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To not want the dc in economy while we are in business?

316 replies

Flymeinbusiness · 27/06/2023 19:30

Would be great to get others opinions...
We had some flyer miles and managed to book a much looked forward to, long haul, trip in business class for us and our 2 DC - 10 &11 in the summer holidays. Fast forward a few months and the PIL have decided to join us for the beginning part of the trip and booked economy tickets to join us. (They don't have any miles and the price a few months later for business for them both was unaffordable.)I feel terrible that my in-laws who are in their 70s will be in the back of the plane while my DH, DC and I will have big seats to ourselves. My DH thinks that both DC should take the economy seats and that they will be okay alone for 8 hours given we aren't too far away if they need us but I think one of us parents should be with 1 DC in economy instead as I don't want them alone on the flight. He thinks IBU to not let them and that I should enjoy my seat and not sit in economy. (I don't mind either although business will be a nice start to the holidays) Am I being overprotective? (Kids are good flyers generally and have done quite a few long hauls in the past)

OP posts:
ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 27/06/2023 23:29

FatGirlSwim · 27/06/2023 23:24

What might happen…

DC fight and argue
DC get upset and can’t get to their parents
DC mess about and disturb other passengers
Random adult starts telling them off and they spend eight hours scared / uncomfortable.
Random adult makes them feel uncomfortable in any way at all and they can’t get to parents.
They’re air sick,
They’re scared.
They just want their parents.

They’re still quite young. Flying unaccompanied minor is a different thing as airline staff take responsibility.
For eight hours they wouldn’t be able to get to their parents as you can’t just walk into business class.

They aren't locked in the hold. If there is a problem, one of their parents can go back to them.

Sitting around fabricating scenarios about a perfectly routine airline flight is absurd. Are they really such snowflakes? How do they manage school or walking around the neighbourhood?

Ten and 11 year olds should be capable of being responsible and well-behaved in public without a parent hovering over them.

tkwal · 27/06/2023 23:32

1 parent , 1 child in business for first half of flight, swap for other half...or any other combination that doesn't leave the children unaccompanied,although the airline might prefer you to sit in the seats you booked

FatGirlSwim · 27/06/2023 23:32

How will the parents know if there’s a problem?

You’re being a bit silly. Not sure you’re all that familiar with 10/11 year olds really. Very few I know would be confident in this situation and even fewer parents would be ok with it.

Newjobformoremoney · 27/06/2023 23:34

I’m enjoying how no one is factoring the airlines rules into this.

VWVWVW · 27/06/2023 23:34

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 27/06/2023 23:20

No, but I've been that age and flown unaccompanied transatlantic and from S. America to the US mutliple times, at that age. (We lived overseas due to my father's line of work). And we didn't have in-flight entertainment systems, smartphones and all the other amenities. One paperback book and a small notebook & pen to tide me over for 9 hours.

Perhaps we were just more competent and resourceful than today's 10-year-olds, who knows. But it's hardly a dangerous environment.

The idea that children would get a luxury experience while their elders were cramped back in economy on the same plane is just beyond the pale.

And OP, please don't plan on playing musical seats, disrupting the passengers around you in both cabins. It's tacky and probably not allowed. Can your children really not entertain themselves and nap, at that age?

Well most children haven't had that experience.

I don't see in 70's as that old they'll be fine in economy too.

cestlavielife · 27/06/2023 23:35

Suggest PIK uograde to premium or business at the airport checkin.
Their choice their decision

SmartHome · 27/06/2023 23:40

I'd suggest your DH and his dad take the economy seats and you, MIL and the DC have a lovely time in business.

Realistically you could start off in your purchasesed seats and then let MIL and PIL.swapmwoth DH and one of the kids swap with them for an hour or so during the flight.

I would under no circumstances leave both kids to it at one time in economy, that's really unfair to them.

Totalwasteofpaper · 27/06/2023 23:41

If he is so desperatefor them to go business he needs to pay for the upgrade or givr up his seat.
if he wont pay for an upgrade he needs to give up his seat.

It would be Me and my DC in business both ways.
DH switches seat to economy both ways.
Inlaws use your DHs seat and one does outbound business one does return.

Its not the 80s you cant just play musical chairs on a flight

LettingGoMovingOn · 27/06/2023 23:44

The idea that children would get a luxury experience while their elders were cramped back in economy on the same plane is just beyond the pale.

Elders 🙄 This attitude thar kids should give everything up because others are older really fucks me off. Flying economy is what most people do and presumably the in laws wouldn’t have booked if they couldn’t have coped with the ‘cramped’ conditions. 😅

Seadragonusgiganticusmaximus · 27/06/2023 23:51

I wonder how some people ever manage to leave their houses.

We’ve flown in a different cabin to DCs a few times and never had a problem. Lots of friends who did the same and never mentioned any issues. And if there is a problem, the cabin crew let you know very quickly.

Having said all that, I wouldn’t change in the OPs situation.

Probationnotontarget · 27/06/2023 23:52

They’ll be in economy on the way back anyway - so what does it matter - seems to me you are making this far more difficult than needs be.

Sit in the seats you’ve paid for - job done!

SmartHome · 27/06/2023 23:53

I've flown on BC a few times recently with work and DP has come along self pay in economy. We swapped several times on a 10 hour flight. This is on 2 different airlines. I think you could easily swap DH and MIL around for example.

SleepingStandingUp · 27/06/2023 23:55

DC and PIL in the fancy seats, you and DH can slum in kid free in economy.

