Is this a crazy idea ? (Pics attached) Husband disagrees.

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We are renovating our house and will convert the back of the garage into the kitchen as it is tiny atm. We will also know the wall between dining room and kitchen.

my question do we move the current kitchen space about 1m into the hallway or not? It is current dead space in the hallway.

I think this will make the kitchen/dining room seem more spacious. As the final dimensions of just the kitchen part will only be 2.6x4m. I think the extra bit of space as you walk in will make a difference .the halll way would still be 3m long and fit our shoe rack etc as we won’t touch the bit near the front door.

Husband thinks the hall way will be too small of we do this.

AIBU?

You haven't lost any usable space in the hallway at all. The doors are still opening where there were in the modified hallway. You can't use space in front of doorways anyway so it's not really space you've lost.

The only question with this (very good) proposed plan is the garage.

If you put your car in the garage at not going to work. If you use the garage as extra storage this plan works perfectly.

It will be a beautiful adaptation. Well done 👍🏻

Your work surfaces in the new kitchen are not to scale. You'll have much more space that that.

put in a new window and move your sink centrally in the back wall of the new part.

Otherwise your front door opens straight into dirty dishes.

We did an almost exact remodel except we built out along the whole of the back wall as our space was smaller. The hallway became shorter but we got rid of the doors into the porch/vestibule and had the joiner build shallow cupboards for shoes and we have 2 coat racks. Those who have seen before and after say the hallway looks bigger. Previously it was all wood and carpet, now it’s off white with herringbone flooring so the decor makes it more spacious.

I have a tall cupboard in the garage which keeps trainers/football boots/wellies.

Absolutely get rid of the dead bit of hall space, yoi can’t use it for anything meaningful and is absolutely pointless to keep it. Have a bigger more squared kitchen diner. All the way.

We're thinking of doing similar as currently our kitchen is a fairly small L shape around the garage, we'd like to take the back part of garage to make a large rectangular kitchen.
Anyone who has shaved off some garage space, what lengths of garage have you kept?

My house had this done when I bought it. The hall was shortened which made the kitchen longer. The hall is wide and is 2x2.5m in its smaller state. Plenty big enough for a built in cupboard for coats, and a covered rack for shoes. There is a small porch too. (great for deliveries!). Best use of space I think.

However..... I am now thinking of extending the hall back into the kitchen again in order to get a downstairs loo installed (older house). The kitchen will be knocked through to dining room to make up for the lost space that was the hall. The extended hall will have floor to ceiling cupboards for storage. Can never have enough of that!

I've enjoyed a bigger kitchen and smaller hall for many years. Go for it!

Seems fine to me, I would rather have larger living space than a. Hall that’s simply used to get to other rooms

You won’t lose anything by making the hallway smaller. The bit you’re taking out is just dead walkway space to the doors. I’d 100% do it!

Is your dh proposing that the current dining room doorway remains as the doorway into the new kitchen-diner so the hallway remains the same size?
I think your way may work better. If you've got an understairs cupboard at the moment though I'd leave that as is.

I don’t understand why he thinks you need a spacious hall. What does he want to do in it? You aren’t making any of it narrower to get through. Definitely do your plan!

I've not read all the replies so apologies if my ideas have already been made.

I would add the hall space to the kitchen and have a sliding door into the dining area.

Open up under the stairs "triangle" to have pull-out drawers for shoes etc.

We did something very similar to what you are thinking. We now have a corridor running from the back of our garage (door on back of garage for security) that runs down the side of our kitchen out to the back garden (also have bifold patio back door in the kitchen). It’s not used as a door, but we use it to dry laundry in the winter.

Check it doesn't interfere with light etc in the stairs.
I prefer yours, hall that you walk along is just more distance to walk, unless you like walking.
Regarding the porch it might be more work removing the internal doors - porches are like conservatories, they have external doors between the house, and they are not build to building regs. So you would likely have to demolish and rebuild it effectively as a front extension.
Looking at the floor plan if you can more the living room door forwards you would lose more corridor and you could open the kitchen door the other way (or move it forward to stop it swinging into the kitchen diner area)

But as mentioned by another poster - get an architect! That's their area and they can understand structure a bit and importantly budget.
If you decide what you want and go to someone who can draw plans, you'll get what you think you wanted, which is generally cheaper.
We got an architect and they did a few fiddles which we thought were strange at the time but turned out to be great ideas for the space.

I think it's a good idea as it squares off the dining room, but as long as the hall doesn't feel too cramped. Someone upthread said it doesn't matter if it's small, it's a hallway, but I think they should still feel like you can move in them. Ours is currently tiny and it's so awkward when visitors come or go home.
The only thing I would mention is have the door into the new kitchen diner opening the opposite way to what you have drawn it, otherwise it blocks off the new bit of space you have created.

We did this - took some of the hallway space for the kitchen. We did gain extra space by incorporating the porch into the hallway though. We went for a fully glazed door from the hallway into the kitchen and have a full length window next to the front door to maximise the light. We have a cupboard under the stairs which is now on the kitchen side of the door and this is where we stuff coats etc.

Meant to say ours was a very similar layout to yours with very similar plans. We didn’t get an architect in, but we did get a sort of architectural technician/planning expert that we’d been recommended who drew up some plans. Ours was a bit complicated by lots of different floor levels and things, but I’d be happy to DM you a pic of our plans if it would be helpful. Absolutely love the space now - it works so well for our family

This. Use the frontvof the garage as a utility/downstairs loo. Use deadspace as coat cupboard.

Just wondering why you aren’t going into the whole garage.

Whats the length as it doesn’t look like you ahead left enough space for a car.
A parking bay for example is 2.4m x 4.8m wide. Garages need to be bigger than that.

If you went into more of the garage you could save money by not having to extend at the rear as that will be very costly for such little gain.

In terms of the hall, yes I’d get rid of all those irritating bits of wall sticking out. Including the one next to the sink. That only needs to be a nib to take the new structural beam over. I’d move that sink too. Work you kitchen on a triangle design. Sink, fridge, cooker…don’t leave anything out on a limb.

I am the total opposite to this , I think a spacious hall really improves a house and is very useful space although obviously not at the expense of having a cramped kitchen / lounge .

I wouldn't. I don't like your proposed plan. I wouldn't want to lose part of the garage if it means you can no longer actually park a car in there.

I just viewed a house that I would have offered on except they had converted the back half of the garage into a small office/sun room and that meant the garage could no longer be used to fit an actual car in. Dealbreaker for me.

Ps
Have recently dealt with similar for client
We put utility at front of garage,
A jack and Jill shower room in the middle then a kitchen at the rear.
In between the just shower room and utility you could have a cloak area

Plus extend rear of garage further out, if youre paying to do this anyway you might as well get some benefit. Also if you try and line the wall up flush with the adjacent dining room wall at the rear you’ll end up with a horrible detail where the roof meets the wall. You need to have this rear extension either further than the adjacent wall or inbound.
Heres a pic

Ps. Obvioulsy the line between hall and cloaks shouldn’t be there. That old garage wall should go. Hence lovely big hall once you get rid of the lobby too.

Ps. If you can sacrifice a couple of kitchen units I’d have access straight into the shower room ( turning into a Jack and Jill ) through and to the cloaks and hall from the kitchen too.

Here’s a better drg as other one was crap and I seem to have loads of time on my hands now it’s started raining🤣

Why not just not put a door to the kitchen/dining area. That way you will not have the sense the hall is cramped, as you will be able to see through to the back from the front door.