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Are other professions being secretly filmed for social media?

69 replies

pollyglot · 19/06/2023 23:04

I'm thoroughly pissed off with this culture of people assuming it's ok to film teachers and share the footage. I wonder what would have happened if I'd recorded and shared the A&E doctor (and no, it wasn't at all busy -we were the only ones there) who told my DH that he had strained a muscle lifting the shopping and to go home and watch some stuff on Youtube about careful lifting, when he presented with a very painful and swollen leg. I had told her that I was worried that he had a DVT. She scornfully dismissed me. Turns out he had an aneurysm and 2 days later was airlifted to a major hospital 200 miles away for emergency surgery. Lucky to have survived.

And the doc who asked me, on arrival in A&E with bradycardia, that if my heart stopped that night, did I want to be resuscitated? I'm basically fit and healthy, no other issues at all, active and contributing majorly to society, with so much to live for.

Then there was the lawyer who spent most of the hour I paid for to discuss family issues telling me about his family and how they'd made their money in confectionery, and that'll be basically my week's teacher's salary, thanks.

Everyone can make mistakes, do stupid things, be irritating. No-one should have to tolerate being publicly harassed and humiliated in that way, and I fear that it had become normalised, as teachers are fair game to everyone, it seems.

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HopelessBlue192 · 19/06/2023 23:07

Yes, the police constantly.

overwork · 19/06/2023 23:26

Definitely happens in hospitals and nothing can be done about it, as I discovered recently when one of my staff was filmed, against their permission, and the encounter posted on TikTok (not to mention the staff member wasn't actually involved in the initial interaction with the patient).

MissTrip82 · 19/06/2023 23:31

Hahahahhahahahhahahah.

I’m a doctor and am routinely filmed by patients. Both openly and secretly. I don’t worry about it all. It’s a sign the patient feels like they need to threaten me, so they’re obviously feeling stressed or like they won’t be believed. I’m behaving appropriately, I have no reason to be concerned, and if it makes the patient feel safer or more powerful (the way it makes you feel more powerful to spit venom at the doctors you’ve encountered on social media who no doubt themselves tell a very different version of events to yours) that’s fine.

I don’t waste my time and my chance at a budding a relationship with someone for whom I’m clinically responsible being suspicious and controlling over things like that.

PegasusReturns · 19/06/2023 23:34

If you’re behaving appropriately then you have nothing to fear from scrutiny.

Most people forgive mistakes. They won’t and should not tolerate abuse and gaslighting.

Stompythedinosaur · 19/06/2023 23:37

Yes, both nurses and social workers are regularly filmed and put on social media, often with a slanted narrative that cannot be challenged due to rules about confidentiality.

SchnitzelVonCrummsTum · 19/06/2023 23:42

Yep. As an academic, I don't particularly mind being recorded (in fact, the university encourages me to record my in-person taught content so students can revise - a really good innovation and particularly helpful to people with additional needs etc.) but students also sit there with webcams and phones, presumably creating unregulated recordings of my intellectual property for whatever additional purposes they might have. I try not to think too much about what the students recordings are being used for ...

I don't know many professions where being filmed ISN'T a big thing, tbh.

Austenland · 19/06/2023 23:43

If teachers insist on teaching dangerous ideology to children, then I’m glad they’re recorded. Teachers shouldn’t be harming children.

Lots of people are recorded at work. 🤷🏻‍♀️

MrsDoylesTea · 28/06/2023 12:25

Austenland · 19/06/2023 23:43

If teachers insist on teaching dangerous ideology to children, then I’m glad they’re recorded. Teachers shouldn’t be harming children.

Lots of people are recorded at work. 🤷🏻‍♀️

100% agree!

InTheGardenShed · 28/06/2023 12:27

Well I work in s men's prison so phones are banned..

Gizzey · 28/06/2023 12:28

Police, medical professionals (paramedics, hospital staff), shop staff, traffic wardens, taxi drivers…off the top of my head.

it’s not just teachers

ithinkifeelaliveagain · 28/06/2023 12:30

I just spent time in hospital with my dd and there was a notice in the patient info at every bed saying you weren’t allowed to film staff so it must be an issue!

Badbadbunny · 28/06/2023 12:32

I just feel sad that we had no means of recording our teachers back in the 70s when we had a few who were peddling lies and half truths to classes of teenagers. As it was, it was "he said, she said" with no proof and the teachers got away with pretty serious indoctrinations.

Not to mention the incompetents who could barely teach the stuff they were paid to do, often talking/teaching rubbish, and also sometimes wasting valuable lesson time just small talking or preaching about their own beliefs/interests. One of our English teachers could easily spend an entire lesson arguing about last night's football match with the "lads" in the class, and not doing any teaching at all!

I think I'd go the other way and say for child/teen protection, ALL classrooms should have webcams and be recorded to "police" the actions/teachings/quality of teachers.

