2023 14:49

I am going to say no in the future, it’s a shame because I enjoy having my niece, she’s a lovely little girl. The cousins get on well. I will also bring up getting some help again, although I’ll probably get it in the neck a bit for saying it.

OP posts:
gogomoto · 15/07/2023 14:57

I think she's quite frankly ridiculous on all fronts, if your dh even changed a nappy so what. She needs help for her anxiety for her own sake and that of her child. I would refuse and be very clear why

applesandmares · 15/07/2023 14:57

Just because you don't want to have her doesn't mean your children and niece can't still spend lots of time together! Hope it all works out

momonpurpose · 15/07/2023 15:24

AssertiveGertrude · 15/07/2023 10:27

She’s nuts sorry - no way would I agree to have the child

This! She will alienate everyone one soon with this nonsense

Nanny0gg · 15/07/2023 15:40

LadyBird1973 · 15/07/2023 10:48

Re the nappy changing, of course you give a child privacy, but it's totally possible to discreetly change a baby's nappy in a room where other children are playing. The dh possibly walking through the room on his way to the kitchen to get a coffee doesn't compromise the discretion that the OP would have and doesn't put the niece at risk. Insisting OP goes to a different room because there's a chance her dh might walk through his own living room at the same time is insulting. It implies she thinks her child is in danger from him.

My sons-in-law and son have changed nieces' and nephews' nappies...

Why wouldn't they if they were right there and it needed doing?

Wonder what the OP's sister does about male doctors/nurses?

LadyBird1973 · 15/07/2023 15:51

@Nanny0gg there's no reason why your son/son in law shouldn't change a nappy. I think it's fair to change a nappy quickly and discreetly since that's important to the OPs sister - most people are motivated to change a nappy as quickly and with as little fuss as possible, since babies pee as soon as a nappy comes off and wriggle a lot!
But the whole going to another room is batshit.

I'd actually be really upset if my sister was happy to expose my children to a level of risk she wouldn't expose her own to (even though it's her perceived risk rather than actual risk). It's like she doesn't give a shit about OPs child!

pyjamalife · 15/07/2023 15:59

MisschiefMaker · 15/07/2023 09:42

I think most of her requests were reasonable- not wanting her DD changed in front of your DH (although weird that you can't do it in front of your 2 yr old), food cut up smaller so her DD will eat it. But you were right to draw the line at not leaving her alone for even a minute in a childproofed room. I'm assuming no backstory where the child has been injured on your watch.

I agree with this one.

New posts on this thread. Refresh page
Swipe left for the next trending thread