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Take care of Maya

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Cantcopewiththeheat · 21/06/2023 18:01

Has anyone seen this on Netflix?

How could this have been allowed to happen?
I cried through so much of this

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ProudThrilledHappy · 21/06/2023 19:43

Just watched this OP, it’s tough because so often I see stories of children harmed by their loved ones and wonder why nothing was done, so I could understand why people might want to protect a child but in this case I am so astonished that they completely ignored the information provided by qualified medical specialists to deny treatment.

Sally Smith comes across as a bit arrogant and on a power trip

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Cantcopewiththeheat · 21/06/2023 20:05

@ProudThrilledHappy It was shocking! That poor girl…and mum 😔I’d be going insane if my Dd was there, truly awful

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Snoozingagain · 21/06/2023 20:21

It was so sad but 1000mgs of ketamine every few days, I mean, that was shocking too

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Cantcopewiththeheat · 21/06/2023 21:10

@Snoozingagain Yes, I agree, the method was really scary. Not sure what I’d do in that situation

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coffeedrinkers · 21/06/2023 22:28

I've just watched this, she did need that much ketermine though, the doctor said at the beginning it's the only way to treat it. Shocking that her diagnosis was just brushed under the carpet. I know social workers get a lot of stick for missing abuse but this wasn't the case with this girl, she'd been diagnosed!
Poor family and poor mum, truly devastating and avoidable.

mrstnov13 · 22/06/2023 15:10

Just finished watching this. That poor family, just so tragic.

007DoubleOSeven · 22/06/2023 15:11

What's it about?

skippy67 · 22/06/2023 15:42

007DoubleOSeven · 22/06/2023 15:11

What's it about?

Google it?

Highandlows · 22/06/2023 22:15

Just evil. All about money I bet. That Sally woman looks like she never had a family and is on a revenge mission.

Pippa12 · 22/06/2023 22:20

I’ve just watched this, it was horrendous. I would have been beside myself in that situation.

I did find the whole ketamine scenario really scary tho. I was abit confused at how well she looks now, I was curious if she still took all that ket? She was very articulate and mobile, a far cry from her previous condition.

Im not saying I thought her mum was abusing her, just that I was surprised at how well she looked compared to the videos of her childhood.

Barleysugar86 · 23/06/2023 23:44

Ooof. Just finished it. That one hit hard. The poor family.

I'm also a bit confused how Maya looks so much better now, but then it sounds like it's something that hits at the beginning of puberty in girls, maybe coming out the other end of puberty calms it down a bit.

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 23/06/2023 23:46

Pippa12 · 22/06/2023 22:20

I’ve just watched this, it was horrendous. I would have been beside myself in that situation.

I did find the whole ketamine scenario really scary tho. I was abit confused at how well she looks now, I was curious if she still took all that ket? She was very articulate and mobile, a far cry from her previous condition.

Im not saying I thought her mum was abusing her, just that I was surprised at how well she looked compared to the videos of her childhood.

Yes I was too. It's odd for sure, I mean that was enough to knock a bloody horse out!

Colinorpercy · 23/06/2023 23:53

I just happened upon it this afternoon so was not really prepared for it-just awful! That feeling of helplessness and being ignored is so scary.

endofagain · 23/06/2023 23:53

Ketamine was used to get the boys trapped in the cave in Thailand out safely. Obviously not as much as the child in the documentary had, but several bolus doses were given at stages on the way out because they had to be kept unconscious throughout. I assume the dose was carefully calculated and she was ventilated and monitored. I have read that the same technique has been used in veterinary medicine when an animal is in severe pain.

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 24/06/2023 08:15

Iirc they were very worried about using Ketamine but it was the lesser of the two evils. It's interesting that the Ketamine approach isn't widely used if it's so effective.

ZooMount · 24/06/2023 08:44

It was very tragic and upsetting, I couldn't imagine being told I couldn't see my daughter, and the hospital were very unkind and obviously there were some issues there...however on the other side, I still can't get my head around the mother committing suicide as she then made things even worse for her daughter and that's going to be on her mind for the rest of her life. Also, I've recently watched something about a Paralympics winner with this condition and granted she might have had different symptoms but she managed the condition with a totally different mindset with the help of her parents, so there might be something in it if her parents were so keen to give Ketamine etc rather than try and help her in other ways. She did get better once she was off it after all.