BiscuitsandPuffin · 28/06/2023 12:32

But teachers habitually record their lessons with students for "continued development" and "reflective practice" so are you saying it should only be one-sided because someone has done something with the recording that you don't like? At one school, I was told to record lessons at least once per half term for observation purposes.

Also put a complaint in via PALS about the doctors you're unhappy with, it's a separate situation. The lawyer was just a twat.

HorseyMel · 28/06/2023 12:34

If it wasn't for all the people filming on their phones, we wouldn't have found out about so many terrible things - or the claimant would have been called a liar.

There is now so much footage of police, teachers and others abusing their positions and behaving illegally and unacceptably. Without the footage, they'd have got away with it.

Keep on filming, I say - especially as governments, councils and companies are filming you all the time - do some filming back when their staff are in the wrong.

Daffodil92 · 28/06/2023 13:13

If you’re a teacher that spouting shite like the teacher telling girls they were terrible for not referring to their classmate as a cat, I’m glad her nonsense was filmed. She belongs nowhere near a classroom.
the situations you posted are incomparable. If I go to A&E as a female and the doctor is asking about my restocked, now THAT is comparable.
Also, doctors, nurses, social workers, paramedics and midwives, police- filmed all the time.

Daffodil92 · 28/06/2023 13:13

Testicles* not restocked! Autocorrect! man needs an edit button.

ShockingLipstick · 28/06/2023 13:17

With your DH you can lodge a complaint via PALS but ask for a copy of the records before you complain.

Greenqueen40 · 28/06/2023 13:19

If I see a patient trying to film me at work (nurse) I ask them to stop and do not carry out any further interaction until they do. I'm not fair game to be broadcasted on social media and I'm as entitled to my privacy as much as the patient it. If there are concerns about practice, report it don't sneak around with cameras!

BodegaSushi · 28/06/2023 13:23

Daffodil92 · 28/06/2023 13:13

If you’re a teacher that spouting shite like the teacher telling girls they were terrible for not referring to their classmate as a cat, I’m glad her nonsense was filmed. She belongs nowhere near a classroom.
the situations you posted are incomparable. If I go to A&E as a female and the doctor is asking about my restocked, now THAT is comparable.
Also, doctors, nurses, social workers, paramedics and midwives, police- filmed all the time.

Do you have a link to this video? There are numerous reports of a child allowed to be a cat in school, but no actual proof. It's become an urban legend.

backinthebox · 28/06/2023 13:25

I work in aviation, and we are very aware that any incident that happens on a flight will probably be on YouTube before we have even set the parking brakes. Every announcement we make to apologise for lost bags, late aircraft etc, is recorded and posted on flying geek pages. Crashes and near-misses are videoed on phones by absolute idiots who don’t realise their lives are in danger and should stop recording and start moving. Passengers film everything. You can’t even go to the toilet without being filmed by a MNer and criticised for not having your tie on properly (true story, happened some years ago.)

We are also voice-recorded - every single word we say, for our entire careers - by our employers so they can work out what happened if we end up dead at work. I would say this is a whole different level of worry about why we are being recorded to what you are worrying about.

One thing I have noticed is that teachers as a professional group complain more, and are always quick to state that bad or annoying things that happen to them at work don’t happen to other professions. Well, they do, best get over it.

GHxx · 28/06/2023 13:25

Have given up teaching for this among all the other things that are involved with teaching now. Mainly the whole attitude that teachers are in the wrong about everything and if your child struggles at all or misbehaves then the best thing to do is just blame the stupid teacher! 🤷🏻‍♀️

Daffodil92 · 28/06/2023 13:28

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/teacher-cat-despicable-b2361573.html
the student argued with another pupil that you can’t identify as a cat. The teacher went on a tirade about how many genders there are, told the girls that their opinions are not allowed and called them disposable. There you are @BodegaSushi

Teacher recorded calling pupil ‘despicable’ during debate on transgender identity

TikTok recording of gender identity discussion was shared on social media

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/teacher-cat-despicable-b2361573.html

Doggymummar · 28/06/2023 13:29

All my customer interactions are recorded, it doesn't bother me, if I'm doing my job correctly why would it ?

AlisonDonut · 28/06/2023 13:30

BodegaSushi · 28/06/2023 13:23

Do you have a link to this video? There are numerous reports of a child allowed to be a cat in school, but no actual proof. It's become an urban legend.

Urban legend...it was only released last week.

CranfordScones · 28/06/2023 13:50

Teacher's aren't filmed 'for social media'. It's not like people are putting Thursday afternoon's double geography on TikTok.

A small minority of teachers do activism under the guise of teaching and get away with it because it's hard to detect and confront.

Some teachers and many other public-facing roles now have body cameras, so I'd say it redresses the balance.