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To think filing nails on public transport is grim?

101 replies

nailsonthebus · 19/06/2023 09:22

I can understand makeup. I can't understand why anyone would think it ok to file their nails on a bus or train. The noise. The nail dust going everywhere. Just grim. aibu?

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DappledThings · 19/06/2023 10:55

MaggieFS · 19/06/2023 10:34

Why is putting on make up offensive? It doesn't leave any filings or smells behind?

Not offensive, but I find it really irritating. I don't get it. If you're bothered about make-up get up earlier. It's a lot of movement out of the corner of my eye and irritatingly distracting.

Filing nails I would actually object to less. Clipping nails would be unpleasant but filing less so.

zingally · 19/06/2023 10:56

Completely agree.

I find any sort of personal grooming, beyond maybe running a brush through your hair quickly, or applying a bit of lippy, to be utterly grim.

Brumbies · 19/06/2023 10:57

IAmAnIdiot123 · 19/06/2023 09:36

If I broke one of my nails and had sharp bits, I would file it wherever I was.

Disgusting, no thought of other people.

TulipCat · 19/06/2023 10:59

Any kind of personal ablution on public transport is best avoided. Ditto sniffing endlessly and not using a tissue.

Branster · 19/06/2023 11:07

Sigmama · 19/06/2023 09:39

I don't like any kind of personal grooming to be honest, including make up and hair, but I know that's not a common view

I'm the same!
Hairbrushing is one of the worst too.

DrManhattan · 19/06/2023 11:12

This guy used to get on my train. He would run daily to my village and get on the train back home I presume, dripping with sweat and he absolutely stank. The train was packed too. I don't think he though he was doing anything wrong.

LittleHare · 19/06/2023 11:16

nosykids · 19/06/2023 10:46

People are so squeamish - it's just keratin.

I do agree about spray deodorant though - imposing any sort of smell/fumes on others, especially in a confined space, is really antisocial.

^^nail dust can cause Conjunctivitis, rhinitis and eczema. ....and just think, you don't know how clean that persons hands/nail actually are before they begin filing. Do you really want to risk breathing that in?

melj1213 · 19/06/2023 11:16

A broken nail that needed a quick once over to stop any jagged edge getting caught on something and causing damage is fine ... A full manicure is not appropriate for a public place

WeWereInParis · 19/06/2023 11:22

melj1213 · 19/06/2023 11:16

A broken nail that needed a quick once over to stop any jagged edge getting caught on something and causing damage is fine ... A full manicure is not appropriate for a public place

I agree with this.

Someone putting make up on doesn't bother me (as long as they don't take up loads of table room with their stuff). I don't really wear much/any make up so it's not something I do. But I don't see why anyone would have an issue with someone putting mascara on on a train. If they had powder, or a liquid foundation, I can see how there is potential for spills/mess though.

nailsonthebus · 19/06/2023 12:49

Growlybear83 · 19/06/2023 09:52

I would find someone filing their nails far less offensive than putting on their make up, but unless you're just filing down a broken nail, no form of personal grooming is necessary on public transport.

Really? But putting on makeup doesn't involve bits of your body being shed

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nailsonthebus · 19/06/2023 12:49

WeWereInParis · 19/06/2023 11:22

I agree with this.

Someone putting make up on doesn't bother me (as long as they don't take up loads of table room with their stuff). I don't really wear much/any make up so it's not something I do. But I don't see why anyone would have an issue with someone putting mascara on on a train. If they had powder, or a liquid foundation, I can see how there is potential for spills/mess though.

Fair enough. This was each and every nail

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nailsonthebus · 19/06/2023 12:54

DappledThings · 19/06/2023 10:55

Not offensive, but I find it really irritating. I don't get it. If you're bothered about make-up get up earlier. It's a lot of movement out of the corner of my eye and irritatingly distracting.

Filing nails I would actually object to less. Clipping nails would be unpleasant but filing less so.

Why? The dust gets everywhere

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Thepeopleversuswork · 19/06/2023 12:57

I have never really understood why people consider personal grooming in public so offensive and I have to say I think quite a lot of this is subconscious misogyny.

Why should discreetly applying make-up on a train be a sign of poor character or distracting? It's only distracting if you want people (and let's be honest we're talking about women here) to remain in neat, impassive and clean little boxes throughout all their interactions with no sign of divergence from this impassive and inoffensive behaviour.

Men routinely do far more irritating and offensive things on trains than applying make-up without passing comment. I had a bloke on a train this weekend fall literally fall asleep on my shoulder. I regularly sit in carriages with male mouth-breathers and manspreaders and people who reek of booze or eat smelly food or who listen to aggressively loud music or YouTube clips or shout at one another or have performative conversations with colleagues about work or sing football songs. Women (over the age of 25 anyway) rarely behave like this, they are cowed into not doing anything.

