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To buy my neighbours a voucher and put through letterbox?

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tertrisnblox · 15/06/2023 21:49

My neighbours are attached to us. They are renting and moved in around 3 months ago. They are two males, I've spoken to one briefly who has introduced himself, the other guy is quieter.

I have two chihuahuas, who honest to god, are really well trained except the fucking barking. It's actually a nightmare, I feel constantly on tenterhooks. They are fine as long as no one else is in their garden, but if they are, so help the neighbourhood.

So full disclosure, I can't afford a trainer at the moment, so I have been trying to train them. I find this very difficult when I just want them to shut up quietly so not to upset the neighbours.

One of the men are really friendly and always smile at them and have mentioned coming over to say hello so they're not too scared of him.

I try and only let them out when no one else is in their garden. However, tonight I didn't see the quiet neighbour sitting in his garden. Let the dogs out and they went MENTAL. The neighbour looked visibly annoyed and quite right. Until he seen me then started smiling, I apologised and he smiled and said it's fine but he was on the phone and immediately went inside and slammed the door.

I feel absolutely awful and honestly don't know what to do. I know they may smile at the dogs but in their head they'll be thinking fuck off noisy dogs (and worse I'm sure).

I have tried the spray from pets at home, I have tried positive reinforcement, I have tried distraction tactics etc.

Would I be unreasonable posting a voucher and an apology letter to the guys? Or will they be thinking, fuck the apology, get it sorted.

I hate the thought of rehoming my dogs. I utterly adore them but I honestly hate the thought of upsetting my neighbours.

What if I went over and knocked their door and asked them how much this was upsetting them with a promise to do something about it? Like they could give them sausages when they see them to make them not scared?

OP posts:
AlmostCharged · 16/06/2023 11:45

Frequency · 16/06/2023 11:17

I'm not sure why people believe Chi's are anxious dogs or difficult to train. The opposite tends to be true. They're very confident and intelligent as a rule, of course, this varies from dog to dog. They can however be stubborn and difficult to motivate but once you find a reward that works for them they are quick to learn.

The snappy, aggressive Chihuahuas you see on YouTube/dog training shows are not usually acting from a place of fear. Chi's need extensive socialising as puppies or they tend to "adopt" one family member as their own and can be standoffish with anyone else. If not properly managed this can lead to resource guarding eg. they start to "guard" their person from any perceived threat. That's not a threat as in they think their person is in danger but that another animal is getting too close to their human and they're not willing to share.

Chi's are naturally protective and prone to guarding. My guess would be that these dogs are guarding their territory or the OP.

@tertrisnblox , if you're still reading my Chi has started to guard our garden from the dogs at the back fence. It's a new behaviour and has nothing to do with any previous training she has or has not had. She's young and this is her first summer with unsupervised access to the garden.

I've been dealing with it up to now by bringing her inside and cutting off her access to the garden as soon as she starts barking which has reduced the behaviour but I had planned to spend Saturday in the garden with her actively training this. I haven't decided fully how I am going to train it yet. I have access to a lot of Absolute Dog's material so I might check out the course linked earlier in the thread as my Chi is used to this training style and responds well to it or I might get the clicker out. If you're free Saturday I'm happy to set up a what's App/Faceache/Teams group chat for the day and we can go through it together.

‘ If you're free Saturday I'm happy to set up a what's App/Faceache/Teams group chat for the day and we can go through it together.’

What a kind offer!

Wnikat · 16/06/2023 11:51

The dogs are probably picking up on your tension when the neighbours come in the garden. If they’re food oriented you could scatter feed when the neighbours come out so they associate the noises with something nice. Or give them cooked chicken (never get the neighbours to feed the dogs, creates conflict as they want the food but are scared of the source)

also a trainer would be about £100 for one session which would probably really help. Not thousands.

Anotherparkingthread · 16/06/2023 12:15

Nicecow · 16/06/2023 11:39

Yes we can tell. You're a selfish dick, which you seem to be proud of so maybe unpack that.

Yet here we are, me happy and you who sounds like you're having a miserable time. Maybe think on that.

Thelnebriati · 16/06/2023 12:28

One of the men are really friendly and always smile at them and have mentioned coming over to say hello so they're not too scared of him.

What's stopping you from doing this? Put them on their lead and take them for a walk to wear them out. Then pop in to the neighbours. Walk them around the neighbours garden.
Then you and the neighbour go to your house with the dogs still on their leads, and you all walk around your garden.
You might have to repeat a couple of times.

TiredandLate · 16/06/2023 12:55

I lived in a terrace and next door had a yappy dog that lost it's fucking mind as soon as we opened our back door, every single time for 5 years. I hated that dog and living there, I never even got to sit quietly with a book in my own garden. The owner didn't give a toss.

80sgirly · 16/06/2023 13:51

@WiddlinDiddlin Thank god! At last! Sensible advice!

OP all is not lost. Please follow the advice given by @WiddlinDiddlin

HareRaising · 16/06/2023 17:19

Frequency · 16/06/2023 08:52

What, exactly is it that is difficult to comprehend about "aversive methods are harmful and not as effective as positive training"?

Can one of the posters who keep recommending shit like spraying things or collars please help me understand what part of it they are struggling with and I will try my best to explain it.

THIS.

GoodChat · 16/06/2023 18:02

lostat · 16/06/2023 11:24

Where should they piss then? Of course I walk them. They still need to piss and shit no? Also I bought them both together (cue the sibling rivalry gang).

Walk them every 3-4 hours, surely young/healthy dogs can last that long between needing to be out.

In this heat that'd be incredibly irresponsible

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