SingingDogs · 27/06/2023 23:57

The idea that children would get a luxury experience while their elders were cramped back in economy on the same plane is just beyond the pale.

😂 Ridiculous post.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 27/06/2023 23:58

I think you should stick as you are - in the seats you’ve paid for. There are loads of reasons (listed by PPs) why having kids unaccompanied in economy is a bad idea. Plus those are really quite young ages - I have a ds 9 and no way would he be able to sit alone on a plane (or with a sibling) in a year or two.

DD was sat apart from exh and ds on a flight when she was 13 odd and was sat next to someone who made her feel really uncomfortable. It’s just not worth the risk.

Your PIL chose to book those seats - they can presumably sit in them! Why should your Dc lose out because of someone else’s freely made decision? Plus the PIL will have to sit in them on the way back.

Ladybird69 · 28/06/2023 00:04

Thats really interesting @Itisyourturntowashthebath @Takoneko and @Southlandssue when I last flew our coach was late for pick up so we ended up just about catching the flight. However there were no seats left together and we were split up from two of the children, so we basically spent the whole flight taking turns standing in the aisle next to them.
I wouldn’t leave the children in economy Op , I would leave the seating as it is.

Remaker · 28/06/2023 00:08

It’s only 8 hrs! My mother did multiple 20+ hr trips on her own in economy when she was in her 70s.

No way would I ever fly separately from my kids. If your DH feels so strongly then he should pay to upgrade them.

ChocChipHandbag · 28/06/2023 00:18

PiL will be allowed to visit you in BC if there's any spare room, and may even be selected for upgrade if it's one of those flights where there's been a mixup and you manage to let the cabin crew know that you're part of the same family.

”One of those flights where there’s been a mixup”? Do you mean a flight which has been overbooked in economy, where there are free seats in BC? So a few lucky economy passengers are selected to move up a class and free up some space in economy?

I’m sorry to tell you that “being part of the same family” doesn’t get you to the front of the upgrade queue. Upgrades are most likely to go to people who have lots of loyalty point.

Seddon · 28/06/2023 00:33

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 27/06/2023 23:08

I flew overseas as an unaccompanied minor at that age, with no problems. My parents weren't even on the aircraft let alone a cabin's length away.
What exactly are you worried about? Can they not use the entertainment system, sleep, eat, read, talk among themselves?

Put the kids in economy, let your in-laws enjoy an adult treat and relax.

When you fly as an unaccompanied minor the airline allocates a staff member to be responsible for looking after you. It's not the same as people just plonking their kids next to strangers at the back of the plane and hoping for the best. The seatbelt sign could be on for most of the flight and they wouldn't be able to get to their parents if they needed to.

EconomyClassRockstar · 28/06/2023 00:33

I'd personally stay in the seats I booked and my parents would laugh their heads off as they headed to the back and my kids and I all waved and cheered as they went past. Which is exactly what we did!

YeahIsaidit · 28/06/2023 00:36

RogersOrganismicProcess · 27/06/2023 19:51

Do the PILs have any mobility issues that would make sitting in a cramped position painful? If so I would do one adult and child in BC on the way there, and the other parent and child in BC the way back.

They decided to invite themselves along and booked their own seats, if they have mobility issues etc they should have considered that when booking, not a chance in hell should the kids get bumped in favour of granny and grandad who muscled in

Seddon · 28/06/2023 00:47

Flymeinbusiness · 27/06/2023 22:39

Thank you so much for all the comments! Lots to consider but I think the "What if something happens?" angle has made me feel like I need to stick to my guns and have at least one adult with a DC.. hopefully they won't mind one swap! We'll
ask first!
For context- we are pretty savvy with our miles credit cards and booking well in advance so have managed this a few times but my in-laws have never flown business and it'll be a huge treat for them.. plus - I think I'd feel uncomfortable sitting in a nice seat while the in-laws didn't especially as I've done it before- FIL has a bit of a tricky back too...They never travel more than 2 hours away and haven't left the UK for 3 years as they were nervous because of covid.. The way out is a day flight so I don't really mind being in economy with just 1 DC watching films...and I'd make DH swap half way - perhaps with the other DC so they both get a turn..
We aren't flying back with PIL so I'll enjoy my comfy seat on the way back.

PS: I definitely don't present a show with Phil but do love a good house programme!;)

If you're going to put this 'compromise' to your DH at least get him to do the first half in economy, in case the airline says no to you swapping.

DreamTheMoors · 28/06/2023 00:59

Why don’t you add money to the grandparents’ funds and upgrade them to Business Class?
Then everybody’s happy.

There’s absolutely no way, no how, I’d move my kids - or as a grandparent ask them to move from Business back to Economy.

There’s no shame in sitting in Economy.

YeahIsaidit · 28/06/2023 01:09

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 27/06/2023 23:08

I flew overseas as an unaccompanied minor at that age, with no problems. My parents weren't even on the aircraft let alone a cabin's length away.
What exactly are you worried about? Can they not use the entertainment system, sleep, eat, read, talk among themselves?

Put the kids in economy, let your in-laws enjoy an adult treat and relax.

If they wanted an adult treat, they should have booked business class seats when they decided they were going along too. Sure it's nice to treat people but not when it means your children missing out

Wanttobefree2 · 28/06/2023 01:19

Why should anyone else on the plane be responsible for your kids because all the adults want a jolly up the front :-( Because they will be if something happens.

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