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How far would you go to accommodate a vegan?

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Juicyj1993 · 24/06/2023 23:22

In a few weeks we're hosting a bbq for my Husband's birthday.

We have about a dozen guests coming, one of whom is vegan. As we don't normally buy vegan food I've started looking at what we'd normally buy and what is and isn't vegan. To make sure the vegan has the same variety of choice as everyone else I'm going to have to spend quite a bit on alternatives. As we have the non vegan alternatives we won't be eating the vegan versions, so they'll either go home with the guest or be thrown.

How much would you accommodate a vegan?

Would I be unreasonable to provide vegan burger with vegan cheese, plus bun and nothing else or do I need to go the whole hog and get vegan sausages, vegan condiments and vegan coleslaw?

Ps they are vegan by choice, not for medical reasons

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Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 27/06/2023 09:32

Begsthequestion · 25/06/2023 00:06

Silly fad it is. Most people grow out of it thankfully. I know 4 or 5 young (28-30 y.o) people who were vegans from around 16-18. Not any more. As I said, they grew out of it.

i wonder when the 250 million vegans in India and China will finally grow out it.

When they can afford meat.

Oakbeam · 27/06/2023 09:33

We always accommodate vegetarian guests at a bbq. It isn’t hard to provide the food itself. Cooking it can be a right faff though because they either have to be fed first, which is a bit divisive, or two barbecues need to be used.

I have no experience if catering for vegans but I imagine it would be similar.

RLT24 · 27/06/2023 09:34

I’d accommodate every guest no matter their diet choices with a full meal so I’d provide a burger/sausage and sides. You can make sides for all guests that the vegan can eat eg veg kebabs/grilled portobello mushrooms/lettuce, tomato, red onion/mixed salad with olive oil and lemon juice dressing

Chulak · 27/06/2023 09:35

My mum's vegan.

She won't eat anything at a BBQ that's been cooked on the BBQ so I just buy her some falafel and she has that with the salad/ crisps/ etc that everyone has at BBQs anyway.

I used to buy a disposable BBQ for her food but I got annoyed at that as they never work very well.

LuckySantangelo35 · 27/06/2023 09:38

I would go VERY far to accommodate them because I think it’s a great thing they are doing
how can it not be worthy of support?! Animal welfare in the meat trade and also eggs/ milk etc is horrendous.
I love vegans

Oakbeam · 27/06/2023 09:39

I love vegans

So do I, but I couldn’t eat a whole one.

LuckySantangelo35 · 27/06/2023 09:39

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 27/06/2023 09:32

When they can afford meat.

@Allthegoodnamesarechosen
@Begsthequestion

its not a fad.
and lots of people are not vegans cos they can’t afford meat. It’s because they abhor the horrific animal
welfare standards (or lack of)

NeonSoda · 27/06/2023 09:46

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 27/06/2023 09:32

When they can afford meat.

Imagine being so openly ignorant about the fact that you think people are vegans only because they can't afford meat.

And imagine thinking it was ok to be a bit racist while you're at it.

RoyalGala · 27/06/2023 09:51

EbonyRaven · 24/06/2023 23:50

OK I'll bite. Yes I HAVE given them my dietary requirements, but they never provide them - because VEGAN! We must provide for them though MUSTN'T we?! Wink

Well not anymore. They can jog on. I never go out of my way for vegans anymore. Silly fad it is. Most people grow out of it thankfully. I know 4 or 5 young (28-30 y.o) people who were vegans from around 16-18. Not any more. As I said, they grew out of it.

Well off course they’re not going to purchase meat as it goes against their morals. Much the same as Muslims who don’t eat pork, they don’t eat it elsewhere, nor would they buy it. It’s not a silly fad, it’s good for environmental reasons and health reasons, there’s also the ethical side that is the biggest deciding factor for most people.

Dryinginthesea · 27/06/2023 09:53

To be honest I couldn’t be arsed. I might supply stuff that was naturally vegan- French dressing for salad, roast vegetables on the bbq. If they were a close friend I’d ask what burger alternatives they wanted (because as others have said many are fussy when it comes to meat alternative or not) but I wouldn’t do much more.

i can’t stand food waste and the idea of buying mayo, condiments vegan cheese (🤢)and a range of burgers and sausages for one person that are then likely to be thrown away does my head in.