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 24/06/2023 14:10

ZooMount · 24/06/2023 08:44

It was very tragic and upsetting, I couldn't imagine being told I couldn't see my daughter, and the hospital were very unkind and obviously there were some issues there...however on the other side, I still can't get my head around the mother committing suicide as she then made things even worse for her daughter and that's going to be on her mind for the rest of her life. Also, I've recently watched something about a Paralympics winner with this condition and granted she might have had different symptoms but she managed the condition with a totally different mindset with the help of her parents, so there might be something in it if her parents were so keen to give Ketamine etc rather than try and help her in other ways. She did get better once she was off it after all.

I have a feeling the mother possibly had issues , she must've done to hang herself. I'm not convinced I'd have had utter faith in the the home situation had I been a medic with the belligerent way she was talking to the staff. Saying that, I can see myself being pretty belligerent being away from my sick child, I think it showed one side of the situation. I did a bit of googling and they've already won one law suit for 2.5 million dollars - I thought they had a big house for a fireman and a nurse!

Frequency · 24/06/2023 14:22

I watched this a few days ago. That poor, poor girl. I don't understand why her mother was not allowed to visit the child in the hospital under supervision.

Re the ketamine as far as I understood the massive doses were only supposed to be used when the condition deteriorated as a sort of "reset" and then once the condition was back under control she would go back on a therapeutic dose.

I hope for Maya's sake she is allowed to speak in the upcoming court hearing. She suffered so much, she deserves to have her voice heard.

notsofamous · 24/06/2023 14:39

Felt sorry for the brother too. Looked like he has also suffered so much through his childhood.

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 24/06/2023 14:46

It was interesting that the dad was allowed to see her , presumably because he was compliant with the hospital/ medics and Beata was not. Also during the text exchange been the doctor and Sally Smith the doctor said although they felt bad they still though the right thing had been done with regards to keeping Beata away from Maya. What a mess 😢

mainsfed · 24/06/2023 14:47

skippy67 · 22/06/2023 15:42

Google it?

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No need for that, it’s a valid question.

@007 it’s about a young girl with a rare condition who is taken into state custody because the doctors suspected her mother had Munchhausen by proxy.

afain · 24/06/2023 14:49

I feel so sorry for the family and this tragic outcome. I do however feel there was a lack of recognition that dr's have to consider the possibility of abuse. Certainly the treatment mum was asking for was very unorthodox. I have no doubt that dr's will sometimes get it wrong, but that should not stop them from asking difficult questions and considering the unthinkable.

fireflyloo · 24/06/2023 15:06

I think mums directness was possibly cultural and the intentions misinterpreted. She was also very knowledgeable which I'm sure got the professionals back up.

Hagnarok · 24/06/2023 15:12

I was horrified but not surprised. There's no way Sally Smith should have been the final say on whether abuse is present and the fact that she was the only medical professional who had a say was incomprehensible. The way she dismissed the parents was disgraceful. Also the behaviour of the doctors was reprehensible. I can only imagine what Maya overheard or was told from her carers. The social worker who was in-charge of her while she was in hospital seemed to be on a real power trip with Maya's mum.

It broke my heart when she asked if she could just speak with her daughter or give her a hug. I understand that she must have been completely overwhelmed, exhausted and devastated to do what she did. As she was told over and over that she was the issue maybe in her deteriorating state she thought that if she was out of the equation then Maya could at least be with the rest of her family. The documentary was frightening in how widespread the issue was and the lack of protection parents have when it comes to their children's health and wellbeing.

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 24/06/2023 15:35

fireflyloo · 24/06/2023 15:06

I think mums directness was possibly cultural and the intentions misinterpreted. She was also very knowledgeable which I'm sure got the professionals back up.

I thought the same about it being cultural. I'm sure it did get their backs up!