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In laws always making us feel frivolous

55 replies

pappapigg · 25/06/2023 09:13

Including my young sister in law.

In laws have all the same furniture they've had for 40 years. Fair enough. Their house and their choice.

Some sofas have holes in them and their home could do with redecorating. However, it's all good. As long as they're happy.

When it comes to our stuff though... we moved from a flat to a house a couple of years ago.

Some of the stuff we had in our flat, hasn't made it. We had a cheap ikea table and chairs and we upgraded it to a pricey table and chair set, that should last us longer.

Anyhow. Every time we've replaced something, they always act really shocked. 'Omg what have you done with your old table ? ' ' can't you find another place for it ? '. They do the same with clothes for our kids - where are Bella's shoes from when she was a baby ? ' where is that pillow you had 5 years ago ? ' and so on.

We aren't frivolous by any means. I don't think it's unusual to upgrade 15 year old student furniture, once you move to a house. We've done it bit by bit. I haven't changed our bed, as I bought that later and it's still good.

I feel like they keep tabs on what we have and what we do. Same with any outside help we get - like a cleaner or gardener etc. they make us feel like we are terrible for getting help in and brag about how they did it all themselves. It's really frustrating. All the house stuff rests on me pretty much aa husband is never there and they clearly think I'm a rubbish mum and houswife ( I also work full time ). But they just never have a kind word to say about anything we do. Only criticisms and how they were so perfect and saved so much money all the time.

I've got neighbours who are of a similar age and they also regularly replace broken sofas etc. so it can't be an age thing. It's just frustrating to feel judged ALL the time. To always hear how life was harder for them ( it actually wasn't always ) and to always have to recognise their hardships, while any of ours are always swept away and dismissed.

OP posts:
Createausername1970 · 25/06/2023 09:39

How, when and why you decorate your house is entirely up to you, there is no right or wrong.

Don't over share information about getting a gardener etc. And if they say "where's your sofa" say "oh, did you want it to replace yours? Sorry, I will ask next time". Beat them back down, politely.

Mothwingdust · 25/06/2023 09:40

I don’t know the age of your in laws, probably similar to me. DH parents remember rationing and mine were refugees so raised in a very much do not waste anything and the make do and mend mentality which was a WW2 British propaganda slogan.

It honestly would not bother me if they made comments like that.

TreadSoftlyOnMyDreams · 25/06/2023 09:46

You need to develop a thicker skin. Why should you care ?

Own your choices. "Look at our lovely new table and chairs. It's so nice to have a good solid piece of furniture like yours. We've given the old one to a charity that helps homeless etc "

My cleaner is a godsend with DH away so much and work is so full on right now. It feels a bit unnecessary but it gives me a few hours to spend with child x

Be bright and breezy and pretend like you don't give a shit. Eventually you won't ! 😉

AlyssumandHelianthus · 25/06/2023 09:49

I'd just make a joke of it. It will be a very ingrained attitude, and not something to get into a conflict about.

Hoppinggreen · 25/06/2023 09:51

People can’t make you feel a certain way if you are confident in your choices
Ignore them but consider why you care about what they say

Tendu · 25/06/2023 09:52

Sceptre86 · 25/06/2023 09:37

Don't overshare and have responses when they bring things up. My parents had a single wage coming in and 4 kids. They couldn't replace stuff as quickly as we can or buy as expensive stuff. They were also supporting my grandparents. Both dh and I work, like you we aren't extravagant but do spend and save relative to our incomes. I was looking at buying a bbq which was about £300ish and my dad commented that it was a heck of a lot of money to spend on something we can't use all year round. I just told dad that we want a bigger one and that's actually a fairly low price as some are a lot more expensive, plus we can afford it. He got the message. I'm actually looking at one more expensive by a better brand but don't feel the need to share.

I think when you are used to having to save, budget very carefully to make ends meet that kind of behaviour stays with you even if you do come into more money. At least I know my parents are like this.

I wouldn't go low or no contact over it just tell them that as you both work you can afford it and going over stuff like this is very tiresome.