I used to be accommodating, but after repeatedly hosting friends for the weekend and being left with stacks of the stuff -that they then refuse to take away with them I don’t bother any more. I usually offer and say why don’t you take the rest of the milk, ice cream, butter spread and they just wink and say oh you should try it. I have, I don’t like it, it was bought solely for you it is now being thrown away… pisses me off

saraceng · 27/06/2023 10:04

First off, ask the vegan for advice. ‘I don’t really know much about vegan food so I thought I’d ask you so I don’t go wrong’ kind of thing. They will likely be more than happy to help - indeed as a vegan I would usually offer to bring something myself. Particularly coming to a bbq.
Vegan food can be extremely tasty (there are some amazing bbq type foods out there - as someone said, try Aldi for inexpensive but tasty). Get vegan coleslaw for everyone - Coop and Tesco regularly stock it and it’s cheap. Get a jar of vegan Mayo - with the Hellmans you literally can’t tell the difference. There are some great suggestions in this thread.
Finally… shape up. Stop treating the vegan like some weird alien - and try some of the food. Why even think of throwing it away?

CurlewKate · 27/06/2023 10:05

@Banderbear "If I was invited to a BBQ hosted by somebody who wasn’t a vegan and I had to eat fake meat I’d be devastated."

Who said anything about fake meat?

ifthe · 27/06/2023 10:11

I used to really enjoy hosting but not anymore. I read somewhere that the number of people with allergies has gone up 500% since 1990. When I used to host family there was one meal- possibly a few different options of sides put down but it was EASY and enjoyable. Now in my family we have one nut allergy who also cant have seasame, one coeliac a vegeterian and a vegan and it makes things so difficult. Catering for one or 2 of these is fine - all 4 is a nightmare. The veggie doesn't want to be lumped in with the vegans, so many vegan products contain nuts.... I dont actually have enough space to cook everything that everyone wants. And then the veggie will get annoyed because even though they get first pick the meat eaters have then had the rest of the halloumi and whilst everyone else has the option for seconds they cant. Quite frankly hosting family or friends used to be enjoyable for me- now it is just an obligation- I don't have the headspace to get it right for so many different options (and for two of my family members if I get it wrong it could be a disater). I would be tempted to do what the Americans would call a pot luck and ask everyone to bring a dish- but then the nut allergy gets annoyed because they dont trust what everyone else brings.

CurlewKate · 27/06/2023 10:14

@ifthe It's easy. Just cook food that suits all the criteria, then serve it with breads and salads that are segregated as necessary. I'll do you a menu if you like.

mast0650 · 27/06/2023 10:20

The only thing I'd really be getting specially is a vegan burger and/or sausages. I'd check the rolls (they are usually vegan). Ketchup, mustard etc are vegan. I wouldn't bother with vegan cheese as it is usually pretty disgusting (and I wouldn't do cheese generally anyway as too fiddly). I would do either corn on the cob or veggie kebabs for everyone. I'd also make sure that most if not all of the salads were vegan. But then I'm not a fan of mayo-based salads anyway eg potato salad (with olive oil, herbs), green salad, and one more (eg roast vegetable and/or pulse based). The trickiest thing is dessert. I'd quite likely do a non-vegan dessert I'm afraid, but then also offer a big bowl of berries and/or sorbet.

My sisters are vegetarian and niece has a dairy allergy so quite used to working round these things. You don't have to do anything very much different really!

Bellaboo01 · 27/06/2023 10:23

I would just make all the condiments vegan (no-one will notice) and everyone can eat it.

Additional items that i would serve as 'sides' which are vegan and the meat eaters and vegans all eat:

  • Coleslaw; with vegan mayo
  • Potato salad: with vegan mayo
  • Salads - Vegan
  • Cous- Cous - Vegan
  • Pasta Salad - I normally just do a vegan pesto (from the jar) - Vegan
  • Tomato and Onion salad - Vegan

I personally would serve the vegan/vegetarian separate from the meat completely. I have a separate little BBQ (as i know a lot of vegetarian/vegans) or i would cook in the oven as i would never eat food that is cooked on a BBQ as there will always be meat residue left on the BBQ.

