Are other professions being secretly filmed for social media?

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I'm thoroughly pissed off with this culture of people assuming it's ok to film teachers and share the footage. I wonder what would have happened if I'd recorded and shared the A&E doctor (and no, it wasn't at all busy -we were the only ones there) who told my DH that he had strained a muscle lifting the shopping and to go home and watch some stuff on Youtube about careful lifting, when he presented with a very painful and swollen leg. I had told her that I was worried that he had a DVT. She scornfully dismissed me. Turns out he had an aneurysm and 2 days later was airlifted to a major hospital 200 miles away for emergency surgery. Lucky to have survived.

And the doc who asked me, on arrival in A&E with bradycardia, that if my heart stopped that night, did I want to be resuscitated? I'm basically fit and healthy, no other issues at all, active and contributing majorly to society, with so much to live for.

Then there was the lawyer who spent most of the hour I paid for to discuss family issues telling me about his family and how they'd made their money in confectionery, and that'll be basically my week's teacher's salary, thanks.

Everyone can make mistakes, do stupid things, be irritating. No-one should have to tolerate being publicly harassed and humiliated in that way, and I fear that it had become normalised, as teachers are fair game to everyone, it seems.

Thanks.

The cat story I was thinking of was the one where it's been rumoured that a student who identified as a cat was allowed a littler tray in the class to wee in, and that's the one that's been refuted as a fake story.

This is appalling, the teacher is an absolute idiot and wasn't even making the point she was trying to make. Trying to prove gender identity as valid by arguing that you can be a cat?? And then throwing in homophobia?

The only one needing to be educated in this scenario is the teacher.

A boy in my worst class filmed me once and put it on TikTok. I never saw it, but I was quite unworried as I knew I hadn't done anything out of order. He was strongly disciplined for it.

@AlisonDonut I've explained above about the story circulating for a while now about the student who identified as a cat in school. I thought that was what PPs were referring to amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/mar/29/nebraska-lawmaker-litter-boxes-claim-debunked

As an academic every single one of my taught sessions is recorded.

Yeah I agree, that story does have urban legend status but, as you said, is a different to the one where the teacher was recorded.

I think all school lessons should be recorded. Not just to ensure a high level of teaching (and prevent teachers from indoctrinating children), but for the teachers protection. I wonder how behaviour would be affected if the badly behaved kids knew their parents could view their conduct in the classroom?

None of the teachers I know would have an issue with this.

And the doc who asked me, on arrival in A&E with bradycardia, that if my heart stopped that night, did I want to be resuscitated? I'm basically fit and healthy, no other issues at all, active and contributing majorly to society, with so much to live for.

It is completely normal and entirely appropriate to ask a patient about their resuscitation wishes. That doctor knows nothing about you or your background and there are lots of reasons that a person my choose not to be resuscitated. (I am also fit and well, for example, but I wound say no to resuscitation). All patients with a potentially life threatening condition are asked the same question. It’s not meant to offend or upset you.

I am a business owner and can tell you that being forcefully filmed during an argument with a customer left me feeling shaken, vulnerable and violated. I was in a position to ask them to leave my premises and call the police when they refused, but public sector workers don't have that luxury. I still know that footage is probably on someone's phone somewhere, and you dread being the next viral.

Seriously? I always audio record (not actually video) interactions that I think might be in anyway contentious or hard for me to understand and I never ask for permission. As a HCP I take it as a given that I will be recorded as often as not. All our professional interactions should be good enough to stand up to this scrutiny shouldn't they?
Wouldn't you audio record eg if you were being given health test results so you could relisten? Or if you were called in to pastoral care cos your kid had been accused of whatever?

What an odd OP - people film/voice record others all the time for social media. There was that Starbucks one a few weeks ago, it happens to police officers frequently.

You can argue the rights and wrongs of it, but it is absolutely not something only teachers have to deal with.

Mental health nurse here- it was beginning to happen in the wards before I left to work elsewhere.

Yes, people who are abusing their position or behaving corruptly get covertly filmed by whistleblowers, investigative journalists or in extreme cases the police all the time.

There's recently been a case in this country where a child with SN took their iPad to nursery and it was on record accidentally and caught members of staff being abusive towards the little children.

Sadly many people now see no qualms with filming someone and then putting them on social media, sometimes completely out of context. Back when Snapchat was in vogue, I found myself avoiding a friend who saw nothing wrong with filming everything all day long.

Couldn't have a meal without having the camera shoved in your face, good luck if you didn't want videos of you in a bikini at the beach splashed all over her account because 'what's wrong with that', you had to be wary when talking about personal problems because she would randomly turn on the camera etc.

Dropped the friendship eventually because it was not worth the headache. I thought her behaviour was weird and problematic but it seems to be the norm now.

I can see the benefits of filming, but more often than not, it does more harm than good imo.

Do your premises have CCTV, out of interest?

If you’re behaving appropriately then you have nothing to fear from scrutiny.

One of our longest-serving and most highly-respected teachers was filmed by students (teens) behind his back (literally, he was picking something up from the floor). They then edited the video, using filters, really inappropriate music and captions to try to make him look like an idiot. It was a really horrible thing to do. His kids might well come across the video too. We're not talking about bodycam footage here.

@backinthebox
"One thing I have noticed is that teachers as a professional group complain more, and are always quick to state that bad or annoying things that happen to them at work don’t happen to other professions. Well, they do, best get over it."
Absolutely agree.
In the pandemic teachers were key workers. A lot of them then complained bitterly about doing any kind of work and showed little interest in teaching.
As a profession they do complain about how hard done by they are and do not realise most workers don't have as much annual leave etc.
Obviously there are lots of teachers doing a fantastic job and so don't have time to complain but the others ...
I suspect the teachers afraid of being filmed are not doing their job properly

Well all devices and associated equipment are banned in my workplace do is hard ( not impossible) to film anything much

No phones allowed past the door! Or iPads/laptops etc

No one’s filming teachers giving bog standard educational lessons. The only teachers I’ve seen filmed are the ones that have behaved like utter twunts and deserve to be exposed for it.

I’ve seen doctors and nurses filmed for mundane reasons where the person filming is the twunt and harassing the doctor though, when that happens twunt filmed is rounded told to fuck off on social media.

*twunt filmed is told to fuck off

Yanbu OP. I think the attitude a certain type of pupil and parents have to teachers is disgraceful.

Engineer here trying my best to fix the roads and stop river flooding in the country, routinely filmed and put on social media by the public. Most portraying us as causing havoc in their area. At the beginning of this I used to engage, but now I know we are doing all we can to minimise disruption and improve the area, so don't bother, you're never gonna get through to those people. And I've noticed recently that many of the comments on the posts are positive for us now.

For what its worth, I'm glad those girls filmed that activist teacher, what she was teaching as fact was pure agenda driven drivel.

Seriously? Everyone from the police to customer service staff gets filmed. Teachers aren't a sacred caste.

@overwork ·
Definitely happens in hospitals and nothing can be done about it, as I discovered recently when one of my staff was filmed, against their permission, and the encounter posted on TikTok (not to mention the staff member wasn't actually involved in the initial interaction with the patient).

We've had that so many times. I told one person off for that and she threatened to get her MP involved!!! Hopefully they are Tory so won't give a shit!

They would all go mad if we turned up at their doorstep or where they worked and put them on Tik Tok!

This unique victimhood mentality from teachers is really irritating. Yes. It happens to lots of people in public-facing roles unfortunately. I’m not saying it’s ok, but no, you aren’t unique.