Or the opposite. My ILs were dirt poor. They had five children by the age of 23 and lived in two rooms over a grocery shop. Now my Mil in particular has a horror of ‘looking poor’, which I think is in part what fuels her continual redecoration of their house, and their horror of other people who don’t maintain the outside of their houses because ‘What will people think?’ My parents, both of whom also grew up dirt poor, are similar. They would probably go hungry before they would let the outside of their house look unkempt.

pappapigg · 25/06/2023 09:57

Hoppinggreen · 25/06/2023 09:51

People can’t make you feel a certain way if you are confident in your choices
Ignore them but consider why you care about what they say

I don't know. I guess it bothers me to feel like others think I'm an idiot ? It really bothers me actually. I then find it hard to spend time with them. Is that strange ?

OP posts:
determinedtomakethiswork · 25/06/2023 09:58

OP, did your mother-in-law go out to work?

sqirrelfriends · 25/06/2023 10:00

My in laws used to be the same but about food, they make everything from scratch including butter, mayo and yogurt. I think they’d buy a cow for milk if they had the space.

I have pointed out to them a number of times that working full time, it’s difficult to find time to make these things and they thankfully don’t mention it as much anymore. I actually have the time to do those things now but honestly, I just don’t want to.

stargirl1701 · 25/06/2023 10:05

They don't think you are an idiot.

They experienced societal and family post-war trauma as children.

They cannot comprehend the world of plenty you grew up in and inhabit now.

Speak to them with compassion and understanding. Feel compassion and understanding.

Read.

Childhood: Growing Up in the Not-So-Friendly Baby Boomer Years: Growing Up in the Not-So-Friendly ‘Baby Boomer’ Years amzn.eu/d/3VgKAPv

pappapigg · 25/06/2023 10:07

stargirl1701 · 25/06/2023 10:05

They don't think you are an idiot.

They experienced societal and family post-war trauma as children.

They cannot comprehend the world of plenty you grew up in and inhabit now.

Speak to them with compassion and understanding. Feel compassion and understanding.

Read.

Childhood: Growing Up in the Not-So-Friendly Baby Boomer Years: Growing Up in the Not-So-Friendly ‘Baby Boomer’ Years amzn.eu/d/3VgKAPv

They also raised a family in a favourable economic time with cheap house prices etc.

My in laws already had several luxury cars ( plus a 5 bedroom house ) before they were 30.

They could also talk to us with some compassion, but they don't. They choose to pick holes in everything we do.

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LacieLane · 25/06/2023 10:08

My parents are similar. I stand up my for my own decisions. ‘We work hard, we have savings, why wouldn't we enjoy/use our money to help us’. ( time, effort, enjoy).

They scrimp for what. Use your money to make life easier, newer car that is reliable, so that you are not scared to go out, quality clothes that last, a dishwasher.
MIL is in a nursing home costing £4,800 per month. She should have enjoyed her money more than she did, when she could. ( though tbf did have good holidays, quality items at home, great clothes).

MuserDame · 25/06/2023 10:09

I know what you mean. It's irritating but I'd do nothing. Say nothing. Don't react. In the past I did the opposite. It never changes anybody's views. I have a family member who acts like I'm his financial 'ward' He would like me to run decisions past the committee so to speak.

When I moved in I could afford to do NOTHING with it, just live in it. Then I had hall stairs and landing done and my bedroom is next. My relative who moved to a brand new house with fitted wardrobes in every room acts like he personally gave me money and I spent it on drugs. I am responsible and I saved money, and now I'm spending some money investing in to my house, I'm preventing its value from declining disproportionately compared with houses around it. I said this, justifying my decision to do up my house, and he kind of rolled his eyes, like ''ok Ceaucescu''

I should just ignore it but it makes it seem like his core belief is that he deserves a nice house (and he's had one, always) but I don't deserve that.

I'm trying not to react though. I have lost other family members through having a visible reaction to their patronising behaviors. .

stargirl1701 · 25/06/2023 10:12

They did @pappapigg but you cannot discount early trauma so glibly.

Childhood ACEs shape who we are. They cannot be an ACE with more impact than WW2.

Sarahtm35 · 25/06/2023 10:15

My mothers the same. I think they forget that furniture 40 years ago was built to last in fact most things were.