But silently applying a near-sterile and inoffensive substance that's designed to make you more personable on a train carriage is often called out as bad behaviour. I call sexism.

Flickersy · 19/06/2023 13:05

Thepeopleversuswork · 19/06/2023 12:57

I have never really understood why people consider personal grooming in public so offensive and I have to say I think quite a lot of this is subconscious misogyny.

Why should discreetly applying make-up on a train be a sign of poor character or distracting? It's only distracting if you want people (and let's be honest we're talking about women here) to remain in neat, impassive and clean little boxes throughout all their interactions with no sign of divergence from this impassive and inoffensive behaviour.

Men routinely do far more irritating and offensive things on trains than applying make-up without passing comment. I had a bloke on a train this weekend fall literally fall asleep on my shoulder. I regularly sit in carriages with male mouth-breathers and manspreaders and people who reek of booze or eat smelly food or who listen to aggressively loud music or YouTube clips or shout at one another or have performative conversations with colleagues about work or sing football songs. Women (over the age of 25 anyway) rarely behave like this, they are cowed into not doing anything.

But silently applying a near-sterile and inoffensive substance that's designed to make you more personable on a train carriage is often called out as bad behaviour. I call sexism.

ALL of those are bad behaviour though. I don't think anyone would say it's not.

In this thread we're talking about personal grooming, which belongs in the bathroom or your bedroom, not on the No. 32 bus.

Sigmama · 19/06/2023 13:08

Queefqueens, Surely deodorant is designed to be put on before the exertion?

Sigmama · 19/06/2023 13:11

Thepeopleversus, I would find a man doing personal grooming equally irksome, it makes me feel uncomfortable, maybe because it's a kind of intimate private act. I can't help how I feel

CaloundraBlues · 19/06/2023 13:18

VenusClapTrap · 19/06/2023 09:41

Not something I’ve ever done, but I don’t think it would bother me in the slightest if I saw someone else do it.

I did once attempt to paint my nails on an aeroplane, about twenty five years ago, and was swiftly told to desist by a stewardess. I was surprised, but thought ‘fair enough’.

You were surprised you were asked to stop painting your nails on a plane? Seriously? You think subjecting the rest of the plane to that stink is OK?

Morphmorph · 19/06/2023 13:20

Flickersy · 19/06/2023 09:41

Makeup is in the same category.

Public transport is not an appropriate place to be doing your personal grooming.

It's not the same though. You may dislike both but only with filing your nails is the nail dust going eberywhere.

YANBU OP

bonfirebash · 19/06/2023 13:21

I think a quick broken nail is fine, if I break my nail it's literally 2 swipes to stop it catching anything

Thepeopleversuswork · 19/06/2023 13:23

@Flickersy

ALL of those are bad behaviour though. I don't think anyone would say it's not.

But they are unpleasant to be around. Being in a carriage with pissed blokes or blokes who smell of BO or kebabs or are shouting about football is just universally unpleasant and inconsiderate. I think everyone would agree on that.

I just can't really see how someone quietly waving a mascara wand for a few seconds is in the same league.

A colleague of mine said to me the other day she thought women who applied make-up on the train were "common". I just think it's a bit snobby and dripping in suburban morality really. It doesn't really stand up to rational scrutiny.

Sigmama · 19/06/2023 13:24

Seeing makeup bring applied just gives ne the ick

DappledThings · 19/06/2023 13:39

nailsonthebus · 19/06/2023 12:54

Why? The dust gets everywhere

I can't see how it's that much. Even if it was the full ten nails then unless someone's taking them from 3 inch long talons to right down to the end of the white bit it's miniscule amounts of dust.

I would probably see someone filing their nails and assume they had some broken ones they wanted to deal with before they catch on something. Whereas applying make-up serves no such purpose and therefore irritates me.

I'm not claiming rationality here, just saying what I find annoying. In the hierarchy of annoyingness on trains I would go:

  1. playing music out loud including leaking through headphones
  2. talking on the phone for any length of time beyond about 1 minute essential conversation
  3. clacky laptop keyboards
  4. putting on make-up
  5. bags on seats/sitting on aisle seat when window seat is free

Smelly food rarely bothers me.

Hmmmbetterchangethis · 19/06/2023 13:47

You wouldn’t get that on Swiss trains would you @nailsonthebus 😉☺️

itshotontheplayground · 19/06/2023 13:54

YANBU

some people have no self respect, it's grim.

I find the make-up especially amusing. What do they do with these precious 5 minutes at most they saved by waiting to be in public transport?

What's the logic of not wanting to spend a day without make up, but being on public transport with a bare face, and a crowd of people, with high odds of one knowing you, looking at your grooming.

So many questions!

Riapia · 19/06/2023 13:57

Not at all surprising considering the class of person that uses public transport.
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