BarbaraofSeville · 27/06/2023 10:26

You don't even need vegan mayo for coleslaw, potato salad etc. Just make a version with a citrus/oil/vinegar/herb type dressing instead.

mewkins · 27/06/2023 10:26

Oakbeam · 27/06/2023 09:27

This is a weird viewpoint. Most people have a bbq to hang out in a garden on the pimms and beer rather than to do a serious meat cook off. This is going by my own experience where the only 'meat' on offer is value sausages and burgers and slices of plastic 'cheese'.

There’s no value sausages or burgers at our bbq’s. We generally
cook decent cuts of meat, or whole birds.

If you turn up with a really good salad, potatoes, anything veggie where you've made a bit of an effort with taste, guaranteed that ALL of the meat eaters will also want a bit.

That’s because most meat people who eat meat, like me, are omnivores. I don’t see vegetarian or vegan food, I just see food.

Not according to the poster I replied to 😄😄 If you don't eat meat then there's no point attending a BBQ apparently.

By the way I didn't mean that I cook value sausages...I meant that plenty I had attended only had this on offer.

Tiddlypomtiddlypom · 27/06/2023 10:28

Some of my closest friends are vegan. They never make any demands and are always happy to sort themselves, but I adore hosting friends and cooking for people, so I always make sure they’re well fed. It’s really not that hard, there’s lots of ‘naturally’ vegan recipes, and it’s not like non-vegans can’t eat vegan food. I won’t go full-vegan-menu for them, but I’d want them to feel well fed and cared about if I’d invited them over.

MegMez · 27/06/2023 10:29

It's not that deep. They won't have the meat or the cheese. A lot of food is naturally vegan. There are so many amazing salads and sides that we have as a meat eating family that also happen to be vegan and you could prep beforehand that everyone could eat like a big bowl of cous cous, vegetable skewers, slices of watermelon. Corn on the cob - just don't put butter on theirs. I think you're just overthinking it and making it a bigger deal than it needs to be.

BarbaraofSeville · 27/06/2023 10:31

mewkins · 27/06/2023 10:26

Not according to the poster I replied to 😄😄 If you don't eat meat then there's no point attending a BBQ apparently.

By the way I didn't mean that I cook value sausages...I meant that plenty I had attended only had this on offer.

And if you do eat meat, that's all you're allowed to have, as if you eat bread/salad/potatoes etc, you're stealing food from vegans mouths.

Not that you would want that food anyway, because it's special weirdy vegan food, that is only attractive to vegans.

NeonSoda · 27/06/2023 10:41

Dryinginthesea · 27/06/2023 09:53

To be honest I couldn’t be arsed. I might supply stuff that was naturally vegan- French dressing for salad, roast vegetables on the bbq. If they were a close friend I’d ask what burger alternatives they wanted (because as others have said many are fussy when it comes to meat alternative or not) but I wouldn’t do much more.

i can’t stand food waste and the idea of buying mayo, condiments vegan cheese (🤢)and a range of burgers and sausages for one person that are then likely to be thrown away does my head in.

I used to be accommodating, but after repeatedly hosting friends for the weekend and being left with stacks of the stuff -that they then refuse to take away with them I don’t bother any more. I usually offer and say why don’t you take the rest of the milk, ice cream, butter spread and they just wink and say oh you should try it. I have, I don’t like it, it was bought solely for you it is now being thrown away… pisses me off

Sounds like you've, sadly, not had the experience of tasting nice food that doesn't have animal products in.

You should try it sometime!

FizzingWhizzbee · 27/06/2023 10:42

I have a similar conundrum - I'm catering for a team bbq lunch, and a new team member is vegan on religious grounds. I'm totally happy to cater for her, that isn't an issue. But I'm wondering whether I even can - our bbq grill, all my pots and pans, oven trays, chopping boards and knives have previously been used to cook meat and meat products, and I have no choice but to store meat in the same fridge as anything non-meat. I'm not sure if she can make it yet, but if she can, I'll of course ask her about all of that and whether it is a problem. I would hate for her to miss out, but I can't magically make my kitchen entirely meat-product free.

LuckySantangelo35 · 27/06/2023 10:43

chupachucks · 25/06/2023 22:10

Pork pies, but eat the filling first 😁

@chupachucks

haha too funny!
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