SiouxsieSiouxStiletto · 25/06/2023 10:17

My DMIL was very lovely in many ways but one of the things she regularly did was comment on any help we had and said how "she did it all herself". Fair enough but she didn't have a job and I do.

I used to smile and say something along the lines of "oh I would love to stay at home like you did, but that's just not possible".

Daffodilsandtuplips · 25/06/2023 10:25

I’d ask them why it bothers them so much how you spend your money. It isn’t coming out of their pockets..talking of pockets, Shrouds don’t have pockets.

Muu · 25/06/2023 10:31

Ignore it! My family are similar. All the old high quality furniture. DH and I got a new kitchen put in and when they next visited the only comments were along the lines of “it didn’t need doing!” as though they were embarrassed on my behalf. I could tell they’d been badmouthing me for it before they showed up because I’d only told my mum (the only one who would be interested/pleased as she always wanted a new kitchen herself) and none of them were surprised. They actually do have money and spend a hell of a lot of it on their horses and a couple of other flashy hobbies as far as I can see. But home/furniture updates really piss them off!

SeaSaltAir · 25/06/2023 10:44

What has it got to do with them? Just play them at their own game and act shocked that they are shocked. Or go to their home and act shocked they still have the same broken old sofa.

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 25/06/2023 10:52

Tell them “Listen, I know you think holding onto broken furniture with a pre-decimal currency price tag on it is somehow virtuous, but I like woodworm-free tables and sitting on a sofa without a broken spring going up my arse, thank you very much.”

They’ll be horrified, but it’ll solve the problem of them popping in every five minutes.

DewinDwl · 25/06/2023 10:53

I wish I could give advice! DH's parents are like that and oh it used to cause so much friction.

I was raised to work, save, enjoy and spend wisely, and was always told that it's rude to talk about money - how much did you pay for that, how much do you earn, the neighbour's new car cost xyz, etc. Having FIL criticise me for spending £20 on a pair of jeans got the same frosty response as if he'd asked me about my sex life. We have never asked them for money, never needed or wanted to.

MIL will not shut up about bargains, how expensive is this or that, look at all the money they've spent on that extension, it's ridiculous, isn't it, it's cheaper in lidl, are you sure you don't want this carpet offcut? I'm sure the damp smell will come off, do you want this broken lampshade that so and so gave me?, I'm glad the children like their presents, the original price was £1.50 and then they discounted it to 99p but I knew they would lower it again and I walked past the shop every day until I saw that they were down to 89p blah blah blah. Tedious, cringey and in really bad taste.

They are now divorced so we don't see them that often = less friction. FIL has had health scares and has discovered that it's OK to spend your hard-earned money sensibly. MIL never worked after getting married despite being well educated, healthy and smart - she is brimming with bored energy and chooses to pour it into being tight-fisted, it's her way of life despite always having been well off on other people's money.

MermaidEyes · 25/06/2023 10:58

Perhaps reply with "well if you're not spending any money on new stuff, all the more for us when you pop your clogs". Alternatively, stop giving a fuck what other people think. There will always be someone judging you for something. Ignore and move on.

Thepossibility · 25/06/2023 11:09

I feel you my MIL is the same.
I'm dreading her next visit as we've just got a new dining table and chairs and I can still remember her moaning about what we paid for our (cheap!) old one 20+ years ago.

EllaRaines · 25/06/2023 11:47

The phrase 'What's it got to do with you' fits nicely into these scenarios.

MammaTo · 25/06/2023 11:48

TreadSoftlyOnMyDreams · 25/06/2023 09:46

You need to develop a thicker skin. Why should you care ?

Own your choices. "Look at our lovely new table and chairs. It's so nice to have a good solid piece of furniture like yours. We've given the old one to a charity that helps homeless etc "

My cleaner is a godsend with DH away so much and work is so full on right now. It feels a bit unnecessary but it gives me a few hours to spend with child x

Be bright and breezy and pretend like you don't give a shit. Eventually you won't ! 😉

Definitely this.

OP you don’t need their approval so why be bothered? Just say oh well I like my new table and carry on with your day.