How far would you go to accommodate a vegan?

[Juicyj1993]

In a few weeks we're hosting a bbq for my Husband's birthday.

We have about a dozen guests coming, one of whom is vegan. As we don't normally buy vegan food I've started looking at what we'd normally buy and what is and isn't vegan. To make sure the vegan has the same variety of choice as everyone else I'm going to have to spend quite a bit on alternatives. As we have the non vegan alternatives we won't be eating the vegan versions, so they'll either go home with the guest or be thrown.

How much would you accommodate a vegan?

Would I be unreasonable to provide vegan burger with vegan cheese, plus bun and nothing else or do I need to go the whole hog and get vegan sausages, vegan condiments and vegan coleslaw?

Ps they are vegan by choice, not for medical reasons

Someone put it very well upthread when they compared it to how Jimmy Saville loved children

Wow. Just when I thought some comments couldn't get any lower. To compare meat-eaters to a pedophile is, well, I can't believe that post is still standing. Just when my view of (some) vegans couldn't get any more rock bottom. They really have no idea just how they come across.

Vegans actually don't have a bad reputation. Most people are too busy minding their business to give us a thought.
There is a minority of people who for their own reasons, (about which we have speculated already) feel the need to sneer at and criticise our diet and attribute negative stereotypes to us; that we are sanctimonious, joyless, demanding, hypocritical etc. But like all stereotyping of people based on one shared characteristic, few with intelligence take it seriously. So they are thankfully in the minority, with most people either indifferent or respectful, even at times admiring.
These threads give a skewed perspective because they act as a magnet for the militant meat eaters and those with a personal interest in trashing veganism, who like to believe everyone feels as they do.

It's not as simple as that 'comparing eating meat to a paedophile' (he was a child abuser as well as a paedophile).

It is comparable not because the poster thinks eating meat is as bad as being a child sexual abuser, but that Saville continued to state how much he loved children-and he caused them severe harm.
Claiming to love animals while (as I detailed above) contributing to an industry where they live short, often terrifying lives and mostly suffer abuse, separation from their children, awful conditions and then a terrifying brutal death, is the comparable factor.

It's bizarre to say you love a whole population while (for example) you actually love dogs/cats/hamsters and hate seaworld/circuses/the dog meat industry but are happy to contribute to the severe mistreatment of other animals in that population.

Just be careful to keep the vegan food separately. Not because of cross contamination, but because sometimes a meat eater will think they'd like to try it, and then there's nothing left for the vegan to eat.

I do a massive potato salad with nee potatoes, vegan mayo and chives.

You'd never know it was vegan!

Vegan here. Have not read the thread. A vegan burger plus a bit of salad (eg. Pasta salad with beans) would suit me. Tbh I hate when people go to too much effort, and often the food is not what I would choose, so a couple burgers (veggie for me, rather than those fake meat ones) (with bun, pickles, leaves and cheese), a salad, as well as a green salad and maybe a bag of crisps I could eat and I would be fine. Most vegans will have eaten beforehand and some people as so stupid about the thought of eating vegan food (ever had an apple?) And they may spend time waving food at the vegan making animal noises as that is hilarious 🙄.

Thanks 👍

Actually Vegans do have a bad reputation. I'm not saying they're all bad but some don't help and cause them to have the bad reputation. The ones I've spoken to have been total aholes.

It's ridiculous isn't it.

Erm yes you can. You don't know how I physically/emotionally feel. I fucking love my cats and bird. And you can't come back and say that's different in some countries they eat cats and birds.

I think YOU don't know how you feel.

You might profess to love SOME animals.

You certainly don't love all animals though.

Also, it's cruel to keep birds.

I feel the same about non-vegans. Though we aren't the group killing animals, so I can see why pointing that out gets your back up.

This thread has gone completely insane. Nobody is coming out of it well. Maybe time for it to die a quiet death?

You're mistaking your personal negative view for a negative view held by the majority of people. The second is a bad reputation. The first is just your opinion.
I've been both a meat eater and a vegan so I'm well placed to have garnered uncensored opinions had they been forthcoming, and I can assure you, outside of these threads few people give a thought to vegans one way or the other.
I'm actually curious as to why you care so much as it happens?

That's a really interesting article, love finding out new stuff like this!

Doesn’t get my back up.

I never anticipate that anyone I don’t know who’s coming - like a partner - might be a vegan. If someone is a vegan and they can eat something that is being provided anyway, then fine. If that’s not acceptable, they can go without.

If I’m told beforehand that someone’s vegan I ask them to bring their own food and if necessary cook it themselves.

Veganism is nothing like religion or food allergy/intolerance. It’s just a choice. So they can sort themselves out.

Someone invited me round for dinner several weeks in advance knowing I was a vegetarian. They told me to bring my own food as they weren't prepared to make me anything. I did, but brought plenty of extra. It turned out his meat dish for everyone else took an age to make and was inedible, so all the other guests ate mine too and enjoyed it. It was most amusing.

Someone invited you for dinner then refused to make you anything?? WTAF? I really could not be
friends with anyone that rude. What the guck is wrong with people?

Yes. It's weird behaviour 😄 People can be very strange indeed.

Totally mad

Why?

Why should I pander to vegans? They made the choice to be such fussy eaters. I don’t know what’s in all the stuff I use and I’m not going to spend time checking it, buying alternatives and cooking it all separately.

Vegans wouldn’t compromise for me or any other non-vegan. Why are they so fucking special?

Nah, they prob just disliked you and wanted you to go away, understandable if you were anything like you have been here.

What makes you think they wouldn’t compromise for you?

Would you accommodate vegetarians?
Teetotallers? or would you just provide beer, wine or gin?

You sound narrow minded, selfish and just plain thick tbh

I haven’t met a vegan who’d buy and cook with meat, dairy, eggs etc. It’s true that I’ve only met a few, but tell me if I’m wrong and vegans are generally happy to do so. The few I know are totally finicky about animal products and wouldn’t.

Vegetarians don’t usually shun dairy or eggs. Many eat fish. (They’d be able to eat the fish and the Greek salad we’re having tomorrow with a bbq. I’m not making the Greek salad without feta.)

People who drink alcohol also drink soft drinks. Soft drinks are always available, for drivers if no-one else. That’s a foolish comparison.

I’ll plead guilty to not being willing to indulge vegans’ self-imposed rules. But the selfishness and stupidity are all yours.